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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:02 pm

oh yeah that reminds me

Arumdaum wrote:Also sorry, but the computer I'm currently on can't type in Japanese.


you can't install the IME or get JWPce or something?
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:04 pm

Souseiseki wrote:oh yeah that reminds me

Arumdaum wrote:Also sorry, but the computer I'm currently on can't type in Japanese.


you can't install the IME or get JWPce or something?

I'm currently in Korea for summer break on one of my parents' laptop, but I don't really feel like installing it on here, since I probably won't return for a really long time, and it'll just make things harder for my parents when switching the keyboard from English to Korean and back.

However, I've installed it on my desktop at home.
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Postby Norstal » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:06 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:I'm presently attempting to learn Japanese at a rather slow pace.

I never know how someone can learn Japanese on their own. Maybe I lack the discipline.
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:08 pm

Seitonjin wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Ohmygah, I have similar things happen to me for Japanese with Korean, especially the "yo" stuff at the end, since Japanese and Korean both use "yo" a lot, but for totally different reasons. :lol:

Ah, Uralic is considered a separate language family from Altaic rather than a subgroup. They're put together when you have the Ural-Altaic language family. x3

Yeah, most of the Chinese characters used have the same meaning as in China, and most have similar pronunciations, hehe.

Apparently. :shock:

;_;

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But some Ural-Altaic (Hungarian as an example) languages have similar roots. So shouldn't Uralic languages be categorized solely under Altaic?

...

Damned linguists. Too many categories. I just stick with more simple and comprehensible ones. :p

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Linguistic categorization wa too difficult desu ne. :<

Bwahahaha, excellent. The NSG Japanization Project shall soon commence.
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:10 pm

Norstal wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:I'm presently attempting to learn Japanese at a rather slow pace.

I never know how someone can learn Japanese on their own. Maybe I lack the discipline.

Haha, my current knowledge is all on my own (if you discount me asking people stuff on the Internet like here on NS). >:D

But then again, Korean and Japanese have a lot in common linguistically so yeah >.>

<.<
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Postby Southeastern Xiatao » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:10 pm

Japan is cool and would be a nice place to visit. But Japanese do that weird things that they make, like squid ink cream, kelp ice cream, there glass bottles with a marble in them. They recycle a lot of things, by the point it just something like us Americans wonder "why couldn't we think of doing that?". I mean Japan recycles a lot of things, but United States does not.
But either way Japan does have it's ups and downs like the US do. Japan is beautiful country I would really love to visit one day, and it has beautiful culture that is awesome. Anime and manga is another favorite too. :)
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:11 pm

Norstal wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:I'm presently attempting to learn Japanese at a rather slow pace.

I never know how someone can learn Japanese on their own. Maybe I lack the discipline.

Regular learning, even if it's just a small amount each time. Spending money on a method usually encourages you so you don't feel like you've wasted it.
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Postby Southeastern Xiatao » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:12 pm

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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:12 pm

Norstal wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:I'm presently attempting to learn Japanese at a rather slow pace.

I never know how someone can learn Japanese on their own. Maybe I lack the discipline.

I blame my Anime...
Arumdaum wrote:
Seitonjin wrote: :lol2:

But some Ural-Altaic (Hungarian as an example) languages have similar roots. So shouldn't Uralic languages be categorized solely under Altaic?

...

Damned linguists. Too many categories. I just stick with more simple and comprehensible ones. :p

Yush. I approve of promoting NERVUN and Dai to senseis of NSG for the matters of Japan. :3

Linguistic categorization wa too difficult desu ne. :<

Bwahahaha, excellent. The NSG Japanization Project shall soon commence.

Agreed. Linguists are a bit cray for me.

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Postby Norstal » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:13 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Norstal wrote:I never know how someone can learn Japanese on their own. Maybe I lack the discipline.

Haha, my current knowledge is all on my own (if you discount me asking people stuff on the Internet like here on NS). >:D

But then again, Korean and Japanese have a lot in common linguistically so yeah >.>

<.<

I mean, I can memorize Katagana and Hiragana if I really want to, but dat Kanji. Sometimes I wonder what my ancestors was thinking.

"Whatever just draw random lines that almost looks like mountains."

"岳 ?"

"Perfect."
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:14 pm

Also, I have an (entirely rational) hatred of Romaji.
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:15 pm

Southeastern Xiatao wrote:Japan is cool and would be a nice place to visit. But Japanese do that weird things that they make, like squid ink cream, kelp ice cream, there glass bottles with a marble in them. They recycle a lot of things, by the point it just something like us Americans wonder "why couldn't we think of doing that?". I mean Japan recycles a lot of things, but United States does not.
But either way Japan does have it's ups and downs like the US do. Japan is beautiful country I would really love to visit one day, and it has beautiful culture that is awesome. Anime and manga is another favorite too. :)

Ramune! Is it that weird, haha? :p
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:16 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Also, I have an (entirely rational) hatred of Romaji.

Why?
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:16 pm

Southeastern Xiatao wrote:Higurashi no koro

Nani?
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Postby Norstal » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:17 pm

Southeastern Xiatao wrote:Japan is cool and would be a nice place to visit. But Japanese do that weird things that they make, like squid ink cream, kelp ice cream, there glass bottles with a marble in them. They recycle a lot of things, by the point it just something like us Americans wonder "why couldn't we think of doing that?". I mean Japan recycles a lot of things, but United States does not.
But either way Japan does have it's ups and downs like the US do. Japan is beautiful country I would really love to visit one day, and it has beautiful culture that is awesome. Anime and manga is another favorite too. :)

I hate it when people say "lol Japanese people are weird."

No. They're just as weird as us. If anything we're weirder. Did anyone not heard of the whole Miley Cyrus debacle? That's weirder than what the Japanese do.
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Postby Dazchan » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:17 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Also, I have an (entirely rational) hatred of Romaji.

Why?


Speaking from my own personal experience, I find romaji a lot harder to read than Japanese script.
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:18 pm

Norstal wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Haha, my current knowledge is all on my own (if you discount me asking people stuff on the Internet like here on NS). >:D

But then again, Korean and Japanese have a lot in common linguistically so yeah >.>

<.<

I mean, I can memorize Katagana and Hiragana if I really want to, but dat Kanji. Sometimes I wonder what my ancestors was thinking.

"Whatever just draw random lines that almost looks like mountains."

"岳 ?"

"Perfect."

:lol2:

I can second this~
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:19 pm

Norstal wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Haha, my current knowledge is all on my own (if you discount me asking people stuff on the Internet like here on NS). >:D

But then again, Korean and Japanese have a lot in common linguistically so yeah >.>

<.<

I mean, I can memorize Katagana and Hiragana if I really want to, but dat Kanji. Sometimes I wonder what my ancestors was thinking.

"Whatever just draw random lines that almost looks like mountains."

"岳 ?"

"Perfect."

:lol:

Oh god, I know, haha. I think Chinese characters are really aesthetically pleasing, though. :3
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:20 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Norstal wrote:I mean, I can memorize Katagana and Hiragana if I really want to, but dat Kanji. Sometimes I wonder what my ancestors was thinking.

"Whatever just draw random lines that almost looks like mountains."

"岳 ?"

"Perfect."

:lol:

Oh god, I know, haha. I think Chinese characters are really aesthetically pleasing, though. :3

The creators had their premises on drugs.

Lines to make a mountain~ :p
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:21 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Also, I have an (entirely rational) hatred of Romaji.

Why?

Firstly, it doesn't look particularly nice.

Secondly, it inhibits reading practice:

"Oh look, some Japanese, looks like a good way to get some basic reading practice"

"Damn, looks like there's romaji beneath it. Oh well, I guess I'll just ignore it."

*5 minutes in*

"DAMN IT I CAN'T TAKE MY EYES OFF THE ROMAJI HELP ME"

So I had to put up with reading romaji for the entire first two chapters of my textbook.
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:22 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Why?

Firstly, it doesn't look particularly nice.

Secondly, it inhibits reading practice:

"Oh look, some Japanese, looks like a good way to get some basic reading practice"

"Damn, looks like there's romaji beneath it. Oh well, I guess I'll just ignore it."

*5 minutes in*

"DAMN IT I CAN'T TAKE MY EYES OFF THE ROMAJI HELP ME"

So I had to put up with reading romaji for the entire first two chapters of my textbook.

Oh god, I know, haha. I've been having similar problems while trying to learn Japanese. :lol:
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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:22 pm

Norstal wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Haha, my current knowledge is all on my own (if you discount me asking people stuff on the Internet like here on NS). >:D

But then again, Korean and Japanese have a lot in common linguistically so yeah >.>

<.<

I mean, I can memorize Katagana and Hiragana if I really want to, but dat Kanji. Sometimes I wonder what my ancestors was thinking.

"Whatever just draw random lines that almost looks like mountains."

"岳 ?"

"Perfect."


well, to be fair, you could argue that 丘 + 山 does make sense for "mount". but then you'd wonder what the guy that made 山 was smoking.
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:22 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Why?

Firstly, it doesn't look particularly nice.

Secondly, it inhibits reading practice:

"Oh look, some Japanese, looks like a good way to get some basic reading practice"

"Damn, looks like there's romaji beneath it. Oh well, I guess I'll just ignore it."

*5 minutes in*

"DAMN IT I CAN'T TAKE MY EYES OFF THE ROMAJI HELP ME"

So I had to put up with reading romaji for the entire first two chapters of my textbook.

I can say the same with pinyin readers.

Ewwwww~

But I'm no better. Sometimes I doe end up reading pinyin because I am near illiterate.
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:23 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Norstal wrote:I mean, I can memorize Katagana and Hiragana if I really want to, but dat Kanji. Sometimes I wonder what my ancestors was thinking.

"Whatever just draw random lines that almost looks like mountains."

"岳 ?"

"Perfect."


well, to be fair, you could argue that 丘 + 山 does make sense for "mount". but then you'd wonder what the guy that made 山 was smoking.

It looks like a guy falling off a horse and getting a boner.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:25 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Firstly, it doesn't look particularly nice.

Secondly, it inhibits reading practice:

"Oh look, some Japanese, looks like a good way to get some basic reading practice"

"Damn, looks like there's romaji beneath it. Oh well, I guess I'll just ignore it."

*5 minutes in*

"DAMN IT I CAN'T TAKE MY EYES OFF THE ROMAJI HELP ME"

So I had to put up with reading romaji for the entire first two chapters of my textbook.

Oh god, I know, haha. I've been having similar problems while trying to learn Japanese. :lol:

Furigana is another story, though. It's a godsend when you don't have a faintest clue what the kanji reading is.
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