NM Supreme Court Forces Christian to Take Gay Wedding Photos

[Ethel mermania]

Considering that more states have not legalized gay marriage than legalized it.... the discriminators are in the majority. Indicating that the discriminating businesses have a better chance at staying afloat than the non discriminating businesses.

New Mexico doesn't have same-sex marriage, yet their Supreme Court still ruled that discrimination based on sexual orientation is illegal under their law. I'm sure there will be some more states which follow suit with such discrimination protections and rulings.

new mexican law says you cant discriminate based on sexual orientation. according ot the article in the OP it was not a gay marraige but a commitment cerimony. Can't say no because they are gay.

[Auralia]

It might not be a bad idea to introduce some sort of "alternative service requirement" to the public accommodation provisions of anti-discrimination law. If it can be established that the person being discriminated against has access to an equivalent service, the discrimination claim fails.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

This is disgusting. Might as well force a Jew to judge a non Kosher hot dog eating contest. This court should be ashamed of themselves.

Or force a Christian fifty years ago to let "one of those blacks" into his whites only establishment?

The Bible condemns Homosexuality. It says nothing of black and white segregation.

[Neo Rome Republic]

It is true it's anti-Christian.

Again, where does the Bible say "Thou shalt not photograph gay weddings"?

Edit:

(Apologies if you're a Christian and I just called Christianity a religion.
I will say "replace 'religion' with 'opposed to the teachings of Jesus Christ and his father.")

Christianity is a religion. What on Earth are you apologizing for?

Christians like to call it ''a personal relationship''.

[Ethel mermania]

why not, the gay photographer can not discriminate on the basis of religion either. they may try to make the case of hostile work enviorment....

I'm sure a hostile work environment and a history of discrimination directed at gay people would be a valid reason to not work for them.

The weird thing is people who talk to the phelps, when they are not out being lunatics, say they are nice sweet people. As long as the enviorment is not hostile during the engagement, i think the courts would side with the phelps. (again we are way in the world of fantasy land in this speculation, but what the hell).

[The TransPecos]

Stop with the "liberal" bullshit.

It's fucking stupid as hell, and it's annoying enough that people keep repeating that idiotic shit.

I am just advocating the rights of every person on Earths. Unfortunately, some people who claim to love freedom are in fact destroying it. The verdicts is stupid since it violates human rights.

The verdict isn't stupid, it is just a common definition application of the wording of the law. The court didn't write, pass, or sign the law. If you have an issue with the court decision, blame the legislators who passed it and the Governor who signed it.

Gotta say it again, another "shining" example of the Law of Unintended Consequences...

[Lunalia]

why not, the gay photographer can not discriminate on the basis of religion either. they may try to make the case of hostile work enviorment....

I'm sure a hostile work environment and a history of discrimination directed at gay people would be a valid reason to not work for them.

This. This is why discrimination needs to be stepped on harshly in all forms. It's working to make the future a better place. It isn't stupid.

[Mavorpen]

Or force a Christian fifty years ago to let "one of those blacks" into his whites only establishment?

The Bible condemns Homosexuality. It says nothing of black and white segregation.

Many whites in the 1960s would disagree.

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.

[Neo Arcad]

I mean, it'd be like ordering a Muslim to eat pork, or telling a Lutheran to worship the Pope.

What the fuck?

Hyperbole. I couldn't think of any decent examples off the top of my head...

[Ethel mermania]

I am just advocating the rights of every person on Earths. Unfortunately, some people who claim to love freedom are in fact destroying it. The verdicts is stupid since it violates human rights.

The verdict isn't stupid, it is just a common definition application of the wording of the law. The court didn't write, pass, or sign the law. If you have an issue with the court decision, blame the legislators who passed it and the Governor who signed it.

Gotta say it again, another "shining" example of the Law of Unintended Consequences...

i think the law worked as advertised here. Law says can not discriminate because of sexual orientation, and they were not photographing the commitment cerimony because the couple was gay.

[Neo Arcad]

The Bible condemns Homosexuality. It says nothing of black and white segregation.

Many whites in the 1960s would disagree.

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.

*raises hand*

Why are Malaysians suddenly their own race? Did you get that from a "Join the Malaysian Federation" propaganda pamphlet?

[Wilgrove]

Should a business owner have the right to discriminate against customers?
I think that's the real question here.

I think any business owner should have the right to refuse service to anyone they want to for whatever reason. It may be bad business practices to discriminate base on your own bigoted belief, but that's your right as an American and as a business owner.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Should a business owner have the right to discriminate against customers?
I think that's the real question here.

I think any business owner should have the right to refuse service to anyone they want to for whatever reason. It may be bad business practices to discriminate base on your own bigoted belief, but that's your right as an American and as a business owner.

Not according to the law.

[Ethel mermania]

Should a business owner have the right to discriminate against customers?
I think that's the real question here.

I think any business owner should have the right to refuse service to anyone they want to for whatever reason. It may be bad business practices to discriminate base on your own bigoted belief, but that's your right as an American and as a business owner.

american civil rights laws of the past 60 years disagree with you.

[Lunalia]

Many whites in the 1960s would disagree.

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.

*raises hand*

Why are Malaysians suddenly their own race? Did you get that from a "Join the Malaysian Federation" propaganda pamphlet?

Ask the people who said Malaysians are their own race fifty years ago, not the person quoting them.

[Ethel mermania]

*raises hand*

Why are Malaysians suddenly their own race? Did you get that from a "Join the Malaysian Federation" propaganda pamphlet?

Ask the people who said Malaysians are their own race fifty years ago, not the person quoting them.

until we see another source i am going with the pamphlet as well.

[Mavorpen]

Many whites in the 1960s would disagree.

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.

*raises hand*

Why are Malaysians suddenly their own race? Did you get that from a "Join the Malaysian Federation" propaganda pamphlet?

No, it was Loving v. Virginia.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

The entire government is a leftist disaster. Another prime example of this is the Army forcing Chaplains to marry gay couples.

[Australasia]

The entire government is a leftist disaster. Another prime example of this is the Army forcing Chaplains to marry gay couples.

On the wrong side of history are you?

[Spoder]

Ask the people who said Malaysians are their own race fifty years ago, not the person quoting them.

until we see another source i am going with the pamphlet as well.

Heh. I know what his source was. Last night, he was in bed with somebody's mother, and when her eyes glazed over and her face went pale, she whispered "Malaysians are their own race" into his ear.

[Neo Arcad]

*raises hand*

Why are Malaysians suddenly their own race? Did you get that from a "Join the Malaysian Federation" propaganda pamphlet?

No, it was Loving v. Virginia.

Oh. Well, in that case, what the actual fuck?

[Lunalia]

until we see another source i am going with the pamphlet as well.

Heh. I know what his source was. Last night, he was in bed with somebody's mother, and when her eyes glazed over and her face went pale, she whispered "Malaysians are their own race" into his ear.

That is an INTERESTING reason for Loving v. Virginia's argument!

[Mavorpen]

The entire government is a leftist disaster. Another prime example of this is the Army forcing Chaplains to marry gay couples.

So we shouldn't force them to marry interracial couples?

[Mavorpen]

No, it was Loving v. Virginia.

Oh. Well, in that case, what the actual fuck?

You can argue the Bible supports you on almost anything. It's partially why I can't take "cuz teh bible sayz so" as a legitimate reason for discrimination.

[Ethel mermania]

*raises hand*

Why are Malaysians suddenly their own race? Did you get that from a "Join the Malaysian Federation" propaganda pamphlet?

No, it was Loving v. Virginia.

apparently it was the decision that loving overturned, and the weirder thing is that judge was suspending the 1 year prison sentenance given to the lovings, in exchange for them moving out of the state

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/f ... oving.html

edit: that said i still prefer the pamphlet answer.