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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:30 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8cKdDkkIYY

I...I'm so sorry, Japan.

I don't think there's a melon expensive enough to make up for this.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:32 am

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8cKdDkkIYY

I...I'm so sorry, Japan.

I don't think there's a melon expensive enough to make up for this.

No... oh god...

Why, just why?
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:36 am

Altito Asmoro wrote:
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try Uchuu Senkan Yamato to see that pride in my oppinion. it was a significant sybmol of Japanese pride in the 20th century and the reboot is that again, in my own oppinion.


What about the trends of men and women who are Otaku, who have no girl/boyfriends, and thus form relationship with the video game/anime/manga characters? Isn't it is very worrying? I mean, when I go to Japan (Amen!) I don't want to be look like an unwanted...male.

Wait, what? :blink:
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:18 am

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Konnichiwa, minna :)

I'm going to take Japanese classes, which will start next Saturday. It'll be every Saturday and it's for a year. I hope I could learn even basic Japanese from that class.

I really like Japan and its culture. First because of anime, but as time progresses I began to watch more Japanese shows (specifically comedy shows), like Gaki no Tsukai ya Arahende! and Lincoln (big Downtown fan here). So yeah, I got intrigued by Japanese and became more and more determined to study it, until I finally decided to take it up (it's also 1 HS Credit so its a win win). I have a problem memorizing kanji and kana (I know hiragana vowels though). Hopefully I could memorize it, but I still wonder how I could memorize 2,000+ characters. From there, I'd like to start learning Kansai-ben too (out of curiosity).

I plan to visit Japan too, and even stay there for long period of time.

Just sharing my thoughts, sorry for a fairly long post :p

There's only 1,945 in official use, but I heard that you can read 90% of used kanji with knowing just 1,000.

If you learn just three new kanji every day for a year, that's 1,095. If you read lots of books or have discussions with other people online through Japanese, it'll really help to ingrain them into your memory, I think.
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Postby Souseiseki » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:23 am

Arumdaum wrote:There's only 1,945 in official use, but I heard that you can read 90% of used kanji with knowing just 1,000.


2,136 these days. and an extra 861 for names.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:25 am

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Arumdaum wrote:There's only 1,945 in official use, but I heard that you can read 90% of used kanji with knowing just 1,000.


2,136 these days. and an extra 861 for names.

Wait, really? :|
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:00 am

Arumdaum wrote:
There's only 1,945 in official use, but I heard that you can read 90% of used kanji with knowing just 1,000.

If you learn just three new kanji every day for a year, that's 1,095. If you read lots of books or have discussions with other people online through Japanese, it'll really help to ingrain them into your memory, I think.

Thank you for advise :) It really helps


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Arumdaum wrote:There's only 1,945 in official use, but I heard that you can read 90% of used kanji with knowing just 1,000.


2,136 these days. and an extra 861 for names.

I also notice that they use kanji for things when it comes to name like Yamasaki. They use the character 山 to represent yama (which means mountain if I'm not mistaken)

Will it be possible to replace kanji with hiragana?
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:01 am

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:
There's only 1,945 in official use, but I heard that you can read 90% of used kanji with knowing just 1,000.

If you learn just three new kanji every day for a year, that's 1,095. If you read lots of books or have discussions with other people online through Japanese, it'll really help to ingrain them into your memory, I think.

Thank you for advise :) It really helps


Souseiseki wrote:
2,136 these days. and an extra 861 for names.

I also notice that they use kanji for things when it comes to name like Yamasaki. They use the character 山 to represent yama.

Will it be possible to replace kanji with hiragana?

You're welcome. ^w^ Yes. All kanji can be expressed through hiragana. There's actually often small hiragana next to or on top of difficult kanji called furigana.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:02 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Thank you for advise :) It really helps



I also notice that they use kanji for things when it comes to name like Yamasaki. They use the character 山 to represent yama.

Will it be possible to replace kanji with hiragana?

You're welcome. ^w^ Yes. All kanji can be expressed through hiragana. There's actually often small hiragana next to or on top of difficult kanji called furigana.

If that's the case, what's the use of kanji then if it can be replaced by hiragana?
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:03 am

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:You're welcome. ^w^ Yes. All kanji can be expressed through hiragana. There's actually often small hiragana next to or on top of difficult kanji called furigana.

If that's the case, what's the use of kanji then if it can be replaced by hiragana?

Well, knowing kanji helps shorten things, and it also clears up confusion since kanji are logograms.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:06 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:If that's the case, what's the use of kanji then if it can be replaced by hiragana?

Well, knowing kanji helps shorten things, and it also clears up confusion since kanji are logograms.

Ah I see. Thanks for help. Now I just have to worry about memorization of characters (and verb conjugation)
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:06 am

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:You're welcome. ^w^ Yes. All kanji can be expressed through hiragana. There's actually often small hiragana next to or on top of difficult kanji called furigana.

If that's the case, what's the use of kanji then if it can be replaced by hiragana?


Because mixing up kumo (蜘蛛) and kumo (雲) would cause needless distress.
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Postby Norstal » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:06 am

Arumdaum wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8cKdDkkIYY

I...I'm so sorry, Japan.

I don't think there's a melon expensive enough to make up for this.

No... oh god...

Why, just why?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_Ronin_(2013_film)
Keanu Reeves as Kai.[4] Reeves's character is half-Japanese and half-British; the character was created for the film.[5]


Yes, because Asians can't act as the lead role.
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Postby Seitonjin » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:08 am

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8cKdDkkIYY

I...I'm so sorry, Japan.

I don't think there's a melon expensive enough to make up for this.

Commence the long overdue cultural cringe from Japan...
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:08 am

Norstal wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:No... oh god...

Why, just why?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_Ronin_(2013_film)
Keanu Reeves as Kai.[4] Reeves's character is half-Japanese and half-British; the character was created for the film.[5]


Yes, because Asians can't act as the lead role.

It's pretty much the same for like every other movie...

Natives are in deep trouble, only a sympathetic white heterosexual male can save the day, who always gets the leader's daughter, who's always hot.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:08 am

Norstal wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:No... oh god...

Why, just why?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_Ronin_(2013_film)
Keanu Reeves as Kai.[4] Reeves's character is half-Japanese and half-British; the character was created for the film.[5]


Yes, because Asians can't act as the lead role.


It doesn't help that all of the Asians in the film apparently hate him because he's white, but grow to accept him because he proves to be better than them at everything, whereupon they ask him, as the noble white man, to solve all of their problems.

I'm going to make a film about the American Revolution and cast Jackie Chan as George Washington.
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Postby Norstal » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:10 am

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:
Norstal wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_Ronin_(2013_film)


Yes, because Asians can't act as the lead role.


It doesn't help that all of the Asians in the film apparently hate him because he's white, but grow to accept him because he proves to be better than them at everything, whereupon they ask him, as the noble white man, to solve all of their problems.

I'm going to make a film about the American Revolution and cast Jackie Chan as George Washington.

One of these days, man. One of these days.
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Postby Seitonjin » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:10 am

Norstal wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:No... oh god...

Why, just why?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_Ronin_(2013_film)
Keanu Reeves as Kai.[4] Reeves's character is half-Japanese and half-British; the character was created for the film.[5]


Yes, because Asians can't act as the lead role.

The film reeks of this trope
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:14 am

Seitonjin wrote:
Norstal wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_Ronin_(2013_film)


Yes, because Asians can't act as the lead role.

The film reeks of this trope

ugh i hate it
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Postby Seitonjin » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:16 am

Arumdaum wrote:

ugh i hate it

I don't hate it...

But I'm just like, "Hollywood, get your shit together... plx"
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:19 am

Out of curiosity, are there any Downtown fans here?

For those who don't know, they are a comedy duo in Japan. Members are Hamada and Matsumoto. They host Lincoln and Downtown no Gaki no Tsukai ya Arahende. Maybe some of you have seen their batsu games before.
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Postby Norstal » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:32 am

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ugh i hate it

Subverted in Neon Genesis Evangelion. Redheaded, quarter-German Asuka is touted as being a much better pilot than the full-blooded Japanese children, and yet she is often defeated before either of them and doesn't ever actually defeat a single opponent on her own.

I love this.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:38 am

Norstal wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:ugh i hate it

Subverted in Neon Genesis Evangelion. Redheaded, quarter-German Asuka is touted as being a much better pilot than the full-blooded Japanese children, and yet she is often defeated before either of them and doesn't ever actually defeat a single opponent on her own.

I love this.

Isn't she three-quarters German?

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Postby Norstal » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:41 am

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Out of curiosity, are there any Downtown fans here?

For those who don't know, they are a comedy duo in Japan. Members are Hamada and Matsumoto. They host Lincoln and Downtown no Gaki no Tsukai ya Arahende. Maybe some of you have seen their batsu games before.

Japanese humor turns me off most of the time. Their physical humor is hilarious, but they don't have things that are more substantial like British satire.

But that batsu game that sets in high school is pretty fucking funny.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:00 pm

Norstal wrote:
Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Out of curiosity, are there any Downtown fans here?

For those who don't know, they are a comedy duo in Japan. Members are Hamada and Matsumoto. They host Lincoln and Downtown no Gaki no Tsukai ya Arahende. Maybe some of you have seen their batsu games before.

Japanese humor turns me off most of the time. Their physical humor is hilarious, but they don't have things that are more substantial like British satire.

But that batsu game that sets in high school is pretty fucking funny.

Downtown is in that batsu game too. I love all batsu games, especially the No-laughing ones. In my opinion, Japanese comedy shows are one of the best.
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