The Main Cause of School Shootings

[H N Fiddlebottoms VIII]

It's entirely possible to survive a gunshot. Once the bullet is past your skin it's basically impossible to predict what'll happen next, but it's most likely that you'll die.

People do it in movies all the time. Ach, just a flesh wound!

So even if your idea wasn't very crazy, it just wouldn't work without killing people.

It's more than crazy, it is bat fuck crazy. That's why it will work.

ignore neo art, his inability to sympathize with others might have been the cause of the suicide.

Oh, he can sympathize with anyone whom he desperately imagines might show him her tits. Parthenon, just TG Neo Art a couple boring glamor shots of some chick and spam a few threads with tedious flirting, then he'll be your internet white knight forevers.

[Czardas]

I say this in the nicest and least flaming way possible,

Ur doin it rong.

but go fuck yourself you hypocritical bastard. You go and whine to moderation when I say even the most polite of comments about suicide because you "KNEW SOMEONE" yet here you are calling the execution of my fucking coworker a god damned lie.

Aww, someone got a nerve pinched. If you don't like your honesty called into question, maybe you should stop being, you know, so blatantly dishonest all the time.

Oh well, anyone got an "INTERNET: SERIOUS BUSINESS!" lolcat we can throw up here? Seem appropriate. That, and maybe a blanket, it's obviously past someone's bedtime.

Neo Art, your posts in response to Parthenon do qualify as baiting -- especially this one, which on its own would not be actionable.

However, in light of your stated intent (as which this qualifies in my opinion) to take a prior mod ruling in bad faith, I must consider this "rules lawyering." Abusing mod rulings in order to bait others is actionable. You too are banned for three days.

[Kryozerkia]

Oh wow, an autopsy report, that MUST validate that this happened to someone you know. You'll forgive me for not going too much into this with you though. A dear friend of mine died recently, and I'm too distraught over it. Perhaps you read about it.

By the way Parthy, thank you for reminding me to update my signature. How'd that email turn out? I regret that Michael Savage still hasn't sued me yet.

Firstly, you have an ignore button, use it! Secondly, *** warned for flamebaiting. ***

I say this in the nicest and least flaming way possible, go fuck yourself. You make me sick.

You are also well advised to make use of the ignore button. Also, *** warned for flaming. ***

[Super Chickens]

Well I vote for other...

like reading all the postings here on this subject...

But that could be mental illness...

Actually I propose that every person should be required to carry a rifle, not a handgun or shotgun, but a rifle. Preferably a bolt action one, not semi -automatic or automatic either.

Why?

If you saw a person walking along minding their own business you might be tempted to rob/hurt/bully/etc. them for whatever reason you decide. If you were carrying a gun then you would be more tempted to do the same, but if that person was carrying a rifle in plain sight just like you, you just might think first. Granted you may just shoot them down in cold blood, but at that same time there could be someone putting their rifle sight on you as well as someone putting their rifle sight on them, etc., etc., etc.

Well hang in there people...

12-21-2012 is coming...

So go eat a pickle

[Bunyippie]

1st, where is this ignore button I keep hearign about?
2nd. if you remove guns, it will not solve the problem because, well, if someone is dead set on killing a lot of people, they will just find a different way to do it/make their own.

[Czardas]

1st, where is this ignore button I keep hearign about?

User CP > Foe List

[Bunyippie]

1st, where is this ignore button I keep hearign about?

User CP > Foe List

ah, thank you sir

[EvilDarkMagicians]

1st, where is this ignore button I keep hearign about?
2nd. if you remove guns, it will not solve the problem because, well, if someone is dead set on killing a lot of people, they will just find a different way to do it/make their own.

It would remove the problem of gun shooting which this discussion is about.

[Angleter]

Mental illnesses.

NOT video games or lack of gun control (although here we banned guns as a knee-jerk response to a school shooting). Also, maybe if the school was armed or the parents kept the gun safe like they're meant to...

[Bunyippie]

1st, where is this ignore button I keep hearign about?
2nd. if you remove guns, it will not solve the problem because, well, if someone is dead set on killing a lot of people, they will just find a different way to do it/make their own.

It would remove the problem of gun shooting which this discussion is about.

we would just have bombings instead.

[Ascon]

Out of most School Shootings in America, which do you think is involved the most.

Reloading.

[Bunyippie]

Out of most School Shootings in America, which do you think is involved the most.

Reloading.

no, trigger pulling

[EvilDarkMagicians]

1st, where is this ignore button I keep hearign about?
2nd. if you remove guns, it will not solve the problem because, well, if someone is dead set on killing a lot of people, they will just find a different way to do it/make their own.

It would remove the problem of gun shooting which this discussion is about.

we would just have bombings instead.

Bombs =/= Guns....

[Ascon]

Out of most School Shootings in America, which do you think is involved the most.

Reloading.

no, trigger pulling

I suppose that might depend on if the weapon is semi or fully auto.

[Bunyippie]

Out of most School Shootings in America, which do you think is involved the most.

Reloading.

no, trigger pulling

I suppose that might depend on if the weapon is semi or fully auto.

techinally, a school shooting is a shot being fired in a school, ergo, one trigger pull= school shooting

[JuNii]

In 2006, Guns Murdered:

18 in Austria
27 in Australia
59 in England & Wales
60 in Spain
190 in Canada
194 in Germany
10,177 in the United States

God Bless America

all those poor murdered guns...

[Ascon]

Out of most School Shootings in America, which do you think is involved the most.

Reloading.

no, trigger pulling

I suppose that might depend on if the weapon is semi or fully auto.

techinally, a school shooting is a shot being fired in a school, ergo, one trigger pull= school shooting

Indeed, but if it's fully auto you get a lot of mileage for that one trigger pull...

[RAHIT RA]

surely you would have to be mentally ill to bring a gun into a school and intend to murder people

[Skeptikosia]

surely you would have to be mentally ill to bring a gun into a school and intend to murder people

No, you don't.

It's not a pathology, it's bad behavior.

[Station 12]

In 2006, Guns Murdered:

18 in Austria
27 in Australia
59 in England & Wales
60 in Spain
190 in Canada
194 in Germany
10,177 in the United States

God Bless America

all those poor murdered guns...

Sorry, already made that joke.

Tell me what logical conclusion any sane person could come to that would mean that the best course of action is to shoot everyone in your school.

[Kryozerkia]

ignore neo art, his inability to sympathize with others might have been the cause of the suicide.

Oh, he can sympathize with anyone whom he desperately imagines might show him her tits. Parthenon, just TG Neo Art a couple boring glamor shots of some chick and spam a few threads with tedious flirting, then he'll be your internet white knight forevers.

Bunyippie, *** warned for flamebaiting. ***

H N Fiddlebottoms VIII, you ought to know better than to pile on to any attack. Knock it off.

[Hairless Kitten II]

All those warnings & bans. And the blame is not for the mods.

People, can you stay focused on a decent debate?

There's no need to write stuff as 'go fuck yourself'.

Maybe you don't like the opinion of another, fight it with all means, but exclude the poster in tackling arguments.

Thanks.

[Bottle]

Second, Bullying is a main cause, because it goes like this
Student A, usally a jock or other popular kid, bullies student B. Student B tells a teacher. Student B gets told to suck it up and/or nothing happens. Student A bullies student B worse. Student B, so angry that the school is allowing the bullying, walks into school with a shotgun and blows away as many people as he can, because they all laughed when he was being bullied.

Except that the demographics of students who are most likely to be bullied and harassed at school also happen to be the demographics that are LEAST likely to be school shooters.

Females are more likely to be victimized by bullies than males (Seals and Young, 2003, Adolescence), yet 99% of school shootings are committed by young males. Indeed, in the last 50 years I could only find record of two school shootings committed by females, and one of those was a college incident.

Gay students are disproportionately likely to be the target of bullying and harassment at school, yet I couldn't find a single example of a school shooting by a gay student. All the search permutations I tried returned results in which gay students were TARGETED by school shooters.

If bullying were the root cause, then why wouldn't the most bullied demographic groups be represented among the ranks of school shooters?

[Overleef]

Except that the demographics of students who are most likely to be bullied and harassed at school also happen to be the demographics that are LEAST likely to be school shooters.

Females are more likely to be victimized by bullies than males (Seals and Young, 2003, Adolescence), yet 99% of school shootings are committed by young males. Indeed, in the last 50 years I could only find record of two school shootings committed by females, and one of those was a college incident.

Gay students are disproportionately likely to be the target of bullying and harassment at school, yet I couldn't find a single example of a school shooting by a gay student. All the search permutations I tried returned results in which gay students were TARGETED by school shooters.

If bullying were the root cause, then why wouldn't the most bullied demographic groups be represented among the ranks of school shooters?

Because the strata you cite are victims with different coping mechanisms. That doesn't mean that the straight males aren't responding to bullying with their preferred method.

See, when girls are bullied, they respond by internalizing the experience via emotional catharsis and processing the experience through dialogue with their peer group and eating nutter butters.

Gay kids deal with bullying by watching Project Runway and realizing that the mouthy jerk with the tatoo on his neck who keeps using all the muslin might win the competition, but he'll always be a lonely bitter cockadoody. Gay kids don't have to kill people others to deal, because, like Tim Gunn, they make it work.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

Except that the demographics of students who are most likely to be bullied and harassed at school also happen to be the demographics that are LEAST likely to be school shooters.

Females are more likely to be victimized by bullies than males (Seals and Young, 2003, Adolescence), yet 99% of school shootings are committed by young males. Indeed, in the last 50 years I could only find record of two school shootings committed by females, and one of those was a college incident.

Gay students are disproportionately likely to be the target of bullying and harassment at school, yet I couldn't find a single example of a school shooting by a gay student. All the search permutations I tried returned results in which gay students were TARGETED by school shooters.

If bullying were the root cause, then why wouldn't the most bullied demographic groups be represented among the ranks of school shooters?

Because the strata you cite are victims with different coping mechanisms. That doesn't mean that the straight males aren't responding to bullying with their preferred method.

See, when girls are bullied, they respond by internalizing the experience via emotional catharsis and processing the experience through dialogue with their peer group and eating nutter butters.

Gay kids deal with bullying by watching Project Runway and realizing that the mouthy jerk with the tatoo on his neck who keeps using all the muslin might win the competition, but he'll always be a lonely bitter cockadoody. Gay kids don't have to kill people others to deal, because, like Tim Gunn, they make it work.

What absurd stereotypical generalisations...?