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Postby Belligerent Alcoholics » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:21 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:No, I don't get it, because it's 100% pure horseshit.

Not really. It's not "Hehe, OH HAHA", but it's a decent joke. Not any better or worse than, "Racists are insecure with black penis". Along the same lines.
But feel free to continue to express your insecurity.

The problem's not insecurity on my end. It's willful ignorance on yours. But whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:22 pm

Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Not really. It's not "Hehe, OH HAHA", but it's a decent joke. Not any better or worse than, "Racists are insecure with black penis". Along the same lines.
But feel free to continue to express your insecurity.

The problem's not insecurity on my end. It's willful ignorance on yours.

How am I ignorant? I was just explaining the joke to you, not forcing you to recognize it as Gospel Reality.
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Postby Bottle » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:23 pm

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Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:Someone disagrees with you; therefore, if this someone is a guy, he must have a small penis. Riiight... :roll:

Insecurity is the joke, here. MRA's are insecure with equality.

Gotta admit, though, I'm not in love with the idea of equating insecurity with small external genitalia. (I mean, my clit doesn't exactly hang past my knees, here.)

Thing is, the equating of one's penis with one's masculinity is a big part of our fucked up gender culture. So it makes sense that many of us automatically conceptualize male insecurity as a guy feeling like he hasn't got enough in his pants. But I don't think it's a good idea to reinforce that notion by basically agreeing that "insecure male" = "has a tiny wee-wee." That's just using the flip side of the MRA's own argument, that strength and dominance are intrinsically tied to ownership of a penis.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:25 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Insecurity is the joke, here. MRA's are insecure with equality.

Gotta admit, though, I'm not in love with the idea of equating insecurity with small external genitalia. (I mean, my clit doesn't exactly hang past my knees, here.)

Thing is, the equating of one's penis with one's masculinity is a big part of our fucked up gender culture. So it makes sense that many of us automatically conceptualize male insecurity as a guy feeling like he hasn't got enough in his pants. But I don't think it's a good idea to reinforce that notion by basically agreeing that "insecure male" = "has a tiny wee-wee." That's just using the flip side of the MRA's own argument, that strength and dominance are intrinsically tied to ownership of a penis.

This is true. I appreciate you pointing it out.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:26 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Insecurity is the joke, here. MRA's are insecure with equality.

Gotta admit, though, I'm not in love with the idea of equating insecurity with small external genitalia. (I mean, my clit doesn't exactly hang past my knees, here.)

Thing is, the equating of one's penis with one's masculinity is a big part of our fucked up gender culture. So it makes sense that many of us automatically conceptualize male insecurity as a guy feeling like he hasn't got enough in his pants. But I don't think it's a good idea to reinforce that notion by basically agreeing that "insecure male" = "has a tiny wee-wee." That's just using the flip side of the MRA's own argument, that strength and dominance are intrinsically tied to ownership of a penis.



Precisely. Did people seriously think I was being unironic about that?

I mean, "ironically posting things", I know, but still. Come on.

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Postby Rawrckia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:27 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Insecurity is the joke, here. MRA's are insecure with equality. Having to have power is often compensation for something.
Ya get it?

No, I don't get it, because it's 100% pure horseshit.


Actually MRAs are campaigning for equal treatment of males. They would be perfectly secure with equality if it were offered to them.
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Postby Sfantapa » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:28 pm

I am a homosexual as well and I completely agree with you. "If you are not girly and not "good" looking all the time then you are not gay" is pretty much how almost everyone sees it, and that my friends is sad.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:28 pm

Rawrckia wrote:
Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:No, I don't get it, because it's 100% pure horseshit.


Actually MRAs are campaigning for equal treatment of males. They would be perfectly secure with equality if it were offered to them.


Best joke I've heard all day.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:29 pm

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Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:No, I don't get it, because it's 100% pure horseshit.


Actually MRAs are campaigning for equal treatment of males. They would be perfectly secure with equality if it were offered to them.


No, they aren't. Men already have privileged treatment. They're fighting to maintain that while using "equality" as a fig leaf. It's an insult the the collective intelligence of those who actually study these things for them to do this.

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Postby Dalmacie » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:29 pm

Rawrckia wrote:
Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:No, I don't get it, because it's 100% pure horseshit.


Actually MRAs are campaigning for equal treatment of males. They would be perfectly secure with equality if it were offered to them.

Oh?

When was "equality" taken away from men?

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:30 pm

Sfantapa wrote:I am a homosexual as well and I completely agree with you. "If you are not girly and not "good" looking all the time then you are not gay" is pretty much how almost everyone sees it, and that my friends is sad.


That's widely considered an outdated stereotype, and it's an insult to straight people to think that we're incapable of seeing diversity in the community.

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Postby Faolinn » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:30 pm

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Rawrckia wrote:
Actually MRAs are campaigning for equal treatment of males. They would be perfectly secure with equality if it were offered to them.


Best joke I've heard all day.

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Postby Bottle » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:30 pm

Sfantapa wrote:I am a homosexual as well and I completely agree with you. "If you are not girly and not "good" looking all the time then you are not gay" is pretty much how almost everyone sees it, and that my friends is sad.

Psst:

There's female gay people.
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Postby Poopookakapeepeeshire » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:30 pm

i still remember the time when everyone hated gays ...oh wait that was today...fuck

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Postby Choronzon » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:30 pm

Dalmacie wrote:
Rawrckia wrote:
Actually MRAs are campaigning for equal treatment of males. They would be perfectly secure with equality if it were offered to them.

Oh?

When was "equality" taken away from men?

When we stopped treating women like property.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:31 pm

Bottle wrote:
Sfantapa wrote:I am a homosexual as well and I completely agree with you. "If you are not girly and not "good" looking all the time then you are not gay" is pretty much how almost everyone sees it, and that my friends is sad.

Psst:

There's female gay people.


If you don't look like either a fat man or a porn star, then you're not a lesbian. It's that simple.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:31 pm

Poopookakapeepeeshire wrote:i still remember the time when everyone hated gays ...oh wait that was today...fuck


Everyone?

Don't pretend to speak for me.

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Postby Norstal » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:32 pm

Drakes wrote:I'm a homosexual, and I'm proud of it. My friends and family know it.

What bothers me is 'gayness'. Gay is a word that straight bigots conjured up that's now entered the mainstream. But I'd like to talk more specifically about 'gay culture': the incredibly offensive stereotype that associates men like me with the effeminate, pink-loving, women's underwear-donning attention seekers that are ruining the LGBT movement and turning away moderates!

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:32 pm

Rawrckia wrote:
Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:No, I don't get it, because it's 100% pure horseshit.


Actually MRAs are campaigning for equal treatment of males. They would be perfectly secure with equality if it were offered to them.

MRA's area backlash against feminism, they were created in hostile response to it. Men run everything in this country; where they are victimized, they are victimized by patriarchy. Anyway, this is off topic. If you want to start the ziollionth on MRA's, feel free. I'll be there.
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Postby San Benedict e San Francesco » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:32 pm

Poopookakapeepeeshire wrote:i still remember the time when everyone hated gays ...oh wait that was today...fuck


I take particular exception to that.

It's just the homophobes. Believe it or not, some of us straight people actually like people for who they are, and not for who they want to get with.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:33 pm

San Benedict e San Francesco wrote:
Poopookakapeepeeshire wrote:i still remember the time when everyone hated gays ...oh wait that was today...fuck


I take particular exception to that.

It's just the homophobes. Believe it or not, some of us straight people actually like people for who they are, and not for who they want to get with.


Funny, because the actual allies aren't the ones making a big deal about their straightness.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:33 pm

Dalmacie wrote:
Rawrckia wrote:
Actually MRAs are campaigning for equal treatment of males. They would be perfectly secure with equality if it were offered to them.

Oh?

When was "equality" taken away from men?

Same time it was taken way from whites.

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Postby Bottle » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:34 pm

Dalmacie wrote:
Rawrckia wrote:
Actually MRAs are campaigning for equal treatment of males. They would be perfectly secure with equality if it were offered to them.

Oh?

When was "equality" taken away from men?

More importantly:

By whom?

The governments that are overwhelmingly dominated by men?

The media, also overwhelmingly owned and operated by men?

The ultra-rich businessmen who are very disproportionately likely to be men?

The major industries and corporations of the world, all of which are owned and run predominantly (and in some cases exclusively) by men?
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Postby Poopookakapeepeeshire » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:34 pm

Poopookakapeepeeshire wrote:i still remember the time when everyone hated gays ...oh wait that was today...fuck

alas ... haters still be hatin ...woe

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Postby San Benedict e San Francesco » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:34 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
San Benedict e San Francesco wrote:
I take particular exception to that.

It's just the homophobes. Believe it or not, some of us straight people actually like people for who they are, and not for who they want to get with.


Funny, because the actual allies aren't the ones making a big deal about their straightness.


Oh, sorry. I forgot I'm not allowed to be offended by broad-brush generalizations.
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