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Slafstopia
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Postby Slafstopia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:34 pm

Old Memories wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Why would a left communist have support for two authoritarian regimes in their signature?



Because i'm Anti USA Imperialism and they are trying to extent their influence through those regions .


You mean you're a non-interventionist. The USA is not imperialistic. If they were to intervene in Syria, they wouldn't annex it and proclaim it a colony of the Glorious Empire of Murrica or something.
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Old Memories
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Postby Old Memories » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:37 pm

Slafstopia wrote:
Old Memories wrote:

Because i'm Anti USA Imperialism and they are trying to extent their influence through those regions .


You mean you're a non-interventionist. The USA is not imperialistic. If they were to intervene in Syria, they wouldn't annex it and proclaim it a colony of the Glorious Empire of Murrica or something.


You only need to put friendly people in Power so no need to annexation the country .
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Postby Slafstopia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:39 pm

Old Memories wrote:
Slafstopia wrote:
You mean you're a non-interventionist. The USA is not imperialistic. If they were to intervene in Syria, they wouldn't annex it and proclaim it a colony of the Glorious Empire of Murrica or something.


You only need to put friendly people in Power so no need to annexation the country .


...What does this have to do with my post?
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Postby Threlizdun » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:44 pm

Old Memories wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Why would a left communist have support for two authoritarian regimes in their signature?



Because i'm Anti USA Imperialism and they are trying to extent their influence through those regions .
The Korean War definitely could be used as an example of America maintaing its power throughout the world, though opposition to the rule of Kim Jong Un and the Worker's Party of Korea should come naturally to anyone who values freedom and human dignity.

The Assad regime in Syria has violated international law and is massacring its citizens. Intervention is a necessity both to end the humanitarian crisis and to maintain international stability.

No, there really isn't a reason for a left communist to have support for either of thos regimes in their signature.
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Postby Old Memories » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:46 pm

Slafstopia wrote:
Old Memories wrote:
You only need to put friendly people in Power so no need to annexation the country .


...What does this have to do with my post?

Sorry misread the post and taught you said for USA to be imperialist they need to annex and proclaim a colony of USA .
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Postby Kamchastkia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:50 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Old Memories wrote:

Because i'm Anti USA Imperialism and they are trying to extent their influence through those regions .
The Korean War definitely could be used as an example of America maintaing its power throughout the world, though opposition to the rule of Kim Jong Un and the Worker's Party of Korea should come naturally to anyone who values freedom and human dignity.

The Assad regime in Syria has violated international law and is massacring its citizens. Intervention is a necessity both to end the humanitarian crisis and to maintain international stability.

No, there really isn't a reason for a left communist to have support for either of thos regimes in their signature.

There's a Syria thread, though you have no evidence to justify invasion :P.

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Postby Slafstopia » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:51 pm

Old Memories wrote:
Slafstopia wrote:
...What does this have to do with my post?

Sorry misread the post and taught you said for USA to be imperialist they need to annex and proclaim a colony of USA .


That's partially what I was saying. The problem was what you said had nothing to do with that.
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Postby Old Memories » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:54 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Old Memories wrote:

Because i'm Anti USA Imperialism and they are trying to extent their influence through those regions .
The Korean War definitely could be used as an example of America maintaing its power throughout the world, though opposition to the rule of Kim Jong Un and the Worker's Party of Korea should come naturally to anyone who values freedom and human dignity.

The Assad regime in Syria has violated international law and is massacring its citizens. Intervention is a necessity both to end the humanitarian crisis and to maintain international stability.

No, there really isn't a reason for a left communist to have support for either of thos regimes in their signature.


I don't want to turn this thread in Syrian one but why only know when Rebels are being kicked his ass by Assad those reports from Chemical weapons appear ?

I would prefer another regime in NK but the alternative right ow it's a united Capitalist Korea and that's not good .
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Postby Czervenika » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:13 pm

Old Memories wrote:
I would prefer another regime in NK but the alternative right ow it's a united Capitalist Korea and that's not good .


Tbh, I think the only way for North Korea to get a better regime now is having a whole other revolution, but of course there's no hope in hell for that to happen under the current one. I don't even consider North Korea socialist really, but a pseudo-monarchist military dictatorship. They themselves even removed references to Marx and Lenin.
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Postby Old Memories » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:30 pm

Czervenika wrote:
Old Memories wrote:
I would prefer another regime in NK but the alternative right ow it's a united Capitalist Korea and that's not good .


Tbh, I think the only way for North Korea to get a better regime now is having a whole other revolution, but of course there's no hope in hell for that to happen under the current one. I don't even consider North Korea socialist really, but a pseudo-monarchist military dictatorship. They themselves even removed references to Marx and Lenin.



I'm okay with removing references from Lenin since i don't like Bolsheviks and they removed any reference to Leninism long time a o and " remained " only " Socialist " .

Their Militarism is necessary to defend the north against Southern Aggression .
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Postby Czervenika » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:51 pm

Old Memories wrote:
Czervenika wrote:
Tbh, I think the only way for North Korea to get a better regime now is having a whole other revolution, but of course there's no hope in hell for that to happen under the current one. I don't even consider North Korea socialist really, but a pseudo-monarchist military dictatorship. They themselves even removed references to Marx and Lenin.



I'm okay with removing references from Lenin since i don't like Bolsheviks and they removed any reference to Leninism long time a o and " remained " only " Socialist " .

Their Militarism is necessary to defend the north against Southern Aggression .


Well I see one good thing about the references to Lenin being removed. It means that us Leninists no longer have to be associated with the train wreck that is North Korea. I tend to be one of the less dogmatic Leninists though, taking ideas from all over. I said in another thread that I have strong Titoist sympathies and he's usually frowned upon by more hardcore Marxist-Leninists.
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Postby Old Memories » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:59 pm

Czervenika wrote:
Old Memories wrote:

I'm okay with removing references from Lenin since i don't like Bolsheviks and they removed any reference to Leninism long time a o and " remained " only " Socialist " .

Their Militarism is necessary to defend the north against Southern Aggression .


Well I see one good thing about the references to Lenin being removed. It means that us Leninists no longer have to be associated with the train wreck that is North Korea. I tend to be one of the less dogmatic Leninists though, taking ideas from all over. I said in another thread that I have strong Titoist sympathies and he's usually frowned upon by more hardcore Marxist-Leninists.



I don't like Tito, Lenin Stalin or any other crackpot dictator who only served their interests and their party members instead of the people .

I like more Makhno , Rosa Luxembourg, Bordiga , De Léon , Vasco Gonçalves, Antoine Pannekoek and other than those guys you mentioned .
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Postby Czervenika » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:07 pm

Old Memories wrote:I don't like Tito, Lenin Stalin or any other crackpot dictator who only served their interests and their party members instead of the people .

I like more Makhno , Rosa Luxembourg, Bordiga , De Léon , Vasco Gonçalves, Antoine Pannekoek and other than those guys you mentioned .


Lmao Tito was hardly a dictator, but to each their own. I'm not fond of Stalin though, fuck that guy. My brother's family is Ukrainian, 'nuff said.
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Old Memories
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Postby Old Memories » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:13 pm

Czervenika wrote:
Old Memories wrote:I don't like Tito, Lenin Stalin or any other crackpot dictator who only served their interests and their party members instead of the people .

I like more Makhno , Rosa Luxembourg, Bordiga , De Léon , Vasco Gonçalves, Antoine Pannekoek and other than those guys you mentioned .


Lmao Tito was hardly a dictator, but to each their own. I'm not fond of Stalin though, fuck that guy. My brother's family is Ukrainian, 'nuff said.



Lenin and Bolshevik thugs crushed Makhno Free Territory so why do you support Leninism ?
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