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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:40 pm

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Regnum, we live in occupied territory. :eek:

I just hope Michigan is given to Canada at this point. I'd welcome the Canadian overlords.

On one condition.

You must declare love for Canadian maple syrup, which is the only true maple syrup, for life.

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:40 pm

Bendira wrote:The whole country is a constitution free zone with the NSA spy programs, its just that in this particular program they actually have jackbooted fascists on the ground making it more blatant

Honey please stop making such absurd claims, you water it down when shit like this actually DOES happen.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:40 pm

Luziyca wrote::palm: I thought it'd be assigning certain parts of the country to be free speech zones and the rest wouldn't be. As expected, it is far worse. At least I do not live within that zone, because I happen to live in the Dominion of Canada.

Wisconsin9 wrote:Wisconsin, too. Hell, just give them the whole Great Lakes region.

Or at least Alaska.

If you're not taking me, you're not taking anybody. Besides, most of the people who live in Alaska are right-wingers.
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Postby Libertarian California » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:40 pm

Saint Kitten wrote:It must be weird living in San Antonio it must be like, am I the free zone or not? And I think I live just on the line. FML


You're only half-free :p
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Postby Libertarian California » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:41 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Luziyca wrote::palm: I thought it'd be assigning certain parts of the country to be free speech zones and the rest wouldn't be. As expected, it is far worse. At least I do not live within that zone, because I happen to live in the Dominion of Canada.


Or at least Alaska.

If you're not taking me, you're not taking anybody. Besides, most of the people who live in Alaska are right-wingers.


If Alaska can't be an American state, it should be independent.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:41 pm

Luziyca wrote::palm: I thought it'd be assigning certain parts of the country to be free speech zones and the rest wouldn't be. As expected, it is far worse. At least I do not live within that zone, because I happen to live in the Dominion of Canada.

Wisconsin9 wrote:Wisconsin, too. Hell, just give them the whole Great Lakes region.

Or at least Alaska.

O Canada! The True North strong and free! :p
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:41 pm

Saint Kitten wrote:It must be weird living in San Antonio it must be like, am I the free zone or not? And I think I live just on the line. FML

I live just barely in the orange zone. If I went one or two counties west, I'd be in the clear.
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:42 pm

Awe man, I just realised this sucks for my mum and step dad. They're moving to a place within this zone.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:42 pm

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As much as it pains me to say it, evil communist Canada is better than this shit.

What is happening to my country!?!?!?!

At this rate, I'd give them 20 years before it goes the way of the USSR, or 25 before it goes the way of the DPRK.

Are you finally admitting that Best Korea is not a perfect poverty-free hunger-free land of unicorns and rainbows?
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Postby Libertarian California » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:42 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
As much as it pains me to say it, evil communist Canada is better than this shit.

What is happening to my country!?!?!?!

At this rate, I'd give them 20 years before it goes the way of the USSR, or 25 before it goes the way of the DPRK.


Whelp, better get packing. Canada and Australia are my top 2 destinations. I wish to stay in the Anglosphere.


Okay, obviously, I'm exaggerating. But this fucking sucks.

Land of the free my ass.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:43 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:I just hope Michigan is given to Canada at this point. I'd welcome the Canadian overlords.

On one condition.

You must declare love for Canadian maple syrup, which is the only true maple syrup, for life.

"I hereby declare love for Canadian maple syrup and do solemnly declare that it shall be considered by myself as the only true maple syrup for the entirety of my existence." :lol:
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Postby Gaveo » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:43 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Luziyca wrote:At this rate, I'd give them 20 years before it goes the way of the USSR, or 25 before it goes the way of the DPRK.


Whelp, better get packing. Canada and Australia are my top 2 destinations. I wish to stay in the Anglosphere.

But Chile is nice this time of year. :c

If you like snow and hot chocolate...
Bruh.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:43 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Luziyca wrote:At this rate, I'd give them 20 years before it goes the way of the USSR, or 25 before it goes the way of the DPRK.


Whelp, better get packing. Canada and Australia are my top 2 destinations. I wish to stay in the Anglosphere.


Okay, obviously, I'm exaggerating. But this fucking sucks.

Land of the free my ass.

If you're actually leaving, Canada is much more free than Australia; especially considering that Australia censors the internet.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:44 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:I just hope Michigan is given to Canada at this point. I'd welcome the Canadian overlords.

On one condition.

You must declare love for Canadian maple syrup, which is the only true maple syrup, for life.

I hereby declare my love for Canadian maple syrup, the only true maple syrup, for the entirety of my life.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:44 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:On one condition.

You must declare love for Canadian maple syrup, which is the only true maple syrup, for life.

"I hereby declare love for Canadian maple syrup and do solemnly declare that it shall be considered by myself as the only true maple syrup for the entirety of my existence." :lol:

Good, you're in.

Sorry about that declaration by the way. Standard protocol. :p


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Napkiraly wrote:On one condition.

You must declare love for Canadian maple syrup, which is the only true maple syrup, for life.

I hereby declare my love for Canadian maple syrup, the only true maple syrup, for the entirety of my life.
You're in as well. Welcome to Canada, eh comrade!
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:45 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Whelp, better get packing. Canada and Australia are my top 2 destinations. I wish to stay in the Anglosphere.


Okay, obviously, I'm exaggerating. But this fucking sucks.

Land of the free my ass.

If you're actually leaving, Canada is much more free than Australia; especially considering that Australia censors the internet.

I'll go wherever I don't have to shell out 200 dollars for a video game.
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:45 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Luziyca wrote::palm: I thought it'd be assigning certain parts of the country to be free speech zones and the rest wouldn't be. As expected, it is far worse. At least I do not live within that zone, because I happen to live in the Dominion of Canada.


Or at least Alaska.

If you're not taking me, you're not taking anybody. Besides, most of the people who live in Alaska are right-wingers.

Unfortunately. However, I wish to open the Canadian border to ANYONE AND EVERYONE.

Libertarian California wrote:
Luziyca wrote:At this rate, I'd give them 20 years before it goes the way of the USSR, or 25 before it goes the way of the DPRK.


Whelp, better get packing. Canada and Australia are my top 2 destinations. I wish to stay in the Anglosphere.

Move to Canada. As long as you stay clear of Ottawa or Calgary-Southwest, you're in the clear. :P

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Luziyca wrote:At this rate, I'd give them 20 years before it goes the way of the USSR, or 25 before it goes the way of the DPRK.

Are you finally admitting that Best Korea is not a perfect poverty-free hunger-free land of unicorns and rainbows?

Dude, I've abandoned that shtick months ago.

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Luziyca wrote::palm: I thought it'd be assigning certain parts of the country to be free speech zones and the rest wouldn't be. As expected, it is far worse. At least I do not live within that zone, because I happen to live in the Dominion of Canada.


Or at least Alaska.

O Canada! The True North strong and free! :p

I got to agree. Now if only if we can get the Tories out...
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:46 pm

From the HuffPo article:
After scanning their passports and looking at a computer screen in the booth, the agent says to the driver, as Matthews tells the story:

“Sir, turn off the vehicle, hand me the key, and step out of the car.”

He hears the snap of handcuffs going around his friend’s wrists. Disoriented, he turns around and sees uniformed men kneeling behind their car, firearms drawn.

“To my disbelief, situated behind us are agents, pointing their guns.”

The CBP officer asks Matthews and the remaining passengers to get out of the car and escorts them to a waiting room. Thirty minutes later, he, too, is handcuffed and in a cell. Forty-five minutes after that another homeland security agent brings him into a room with no chairs.

Finally, in a third room, the interrogation begins. Although they question Matthews about his religious beliefs and various Islamic issues, the two agents are “nice.” They ask him: Where’d you go? What kind of law do you practice? He tells them that a former law professor was presenting a paper at the annual conference, whose purpose is to revive “Islamic traditions of education, tolerance, and introspection.” They ask if he’s received military training abroad. This, he tells me, “stood out as one of their more bizarre questions.” When the CBP lets him and his friends go, he still thinks it was a mistake.

Oh dear, what are we coming to?
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Postby Bendira » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:46 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Bendira wrote:The whole country is a constitution free zone with the NSA spy programs, its just that in this particular program they actually have jackbooted fascists on the ground making it more blatant

I agree that this is worrying, but "jackbooted fascists"? Really?


When does it became appropriate to call a fascist a fascist?

They erode our civil liberties a little at a time, so calling them fascists is considered hyperbolic because it is only a minor change from the fascism we were living under yesterday.

Imagine what it is going to be like in 50 years? Unmanned drones in the skies, cameras, checkpoints, internet spying plus whatever other evil shit the government comes up with between now and then.

If you are too scared of being considered "radical" for calling these fascists exactly what they are, then you probably deserve to live in a fascist hellhole. Its people like you who the fascists count on to curl up into the fetal position.
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Postby Saint Kitten » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:48 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Saint Kitten wrote:It must be weird living in San Antonio it must be like, am I the free zone or not? And I think I live just on the line. FML

Are you in the north or south of the San Antonio area?


Southern
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:48 pm

Saint Kitten wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Are you in the north or south of the San Antonio area?


Southern

In that case the map makes me think you are in the CFZ.
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Postby Bendira » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:48 pm

Genivaria wrote:Honey

I really doubt you are using this affectionately, in which case you are an asshole.

please stop making such absurd claims, you water it down when shit like this actually DOES happen.

Like it is right now
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Postby Libertarian California » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:49 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Whelp, better get packing. Canada and Australia are my top 2 destinations. I wish to stay in the Anglosphere.


Okay, obviously, I'm exaggerating. But this fucking sucks.

Land of the free my ass.

If you're actually leaving, Canada is much more free than Australia; especially considering that Australia censors the internet.


No, I'm not actually leaving. I was born American, and I'll die American.

I'm just disgusted with the government.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:49 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:If you're actually leaving, Canada is much more free than Australia; especially considering that Australia censors the internet.

I'll go wherever I don't have to shell out 200 dollars for a video game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Australia
Yeah, not Australia.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:50 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:If you're actually leaving, Canada is much more free than Australia; especially considering that Australia censors the internet.

I'm just disgusted with the government.

This^.
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