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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:52 am

Czechanada wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:We could make do with Japan.


Except Japan makes games mostly for consoles, silly.

It would be the Nitendo-Sony console war, without a "PC Master Race".

Blood would be spilled.
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Postby Vorshka » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:52 am

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Cool, I guess my European History Teacher was wrong.


Any European History teacher who failed to mention Solidarity when talking about the end of Communism in Poland should probably be fired.


This.

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Postby Horusland » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:53 am

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Except Japan makes games mostly for consoles, silly.


Indie games come from India, silly. We have nothing to fear.

Minecraft is Indie, it's from Sweden.
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Postby Chile and Argentina » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:53 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:The world would be united under the glorious British Empire.


That seems kind of about right, actually. Britain would've still owned the thirteen colonies, which they could've used to get tons more resources to conquer things much faster gather more men and build more ships for their navy. They would've crushed Napoleon quickly with these extra resources. France and Britain would go to war (duh) and Britain would dominate. All in all though, the world would be more... British. Also, modern democracy that America emphasized even though it is a constitutional republic would cease to exist. Everyone would have to deal with kings and eventually tyrants ruling over them which would result in revolution and war practically everywhere. Oh yeah, and Russia and Britain would've gone to war over Canada. It becomes difficult to tell from there, other than without the Monroe Doctrine, other European powers such as Spain would've probably taken back its colonies in South America.

Now, to all of the ant-Americans out there, if it weren't for use existing, YOU would have to deal with fascism, and the Muslims that want to kill us would go for YOU instead, but worse, due to the big bang theory not being thought of until much later, making religion more powerful. (It was an American who thought of the expanding universe theory, which was the basis for the big bang theory. Since most of you are European, you shouldn't insult America without looking in a mirror first, especially if you are in the European Union. I hope you know what I mean.

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Postby Oneracon » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:53 am

Czechanada wrote:I don't think I could cope.

The United States is the inventor and major producer of computer games.


Actually the majority of computer games are produced in North America, Japan, or Western Europe.

I think that we can make due.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:53 am

HorusLand wrote:
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Indie games come from India, silly. We have nothing to fear.

Minecraft is Indie, it's from Sweden.
Logic failed.

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Postby Chile and Argentina » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:54 am

BTW, I'm an American from Mississippi.

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Postby Layfet » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:54 am

Merriwhether wrote:Who knows how much the existence of America influenced history before World War I, so for all we know if Britain continued to control America, World War I would've never happened.

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Postby Vorshka » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:54 am

Layfet wrote:
Merriwhether wrote:Who knows how much the existence of America influenced history before World War I, so for all we know if Britain continued to control America, World War I would've never happened.

Quick Lesson on US History-

American Revolution bankrupts France and influences the French to start the French Revolution leading to the Rise of Napoleon.

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WWI-Joins the Allies in the Last Year, ends the stalemate and ends the war

WWII-Joins the Allies in the 3rd Year, ends the stalemate and ends the war

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The 5th is WRONG WRONG WRONG!

The US DIDNT stop communism.
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Postby The Marxist State » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:55 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Czechanada wrote:I don't think I could cope.

The United States is the inventor and major producer of computer games.

We could make do with Japan.


B...bu...but my favorite game company is American. :(

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Postby Layfet » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:55 am

Vorshka wrote:
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Any European History teacher who failed to mention Solidarity when talking about the end of Communism in Poland should probably be fired.


This.

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my teacher did mention Solidarity, but only breifly.
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Postby Benomia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:55 am

Layfet wrote:1800s-Nothing but Growth


The War of 1812 and The Civil War are considered "nothing but growth"?
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Postby Horusland » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:56 am

Layfet wrote:Cold War-Stopping Communism

Stopping Communism? BWAHAHA

Where did you get that insane idea from?
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Postby Vorshka » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:56 am

Layfet wrote:
Vorshka wrote:
This.

Are you Pole like me by the way?


my teacher did mention Solidarity, but only breifly.



Dude,the Solidarity played the MAJOR part.She should be fired.
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Postby The Marxist State » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:56 am

Vorshka wrote:This.

Are you Pole like me by the way?


No, I'm 'merican. I am a 1/4th Polish though.
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Postby Layfet » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:56 am

Vorshka wrote:
Layfet wrote:Quick Lesson on US History-

American Revolution bankrupts France and influences the French to start the French Revolution leading to the Rise of Napoleon.

1800s-Nothing but Growth

WWI-Joins the Allies in the Last Year, ends the stalemate and ends the war

WWII-Joins the Allies in the 3rd Year, ends the stalemate and ends the war

Cold War-Stopping Communism


The 5th is WRONG WRONG WRONG!

The US DIDNT stop communism.


We helped contain it, especially in Europe, with the Marshall Plan.
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Postby The Whispers » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:56 am

Layfet wrote:
Merriwhether wrote:Who knows how much the existence of America influenced history before World War I, so for all we know if Britain continued to control America, World War I would've never happened.

Quick Lesson on US History-

American Revolution bankrupts France and influences the French to start the French Revolution leading to the Rise of Napoleon.

1800s-Nothing but Growth

No, this is simply untrue. In addition to the Civil War ruining many of the southern states that would have to be reintegrated for decades, there were genuine economic crashes in the US in the 19th century.

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:56 am

Layfet wrote:
Vorshka wrote:
This.

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my teacher did mention Solidarity, but only breifly.

Briefly? Solidarity was the main cause of the collapse of Communism in Poland. I cannot overstate this.
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Postby Ainin » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:57 am

Layfet wrote:
Merriwhether wrote:Who knows how much the existence of America influenced history before World War I, so for all we know if Britain continued to control America, World War I would've never happened.

Quick Lesson on US History-

American Revolution bankrupts France and influences the French to start the French Revolution leading to the Rise of Napoleon.

1800s-Nothing but Growth

WWI-Joins the Allies in the Last Year, ends the stalemate and ends the war

WWII-Joins the Allies in the 3rd Year, ends the stalemate and ends the war

Cold War-Stopping Communism

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Postby Vorshka » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:57 am

Layfet wrote:
Vorshka wrote:
The 5th is WRONG WRONG WRONG!

The US DIDNT stop communism.


We helped contain it, especially in Europe, with the Marshall Plan.


No,Greece DIDNT recieve the proper marshall plan and still,didnt turn communist,although it experienced a civil war.........

By the way,in Western Europe the communist resistance movements during WWII recieved government positions after the war,as a sign of respect.
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Postby Kalosia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:57 am

Oceasia wrote:
Kalosia wrote:Good to know there are other Indonesians here on NS. Selamat malam.

However, it would be unlikely we'd be here if that 30 September event didn't happen in 1965. We'd be lead by a communist dictatorship, likely, and they'd restrict internet access. And as we know, the US is anti-communist, especially back then, yes?

Other than that, the entire world would use the metric system and American football wouldn't even be a thing. Seriously, it seems the entire world knows what it is yet only 1 nation actually plays it.

LOL. Selamat malam. I found at least 2 other Indonesians here on NS. And i think you're right about that, we would probably continue the war with Malaysia, and we would probably still lose, or we might win, but i want to know what Britain will do if that happens...

And perhaps the Philippines would be an extra province, or two? Along with Palau, meaning we'd have at least 36 provinces now.

Also, with Britain being the only English-speaking superpower, we wouldn't have those American English vs British English arguments.
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Postby Benomia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:57 am

Layfet wrote:
Vorshka wrote:
The 5th is WRONG WRONG WRONG!

The US DIDNT stop communism.


We helped contain it, especially in Europe, with the Marshall Plan.


We went to war in Russia against the communist and lost.

We went to war in Vietnam against the communists and lost.

We went to war in Korea against the communists and tied.


We, overall, did jack shit to stop communism.
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Postby Chile and Argentina » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:58 am

Vorshka wrote:
Layfet wrote:Quick Lesson on US History-

American Revolution bankrupts France and influences the French to start the French Revolution leading to the Rise of Napoleon.

1800s-Nothing but Growth

WWI-Joins the Allies in the Last Year, ends the stalemate and ends the war

WWII-Joins the Allies in the 3rd Year, ends the stalemate and ends the war

Cold War-Stopping Communism


The 5th is WRONG WRONG WRONG!

The US DIDNT stop communism.


No, not entirely, but it did help stop Communism from spreading much much further. In fact, the Soviets probably would've invaded Europe with no other superpowers to keep it in check. You're Polish right, YOU would be under a Communist government right now.

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Postby The Marxist State » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:58 am

Benomia wrote:
Layfet wrote:1800s-Nothing but Growth


The War of 1812 and The Civil War are considered "nothing but growth"?


If you think of the results. The War of 1812 was the first time we proved that we could be a military power. The Civil War paved the way for modern federalism by settling the "should states or the federal government rule" question, and a strong federal government helped the U.S. grow more powerful.
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Postby Czechanada » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:58 am

Kalosia wrote:
Oceasia wrote:LOL. Selamat malam. I found at least 2 other Indonesians here on NS. And i think you're right about that, we would probably continue the war with Malaysia, and we would probably still lose, or we might win, but i want to know what Britain will do if that happens...

And perhaps the Philippines would be an extra province, or two? Along with Palau, meaning we'd have at least 36 provinces now.

Also, with Britain being the only English-speaking superpower, we wouldn't have those American English vs British English arguments.


American English would still exist, it just wouldn't necessarily be called American English.
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