Your Political Changes Since on NationStates

[Mefpan]

It's a mixed back from what I can tell; on one hand, I've drifted more to the left both in terms of economic matters as well as social ones, on the other, the forum has alienated the concept of democracy even more than it had already been for me mostly because I cannot stand the thought of allowing the more vocal right wingers (or rather, the ones with very conservative views on social policy) a voice in any sort of government.

Which probably makes me one of their nightmares because I obviously hate freedom.

[Regnum Dominae]

Republican Party (right) -> Democratic Party (to left) -> Socialist (to the left) -> Justice Party (a little back to the right, but not a Democrat)

Undeniable proof that NSG makes you a social democrat.

Been here for almost 7 months and almost 7k posts, not a social democrat...
It did move me quite a bit to the left though. I'm not sure if that's entirely the doing of NSG though it certainly contributed.

[Distruzio]

I first became active on the site as a Republican. Then I drifted more fringe into Southern Nationalism. Now I tow the line of Confederate sympathy (some would label it apologia) - I do not wish the Confederacy had won nor do I wish to see the South rise again. As I drifted I abandoned my egalitarianism and, with it, democracy as immoral and anti-personalist (not anti-individualist). I grew convinced that only anarchy and monarchy were moral forms of government. The rest are, as I see it, perversions of moral governance - some are relatively more moral than others, no doubt.

As I explore anarchy and my faith I came to view the State as anti-Christ at worst; the modern day tower of babel at best. A false visage of an eternal man to compete with God. But... gradually I've come to see some merit in the State apparatus. I remain cynical but I can appreciate certain aspects of statism verses anarchy.

I've ever been laissez faire but, recently, I'm coming to terms with societies desire for a lower degree of economic efficiency and individual morality and for a higher degree of welfarism - to the point that I now sympathize with distributism as the appropriate economic avenue for the State. I yet insist that an anarchy must be laissez faire but, where anarchy is undesirable, distributism is appropriate.

There have been so many NSGers who I credit as having influenced and intrigued me. Far too many to name without stroking their egos.

[Distruzio]

Undeniable proof that NSG makes you a social democrat.

Been here for almost 7 months and almost 7k posts, not a social democrat...
It did move me quite a bit to the left though. I'm not sure if that's entirely the doing of NSG though it certainly contributed.

Been here more than 4 years (under several different iterations) and still not a social democrat. Not remotely.

[Distruzio]

I stopped giving a shit.

You know... there are treatments for constipation.

[Chibi Eren and Chibi Levi]

(Pre-NS)Conservative Muslim->Maoist (big sudden change)->Titoist->Social Corporatist->Fascist->Social Democrat (Sudden change)->(Post NS)->Socialist->AnCom->Green Libertarian->Green Capitalist->AnCap->Anarchist w/o adjectives->Minarchist (phase)->Green Technocrat->Technocrat->Corporatist Technocrat (Present)

Did NS change me? Eh maybe.

[Vistulange]

I started out as a centrist and became a socialist, then a communist, then a social democrat.

[Miyager]

Since I've looked at political views on the internet I've become a centrist.

Since I've found out everybody is a clown.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Even more concerned with certain things and more proud of being communist, anti-sexist, anti-racist, anti-homophobia, among other things, yes.

Changing my place on the political spectrum, not really. And I don't believe someone would ever accomplish that, because I'm not heading closer to Stalinism in any way, I believe social democracy is too weak to control the threat capitalism is to our freedoms, dignities and existences, and I hate anarcho-capitalism and other right-leaning libertarian ideas about as much as I hate Stalinism, Fascism and social conservatism.

[Regnum Dominae]

Well, thanks to NS I'm no longer a libertarian. I'd say that's a pretty big change.

before you start celebrating, Divair, no I am still not a social democrat

*waits for hippo to call me a commie*

[Distruzio]

Well, thanks to NS I'm no longer a libertarian. I'd say that's a pretty big change.

before you start celebrating, Divair, no I am still not a social democrat

Why?

[Regnum Dominae]

Well, thanks to NS I'm no longer a libertarian. I'd say that's a pretty big change.

before you start celebrating, Divair, no I am still not a social democrat

Why?

I'm seeing the world less and less in black and white, I've also become a lot more cynical regarding humanity in general (I could say that about humans in General as well) and this is pulling me farther and farther away from libertarian idealism, and I've also become much more interventionist, and my strong support for meaningful international governance and universal human rights and liberties is conflicting more and more with the isolationism/non interventionism of libertarian ideology.

I'm still somewhere in that bottom right quadrant, but much more moderate, and "libertarian" isn't the right label anymore.

[Divair]

Well, thanks to NS I'm no longer a libertarian. I'd say that's a pretty big change.

before you start celebrating, Divair, no I am still not a social democrat

[Distruzio]

Why?

I'm seeing the world less and less in black and white, I've also become a lot more cynical regarding humanity in general (I could say that about humans in General as well) and this is pulling me farther and farther away from libertarian idealism, and I've also become much more interventionist, and my strong support for meaningful international governance and universal human rights and liberties is conflicting more and more with the isolationism/non interventionism of libertarian ideology.

I'm still somewhere in that bottom right quadrant, but much more moderate, and "libertarian" isn't the right label anymore.

Ah.. makes sense.

Also, as a libertarian... I agree with you about the border situation. If the State asserts ownership rights of the territory over which it administers then it behooves the State to ensure the integrity, economic viability, and value of that territory. I don't let just anyone on my lawn so why the fuck should the State do any less?

[Regnum Dominae]

Well, thanks to NS I'm no longer a libertarian. I'd say that's a pretty big change.

before you start celebrating, Divair, no I am still not a social democrat

[Mollary]

I was a Social Democrat. Then, since I started using nationstates, I went through a Communist phase. Then I was a Democratic Socialist for a while. Now I swing backwards and forwards between Socialism and Social Democracy. Most of my political changes have come through debating with my family because they don't get as angry about stuff as you guys.

[Divair]

All will fall before the social democrat hivemind.

[Napkiraly]

All will fall before the social democrat hivemind.

The Brood is growing is it?

[Regnum Dominae]

(Image)

All will fall before the social democrat hivemind.

Lolno.

All will fall before the globalist NWO Illimunati lizard (atheist-)Jewish neoliberal hivemind.

[Britannic Realms]

I used to be a Thatcherite, then I was a fascist, then I was a socialist and now I'm a kind of cross between a High Tory and a democratic socialist. NationStates did have some influence in pushing me back into conservative territory.

[Divair]

All will fall before the social democrat hivemind.

The Brood is growing is it?

Always.

[Disserbia]

All will fall before the social democrat hivemind.

You've all made me much more conservative honestly

[Regnum Dominae]

All will fall before the social democrat hivemind.

You've all made me much more conservative honestly

Economic or socially?

[Republic of Trollandia]

Funny Story right:
1 year ago, I considered myself a harsh Stalinist with a mere love for his country. I thought that Stalinism benefits everyone, including the working class, the peasants, and middle class. But however, after hearing about the extermination of the Kulaks, I changed my views to National Syndicalism. I actually was a half trade unionist after I declared that I hated communism. All of this happened when I was on Nationstates.
So in the end, change from the far left to the far right.

[Disserbia]

You've all made me much more conservative honestly

Economic or socially?

Both. Maybe I've just aged a bit, but honestly I think this place is a hive mind, a somewhat intelligent, enticing one, but none the less one all the same and if an intelligent person stays here long enough they'll realize it. I live in one of the most liberal parts of one of the most liberal states in the country and these people are more open to intelligent conversation about politics with people of differing viewpoints (me) than 99% of the people on here. That's why I stopped coming here for a while, it's pretty fucking pathetic honestly. I don't care if that's not what you want to hear, it's the truth.