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Zottistan
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Postby Zottistan » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:48 am

The Rebel Alliances wrote:So, the questions are: 1, Has your politics changed since being a member of the NS community? 2, If so were other NSers involved? And 3, what were the changes?

1. Yes.
2. Kind of, but I reached my own argument against my position while debating. In the end, I came up with the argument that changed my mind.
3. Right libertarian to economic right-of-center and social libertarian. That's more significant a change than it sounds.
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Magna Libero
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Postby Magna Libero » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:22 am

Before NS: Centrist-right(economically slightly right, socially more conservative), more socially conservative and authoritarian or corporatism, corporatist or authoritarian or plutocracy, authoritarian in some aspects(extreme reactionary etc), jokingly totalitarian or maybe fascist, corporatism and less authoritarian, ... , more economically right, more economically right, ~Hardcore Republican(economically extremely right, socially very right, not neoconservative, though), socially right leaning/moderate and still capitalist,semi-neoconservative, socially moderate and economically almost ultracapitalism, classical liberalism, ..., minarchism, ...
After NS: Minarchist, socially moderate libertarian, confusion
(been here for only a few months, though)

In conclusion:
When I was a kid I was centrist and somewhat socially and economically right( also Christian, still am, but less enforcive). With time I got more into authoritarianism. I became fascinated by the economical right. My ideas were shifting very frequently between semi-neoconservatism and classical liberalism.

When I was a somewhat neoconservative I read about Milton Friedman(first) and Ayn Rand. It was revolutionary and fascinating, so I started to move towards libertarianism.
I read about Rothbard. [It was at least as revolutionary as from neoconservatism to libertarianism. However, I'm not sure if I ever was an anarcho-capitalist, since I've always been very sceptic towards anarchy. It is an interesting idea, though.] So, my ideas were shifting frequently in a radical manner between neoclassical and minarchism-- maybe even anarchocapitalism.

Recently, I have broadened my views on what I think is good. I'm slightly more accepting towards welfare in a few aspects, and slightly less economically right. I don't know what I am now. Maybe I'm just vaguely a libertarian. Maybe I'm even an Objectivist, however, I know too little about it to tell if I am or not.

I don't know if I ever truly saw authoritarianism or anarchism as good things. I think they are both stupid, at least the former one, the latter is, because I don't know enough about it.
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Agritum
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Postby Agritum » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:02 am

Disserbia wrote:But honestly I think this place is a hive mind, a somewhat intelligent, enticing one.

Fuck, our cover has been blown.

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Newzie
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Postby Newzie » Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:09 am

Mine haven't changed much since 2008, and the slight changes there have been weren't caused by NS.
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Economic Left/Right: -9.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.85


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Mkuki
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Postby Mkuki » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:02 am

If anything I've become more liberal and more extremist. I identify much more with socialism now than I did before I came here in 2011.
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10

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Postby Bojikami » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:54 am

Minarchist States wrote:
Demphor wrote:Republican Party (right) -> Democratic Party (to left) -> Socialist (to the left) -> Justice Party (a little back to the right, but not a Democrat)


Undeniable proof that NSG makes you a social democrat.

I'm still a communist....
Be gay, do crime.
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Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.33

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Kaito Corporation
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Postby Kaito Corporation » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:57 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:Well, thanks to NS I'm no longer a libertarian. I'd say that's a pretty big change.

before you start celebrating, Divair, no I am still not a social democrat

*waits for hippo to call me a commie*

So... You're just a liberal then?
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Norstal
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Postby Norstal » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:57 am

Kaito Corporation wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Well, thanks to NS I'm no longer a libertarian. I'd say that's a pretty big change.

before you start celebrating, Divair, no I am still not a social democrat

*waits for hippo to call me a commie*

So... You're just a liberal then?

"No...NO! I'm not liberal! It's not like I like liberals or anything!" *Blush*
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Kaito Corporation
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Postby Kaito Corporation » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:58 am

Norstal wrote:
Kaito Corporation wrote:So... You're just a liberal then?

"No...NO! I'm not liberal! It's not like I like liberals or anything!" *Blush*

Tsundere Liberal?
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Bojikami
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Postby Bojikami » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:58 am

Kaito Corporation wrote:
Norstal wrote:"No...NO! I'm not liberal! It's not like I like liberals or anything!" *Blush*

Tsundere Liberal?

Most likely, it seems.
Be gay, do crime.
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Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.33

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Wind in the Willows
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:01 am

They haven't changed much.

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Agritum
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Postby Agritum » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:01 am

Norstal wrote:
Kaito Corporation wrote:So... You're just a liberal then?

"No...NO! I'm not liberal! It's not like I like liberals or anything!" *Blush*

Saber was conservative blue, and in fact she was a traditional values gal, and a virgin.
Rin was liberal red, and in fact she was a bisexual smarty young student.

....was Sakura a centrist, then?

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Wind in the Willows
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:03 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:Well, thanks to NS I'm no longer a libertarian. I'd say that's a pretty big change.

before you start celebrating, Divair, no I am still not a social democrat

*waits for hippo to call me a commie*


What are you now?

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Ultrapia
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Postby Ultrapia » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:04 am

Im less supportive of the British Monarchy.
19 year old. Proud to be British and from the North East. Very Stubborn Democratic Socialist, very anti-fascist, fully against the skinhead ideal, oppose Neo-Nazism, racism, religious prejudice and Totalitarianism. Believe in equality. Atheist but respect religious beliefs. Applicant for the Royal Navy. Lover of film, photography, Ancient and Military history. Big fan of Monty Python, Blackadder, Father Ted, The League of Gentlemen and South Park. Also Nostalgia Critic and Red vs Blue. Like both Classical and Heavy Metal music. Also absolutely bonkers mad.
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Cosmopolitan 38%
Secular 33%
Anarchistic 12%
Communistic 31%
Pacifist 10%
Ecological 18%
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Economics Left/Right: -4.56
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.58
Result: Democratic Socialist

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Duvniask
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Postby Duvniask » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:04 am

I went further left from being a social democrat to a socialist.

Not only, but somewhat due to some of the people on this forum.
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The Mobile Infantry
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Postby The Mobile Infantry » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:05 am

1. Yes
2. No
3. Centralist-Libertarian
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Norstal
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Postby Norstal » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:07 am

Agritum wrote:
Norstal wrote:"No...NO! I'm not liberal! It's not like I like liberals or anything!" *Blush*

Saber was conservative blue, and in fact she was a traditional values gal, and a virgin.
Rin was liberal red, and in fact she was a bisexual smarty young student.

....was Sakura a centrist, then?

Maybe. I haven't played the Heaven's Feel route, but I'm pretty sure underneath all that centrist exterior is a fucking psycho.
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Republic of Greater America
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Postby Republic of Greater America » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:08 am

LOL nope

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Starkiller101
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Postby Starkiller101 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:09 am

Ive had no politcial changes since joning nation states
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Postby Condunum » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:09 am

The Rebel Alliances wrote:So, the questions are: 1, Has your politics changed since being a member of the NS community? 2, If so were other NSers involved? And 3, what were the changes?

Well i went from that one belief to that other one, and that one guy was involved.
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Conkerials
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Postby Conkerials » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:11 am

I renounced my Christian faith, and therefore became more liberal, kinda. So there's that.

Edit: I've become more of a Progressive Conservative. Pretty big change considering I used to be a firm Conservative.
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Economic Left
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

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Agritum
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Postby Agritum » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:12 am

Norstal wrote:
Agritum wrote:Saber was conservative blue, and in fact she was a traditional values gal, and a virgin.
Rin was liberal red, and in fact she was a bisexual smarty young student.

....was Sakura a centrist, then?

Maybe. I haven't played the Heaven's Feel route, but I'm pretty sure underneath all that centrist exterior is a fucking psycho.

Indeed.

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The IASM
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Postby The IASM » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:12 am

I've become a lot more tolerant of LGBT's but not the sexuality itself.
HUN-01

20:22 Kirav Normal in Akai is nightmare fuel in the rest of the world.
11:33 Jedoria Something convoluted is going on in Akai probably.
Transoxthraxia: I'm no hentai connoisseur, but I'm pretty sure Akai's domestic politics would be like, at least top ten most fucked up hentais"
18:26 Deusaeuri Let me put it this way, you're what would happen if Lovecraft decided to write political dystopian techno thriller
20:19 Heku tits has gone mental
20:19 Jakee >gone
05:48 Malay lol akai sounds lovely this time of never


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Postby Gaveo » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:15 am

Kaito Corporation wrote:
Norstal wrote:"No...NO! I'm not liberal! It's not like I like liberals or anything!" *Blush*

Tsundere Liberal?

I am Liberal... I think.
Bruh.

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Kaito Corporation
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Postby Kaito Corporation » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:16 am

Gaveo wrote:
Kaito Corporation wrote:Tsundere Liberal?

I am Liberal... I think.

Yes. Libertarian is misnomer anyways.
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