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Postby Disserbia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:31 pm

Minarchist States wrote:
Disserbia wrote:There are literally not enough facepalms in the fucking world to adequately address your post.


There is no heritage, only the individual. The individual creates himself, and reason tells him to identify himself with himself.

:rofl:

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Postby Arglorand » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:34 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Minarchist States wrote:
There is no heritage, only the individual. The individual creates himself, and reason tells him to identify himself with himself.

:rofl:

If you refuse to recognize what you come from you will not understand where you are going.

I'm pretty sure both of you are right, because some people see very much importance in knowing why they exist and who their ancestors were, while to some other people it doesn't matter.

Giving fucks about heritage is not universal or necessary, but neither is it necessarily silly or detrimental.
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Postby Zottistan » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:35 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Minarchist States wrote:
There is no heritage, only the individual. The individual creates himself, and reason tells him to identify himself with himself.

:rofl:

If you refuse to recognize what you come from you will not understand where you are going.

What's this observation based on?
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Postby Disserbia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:37 pm

Zottistan wrote:
Disserbia wrote: :rofl:

If you refuse to recognize what you come from you will not understand where you are going.

What's this observation based on?

The fact that society was not born yesterday.
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Mollary wrote:Hate and alcohol can unite most people.

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:One does not simply Mossad The Assad.

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Postby Disserbia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:38 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Disserbia wrote: :rofl:

If you refuse to recognize what you come from you will not understand where you are going.

I'm pretty sure both of you are right, because some people see very much importance in knowing why they exist and who their ancestors were, while to some other people it doesn't matter.

Giving fucks about heritage is not universal or necessary, but neither is it necessarily silly or detrimental.

Fair enough
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Postby Leningrad Union » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:38 pm

Swedish, Jewish and French

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Postby Bolguria » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:40 pm

50% Bulgarian

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Postby Boer Republic of South Africa » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:41 pm

Scottish mother, Welsh father but within those I have Danish, Irish and Irish Traveller

I identity as Scottish, Welsh, Celtic and European
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Postby Cetacea » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:42 pm

Minarchist States wrote:
Disserbia wrote:There are literally not enough facepalms in the fucking world to adequately address your post.


There is no heritage, only the individual. The individual creates himself, and reason tells him to identify himself with himself.


There is no individual there is only culture, even our choices are culturally determined

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Postby Madenia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:42 pm

25% Scottish
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12.5% other random European cultures.

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Postby Zottistan » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:42 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Zottistan wrote:What's this observation based on?

The fact that society was not born yesterday.

...Go on...
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Postby Albaie » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:43 pm

My family is some weird mix of Irish/Scottish/Italian but my family aren't sure about my dads family as my great grandfather was kicked out of his family pretty much due to him being Protestant and him wanting to marry a Catholic and so except for my grandad and his dad we know little about my family.
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Postby Disserbia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:48 pm

Zottistan wrote:
Disserbia wrote:The fact that society was not born yesterday.

...Go on...

The reason the world is the way it is today is because of culture. What we eat what we wear what language we speak what think is right and wrong are all from the evolution of thought which inextricably tied to culture. Globalization to this degree is a very recent development considering human history.
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Mollary wrote:Hate and alcohol can unite most people.

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:One does not simply Mossad The Assad.

New Maldorainia wrote:Dissy likes touching my walruses.

The Blaatschapen wrote:Remember, birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you'll live.
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PC:
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Postby The Mataniya Islands » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:48 pm

Priory Academy USSR wrote:
The Mataniya Islands wrote:

It would be strange to say southern Irish to be quite honest, we prefer just Irish.
On the island of Ireland the vast majority are either Scotch-Irish (Ulster-Scots) or just Irish. I'm guessing by southern Irish you mean the latter.


By southern Irish I mean from County Cork. So southern Irish as in a person from the southern end of the Emerald Isle.

Well I'll accept that, but in future be a bit more descriptive you could have saved me a lot of my free time.. Have you any idea how long I work?! :mad: :palm:

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Postby Zottistan » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:49 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Zottistan wrote:...Go on...

The reason the world is the way it is today is because of culture. What we eat what we wear what language we speak what think is right and wrong are all from the evolution of thought which inextricably tied to culture. Globalization to this degree is a very recent development considering human history.

And a person knowing what cultures they hail from has what influence on them? People can dismiss cultures, switch cultures, mix cultures, etc.
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Postby The Mataniya Islands » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:50 pm

Albaie wrote:My family is some weird mix of Irish/Scottish/Italian but my family aren't sure about my dads family as my great grandfather was kicked out of his family pretty much due to him being Protestant and him wanting to marry a Catholic and so except for my grandad and his dad we know little about my family.

So Irish people make the mix weird do they? :o

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Postby Arglorand » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:51 pm

The Mataniya Islands wrote:
Priory Academy USSR wrote:
By southern Irish I mean from County Cork. So southern Irish as in a person from the southern end of the Emerald Isle.

Well I'll accept that, but in future be a bit more descriptive you could have saved me a lot of my free time.. Have you any idea how long I work?! :mad: :palm:

This is also another proof of what I've said before - "southern Irish" usually means someone from Cork. :P
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Postby Disserbia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:51 pm

Zottistan wrote:
Disserbia wrote:The reason the world is the way it is today is because of culture. What we eat what we wear what language we speak what think is right and wrong are all from the evolution of thought which inextricably tied to culture. Globalization to this degree is a very recent development considering human history.

And a person knowing what cultures they hail from has what influence on them?

The person I was responding to said there was no such thing as cultural heritage...what are you on about? We carry on culture by practicing it, it's a fluid thing.
You can't spell scat fetish without catfish.
Mollary wrote:Hate and alcohol can unite most people.

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:One does not simply Mossad The Assad.

New Maldorainia wrote:Dissy likes touching my walruses.

The Blaatschapen wrote:Remember, birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you'll live.
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PC:
Economic Left/Right: 3.12
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Postby Arglorand » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:52 pm

Zottistan wrote:
Disserbia wrote:The reason the world is the way it is today is because of culture. What we eat what we wear what language we speak what think is right and wrong are all from the evolution of thought which inextricably tied to culture. Globalization to this degree is a very recent development considering human history.

And a person knowing what cultures they hail from has what influence on them?

I found myself less attracted to ethnic nationalism when I learned I was almost entirely not Lithuanian.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Disserbia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:52 pm

The Mataniya Islands wrote:
Albaie wrote:My family is some weird mix of Irish/Scottish/Italian but my family aren't sure about my dads family as my great grandfather was kicked out of his family pretty much due to him being Protestant and him wanting to marry a Catholic and so except for my grandad and his dad we know little about my family.

So Irish people make the mix weird do they? :o

The only people stranger than the Irish are the English.
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The Blaatschapen wrote:Remember, birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you'll live.
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PC:
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Postby Zottistan » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:52 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Zottistan wrote:And a person knowing what cultures they hail from has what influence on them?

The person I was responding to said there was no such thing as cultural heritage...what are you on about? We carry on culture by practicing it, it's a fluid thing.

Oh, shit, misread the post you were responding to. Sorry. Now I feel stupid. :b
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Postby Disserbia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:54 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Zottistan wrote:And a person knowing what cultures they hail from has what influence on them?

I found myself less attracted to ethnic nationalism when I learned I was almost entirely not Lithuanian.

Of course not Lithuania is basically Russia anyway.
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Mollary wrote:Hate and alcohol can unite most people.

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:One does not simply Mossad The Assad.

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PC:
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Postby Minarchist States » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:54 pm

Cetacea wrote:
Minarchist States wrote:
There is no heritage, only the individual. The individual creates himself, and reason tells him to identify himself with himself.


There is no individual there is only culture, even our choices are culturally determined


Free will decides what our choices are based on. There is no culture, there's just a similar collection of traditions that vary from region to region. You wouldn't say "race" exists when so many variations and interpretations of said "race" exists. Same with culture. It's all in your head.
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Postby The Mataniya Islands » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:55 pm

Boer Republic of South Africa wrote:Scottish mother, Welsh father but within those I have Danish, Irish and Irish Traveller

I identity as Scottish, Welsh, Celtic and European

Oh I feel so bad that Irish Travellers have such a terrible reputation.

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Postby Disserbia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:55 pm

Minarchist States wrote:
Cetacea wrote:
There is no individual there is only culture, even our choices are culturally determined


Free will decides what our choices are based on. There is no culture, there's just a similar collection of traditions that vary from region to region. You wouldn't say "race" exists when so many variations and interpretations of said "race" exists. Same with culture. It's all in your head.

And the word for that is culture.
You can't spell scat fetish without catfish.
Mollary wrote:Hate and alcohol can unite most people.

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:One does not simply Mossad The Assad.

New Maldorainia wrote:Dissy likes touching my walruses.

The Blaatschapen wrote:Remember, birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you'll live.
Funniest shit on this shite
fakbuk and other random shit
PC:
Economic Left/Right: 3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00
PS:
Right: 1.45
Libertarian: 6.22
Non-interventionist: 5.82
Cultural liberal: 2.23
PT:
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In a more sane world I'd be a moderate Republican.

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