A World Without the United States?

[Ainin]

Funny thing is its not making the world better when your the reason the problem is there in the first place, You are just cleaning up your own bloody mess that the world would be better without.

And yet the US debts itself, borrowing money to aid other nations, cleaning other nation's messes.

Most of those messes... that were caused by the US in the first place.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

The world would be united under the glorious British Empire.

Is that really what you think?

Obviously, it's the only logical conclusion you can draw from this.

[Slafstopia]

there would be such a thing as French America

Lolwut.

1. That's French Canada.
2. That's part of the British Commonwealth.

I mean, like, there'd be a sorta French Commonwealth, with the west coast of America. Just my dumb thoughts though.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

What? The emoticon?

No,the thing you said.

Don't worry, you may be spared when the British Empire rises once more.

[Napkiraly]

Less land, more ocean.

[Vorshka]

The round talks were proposed by the pope,but the main force behind Poland becoming a democracy again was Solidarność and the people's support.

Cool, I guess my European History Teacher was wrong.

Tell that to your history teacher and pwn him infront of the class

[Layfet]

Both, you say? Well, if the United States would cease to exist right now, then a worldwide PANIC would start, because everyone would think that the aliens would take them, too. I mean, how would you react if an entire country just disappeared?

But if it never existed, then a lot of good inventions wouldn't have existed, either. And then, World War Two would have ended very differently, and Germany would be a world power now. And you know what that would mean.

So, as much as the Americans are very narcissist, and think that they are the most important, we very much needed the United States in our world.

Also, I'm from Romania.

I have to agree, with all what you said, I do think my country is most important, but I do have a large amount of patriotism for it, But I can name nations that are slightly under it, in my opinion, like Japan, South Korea, the Philipeans, Austraila, Kuwait, UK, Germany, France, Poland, Egypt, etc...

[Vandelstein]

Without the US, there would just be a bigger Canada. Or Mexico. Whichever moves first. Haha

[Layfet]

Cool, I guess my European History Teacher was wrong.

Tell that to your history teacher and pwn him infront of the class

pown her, and that was last year, heck it was even Advanced Placement European History.

[Ainin]

Lolwut.

1. That's French Canada.
2. That's part of the British Commonwealth.

I mean, like, there'd be a sorta French Commonwealth, with the west coast of America. Just my dumb thoughts though.

Let's look at what French America is, eh?

French America (French: Amérique française) is the French-speaking community of people and their diaspora, notably those tracing back origins to New France, the early French colonization of the Americas. Quebec is the center of the community and is the birthplace of French America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_America

[Vorshka]

Both, you say? Well, if the United States would cease to exist right now, then a worldwide PANIC would start, because everyone would think that the aliens would take them, too. I mean, how would you react if an entire country just disappeared?

But if it never existed, then a lot of good inventions wouldn't have existed, either. And then, World War Two would have ended very differently, and Germany would be a world power now. And you know what that would mean.

So, as much as the Americans are very narcissist, and think that they are the most important, we very much needed the United States in our world.

Also, I'm from Romania.

I have to agree, with all what you said, I do think my country is most important, but I do have a large amount of patriotism for it, But I can name nations that are slightly under it, in my opinion, like Japan, South Korea, the Philipeans, Austraila, Kuwait, UK, Germany, France, Poland, Egypt, etc...

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[Ainin]

Less land, more ocean.

Canada would be an island. Cool.

[Layfet]

And yet the US debts itself, borrowing money to aid other nations, cleaning other nation's messes.

Most of those messes... that were caused by the US in the first place.

Give me an example.

[Azaflaza]

Well it would lead to the question of who would rise from ww2 as superpower? Could be Britain and its empire which may have survived without competition from America or perhaps whatever country filled America's gap in producing weaponry. In fact given that America created the atomic bomb, without that hitler may have got them first which would no doubt change the outcome of ww2.

[Disserbia]

Is that really what you think?

Obviously, it's the only logical conclusion you can draw from this.

Hey you never know I've seen people say crazier things completely serious.

[Malvoro]

Even if we are discussing only the nation being non-existent, and the landmass remains, there is simply too much room for conjecture to appropriately explore the concept. Most of you are fixating on the 20th century, mentioning the world wars, war on terrorism, etc., while failing to brig up all of the activity the USA was involved in during the late 18th and 19th centuries. How would world affairs have played out if the USA had not been involved? Further, for all of you non-Americans that love to hate the USA, think about the ugliness of your histories (and don't try to play holy here) and be honest about how your nation would have interacted during the 1800's without USA to work with/against. No, this is the stuff of a far more scholarly treatise than most people can muster.

[Vorshka]

Well it would lead to the question of who would rise from ww2 as superpower? Could be Britain and its empire which may have survived without competition from America or perhaps whatever country filled America's gap in producing weaponry. In fact given that America created the atomic bomb, without that hitler may have got them first which would no doubt change the outcome of ww2.

WITHOUT THE US THERE WOULD BE NO WW2!

Germany WOULD win WWI one way or another.

[Oceasia]

Even if we are discussing only the nation being non-existent, and the landmass remains, there is simply too much room for conjecture to appropriately explore the concept. Most of you are fixating on the 20th century, mentioning the world wars, war on terrorism, etc., while failing to brig up all of the activity the USA was involved in during the late 18th and 19th centuries. How would world affairs have played out if the USA had not been involved? Further, for all of you non-Americans that love to hate the USA, think about the ugliness of your histories (and don't try to play holy here) and be honest about how your nation would have interacted during the 1800's without USA to work with/against. No, this is the stuff of a far more scholarly treatise than most people can muster.

What?

[Vorshka]

Even if we are discussing only the nation being non-existent, and the landmass remains, there is simply too much room for conjecture to appropriately explore the concept. Most of you are fixating on the 20th century, mentioning the world wars, war on terrorism, etc., while failing to brig up all of the activity the USA was involved in during the late 18th and 19th centuries. How would world affairs have played out if the USA had not been involved? Further, for all of you non-Americans that love to hate the USA, think about the ugliness of your histories (and don't try to play holy here) and be honest about how your nation would have interacted during the 1800's without USA to work with/against. No, this is the stuff of a far more scholarly treatise than most people can muster.

My nation didnt exist in 1800

[The Serbian Empire]

Without the US, there would just be a bigger Canada. Or Mexico. Whichever moves first. Haha

More Canadian hockey, eh? Sounds good to me.

[Oceasia]

Even if we are discussing only the nation being non-existent, and the landmass remains, there is simply too much room for conjecture to appropriately explore the concept. Most of you are fixating on the 20th century, mentioning the world wars, war on terrorism, etc., while failing to brig up all of the activity the USA was involved in during the late 18th and 19th centuries. How would world affairs have played out if the USA had not been involved? Further, for all of you non-Americans that love to hate the USA, think about the ugliness of your histories (and don't try to play holy here) and be honest about how your nation would have interacted during the 1800's without USA to work with/against. No, this is the stuff of a far more scholarly treatise than most people can muster.

My country is colonized in the 1800s, and i don't remember any interactions between them and the US

[Hollorous]

The world would keep on trucking, just like it did when there was no Roman Empire, Holy Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, and Soviet Union.

That said, there would be a lot of stray arms floating around. And the entire world economy would go bananas.

[Benomia]

Life would be so much better.

Like waking up every day and being reminded that you are the CEO of Microsoft.

[Urenus]

Which Stereotypes? =P

The one on the War on Terror (what you think on that), after all, half the men going to the Mid-East is passing through Germany, and the one about the world would be better without them.

Sooo...
Sorry if I offended you.
But in my opinion, the war on terror is perfectly useless. I know the events of September 11, I know it is really bad what happened there and I understand that America seeks or sought revenge. But as part of that War, the States are way too overbearing. They take themselfs the right to watch the worlds internet activity, for some time, a law was discussed, through which America could have been allowed to arrest any suspicious person anywhere(if I recall correctly, tell me If i'm wrong), and most arrested terrorists in Guantanamo have never seen a judge in their life, which is the right of every citizen on American Ground. That's my problem with the War on terror. All that would not happen if America didn't exist. But in general, I have nothing against America or it's citizens. It's just these few points that bother me. You know, Benjamin Franklin said a great sentence. "A community, which sacrifices its freedom for the sake of security, doesn't deserve any of them".

Well, without them, there would have been probably only one world war,

Whoa. Full stop. How does that make sense exactly?

Well, your bankers caused the economic crisis of 1929, which led to great poverty and inflation here in germany. I think, if the Nazis hadn't had the chance to prove they are better than the current system, they wouldn't have been elected and Hitler would never have gotten into power. The crisis, against which the current system had no real solution, was the weak spot of it. the people elected the Nazis and the rest should be known to you.

[Slafstopia]

1. That's French Canada.
2. That's part of the British Commonwealth.

I mean, like, there'd be a sorta French Commonwealth, with the west coast of America. Just my dumb thoughts though.

Let's look at what French America is, eh?

French America (French: Amérique française) is the French-speaking community of people and their diaspora, notably those tracing back origins to New France, the early French colonization of the Americas. Quebec is the center of the community and is the birthplace of French America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_America

I tend to not bother researching things on Wikipedia. It's usually incorrect and if I'm just passing by with my thoughts on a hypothetical situation it's not worth my worthless time.

But I still mean like, Oregon and California and the like would all be one separate nation to the east coast. Probably with Mexico splitting them at least halfway down the middle.