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Postby The Union of Sapient Species » Tue May 14, 2013 4:02 pm

U.S. taxpayers are footing the bill for overseas lobbying that promotes controversial biotech crops developed by U.S.-based Monsanto Co. and other seed makers, a report issued on Tuesday said.
A review of 926 diplomatic cables of correspondence to and from the U.S. State Department and embassies in more than 100 countries found that State Department officials actively promoted the commercialization of specific biotech seeds, according to the report issued by Food & Water Watch, a nonprofit consumer protection group.

The officials tried to quash public criticism of particular companies and facilitated negotiations between foreign governments and seed companies such as Monsanto over issues like patents and intellectual property, the report said.

The cables show U.S. diplomats supporting Monsanto, the world's largest seed company, in foreign countries even after it paid $1.5 million in fines after being charged with bribing an Indonesian official and violating the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act in 2005.

One 2009 cable shows the embassy in Spain seeking "high-level U.S. government intervention" at the "urgent request" of Monsanto to combat biotech crop opponents there, according to the Food & Water Watch report.

The report covered cables from 2005-2009 that were released by Wikileaks in 2010 as part of a much larger release by Wikileaks of a range of diplomatic cables it obtained.

Monsanto spokesman Tom Helscher said Monsanto believes it is critical to maintain an open dialogue with government authorities and trade groups in other countries.

"We remain committed to sharing information so that individuals can better understand our business and our commitments to support farmers throughout the world as they work to meet the agriculture demands of our world's growing population," he said.

State Department officials had no immediate comment when contacted about the report.


Well.... This is disappointing.

Fuck Monsanto. Even if it were not Monsanto,the US government should not be supporting private businesses with tax money unless it's necessary to keep jobs in the US, or stimulate the economy. Neither of which this is doing. And they definitely should never do it like this.

I particularly love the Monsanto spokesman's comment... Because, you know, Monsanto totally doesn't fuck farmers over every single day.

I wonder if conservatives will be pissed at this actual wasteful spending?

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue May 14, 2013 4:03 pm

Well somebody makes those ads.

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Why is President Obama such a Monsanto man?
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Al-Faisal wrote:Why is President Obama such a Monsanto man?


I doubt the Pres. was involved in this. Seems a little low level for him.
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Used ALL the tax dollars on Monsanto! :p
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Al-Faisal wrote:Why is President Obama such a Monsanto man?

Look at his FDA appointments... yep, Monsanto is everywhere spreading their seeds of greed.
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The Union of Sapient Species wrote:
Al-Faisal wrote:Why is President Obama such a Monsanto man?


I doubt the Pres. was involved in this. Seems a little low level for him.


Yeah, same goes with Benghazi, AP-Justice Department probe, and the IRS targeting conservative groups. It's all Bush's fault *nods* He inherited this mess, dammit!

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The Union of Sapient Species wrote:
Al-Faisal wrote:Why is President Obama such a Monsanto man?


I doubt the Pres. was involved in this. Seems a little low level for him.

When I googled to look up more on the subject, the US president's name appears quite often in regards to supporting Monsanto. Something about a "Monsanto Protection Act" and other supportive actions.
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GMOs are the future but the govt funding private corps? Socialist Bullshit.
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Al-Faisal wrote:
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I doubt the Pres. was involved in this. Seems a little low level for him.

When I googled to look up more on the subject, the US president's name appears quite often in regards to supporting Monsanto. Something about a "Monsanto Protection Act" and other supportive actions.


Well, I feel rather betrayed....

Didn't we elect him because we thought he stood less of a chance of selling America to the corporations than Willard?
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Kota land wrote:GMOs are the future but the govt funding private corps? Socialist Bullshit.


Actually, government funding private business for private reasons is crony capitalism and corruption, not socialism.
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Postby Quintium » Tue May 14, 2013 4:14 pm

Let me say something that could sound extreme, but which is my honest opinion. Everyone who works in an executive function for Monsanto should be crucified. They've tried to install a 'seed registry' for the European Union with the help of their buddies in Brussels. Under their proposal, every farmer - commercial or hobbyist - would have had to use only seeds registered with a special bureau. And in order to register seeds, you'd need to go through a difficult and expensive procedure. Thankfully, it was called off after wide-scale public outrage.

They're still very much behind some future European Union plans to construct a legal framework for patenting DNA, though.
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Postby Trollgaard » Tue May 14, 2013 4:15 pm

Not a fan of franken-seeds produced by Monsanto. Producing healthier and more resistant crops is good, but the crazy ass Monsanto seeds are not.

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The Union of Sapient Species wrote:
Al-Faisal wrote:When I googled to look up more on the subject, the US president's name appears quite often in regards to supporting Monsanto. Something about a "Monsanto Protection Act" and other supportive actions.


Well, I feel rather betrayed....

Didn't we elect him because we thought he stood less of a chance of selling America to the corporations than Willard?

From where I stand it would seem President Barack Obama is not really different from the previous president at all. He still amplifies conflict in the Middle East and prostrates himself before the alter of Big Business. He never closed Guantanamo Bay or even gave its illegally held victims a right to trials. His healthcare program is just another boon to a multi-billion dollar industry, not to the citizenry of America.

Has he done anything actually "liberal" as president?
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Trollgaard wrote:Not a fan of franken-seeds produced by Monsanto. Producing healthier and more resistant crops is good, but the crazy ass Monsanto seeds are not.

Even despite that, the disturbing corporate practices they engage in is more than enough to not like them.
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Postby Frisivisia » Tue May 14, 2013 4:21 pm

GMOs are really good for the future of the plant, but they need to be more regulated and responsibly made, because some rather bad shit can happen when things are done wrong.
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Mavorpen wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:Not a fan of franken-seeds produced by Monsanto. Producing healthier and more resistant crops is good, but the crazy ass Monsanto seeds are not.

Even despite that, the disturbing corporate practices they engage in is more than enough to not like them.


I'm not really in the know, if you will, of Monsanto's corporate practices, but everyone say's they're bad. Do you have a few examples you could link to?

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Trollgaard wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Even despite that, the disturbing corporate practices they engage in is more than enough to not like them.


I'm not really in the know, if you will, of Monsanto's corporate practices, but everyone say's they're bad. Do you have a few examples you could link to?


Well, the article mentions that they violated the Corrupt Foreign Practices Act in 2005, for one
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The Union of Sapient Species wrote:
U.S. taxpayers are footing the bill for overseas lobbying that promotes controversial biotech crops developed by U.S.-based Monsanto Co. and other seed makers, a report issued on Tuesday said.
A review of 926 diplomatic cables of correspondence to and from the U.S. State Department and embassies in more than 100 countries found that State Department officials actively promoted the commercialization of specific biotech seeds, according to the report issued by Food & Water Watch, a nonprofit consumer protection group.

The officials tried to quash public criticism of particular companies and facilitated negotiations between foreign governments and seed companies such as Monsanto over issues like patents and intellectual property, the report said.

The cables show U.S. diplomats supporting Monsanto, the world's largest seed company, in foreign countries even after it paid $1.5 million in fines after being charged with bribing an Indonesian official and violating the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act in 2005.

One 2009 cable shows the embassy in Spain seeking "high-level U.S. government intervention" at the "urgent request" of Monsanto to combat biotech crop opponents there, according to the Food & Water Watch report.

The report covered cables from 2005-2009 that were released by Wikileaks in 2010 as part of a much larger release by Wikileaks of a range of diplomatic cables it obtained.

Monsanto spokesman Tom Helscher said Monsanto believes it is critical to maintain an open dialogue with government authorities and trade groups in other countries.

"We remain committed to sharing information so that individuals can better understand our business and our commitments to support farmers throughout the world as they work to meet the agriculture demands of our world's growing population," he said.

State Department officials had no immediate comment when contacted about the report.





Well.... This is disappointing.

Fuck Monsanto. Even if it were not Monsanto,the US government should not be supporting private businesses with tax money unless it's necessary to keep jobs in the US, or stimulate the economy. Neither of which this is doing. And they definitely should never do it like this.

I particularly love the Monsanto spokesman's comment... Because, you know, Monsanto totally doesn't fuck farmers over every single day.

I wonder if conservatives will be pissed at this actual wasteful spending?

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It is not uncommon for the state department to promote American products don't see the issue here.
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Well.... This is disappointing.

Fuck Monsanto. Even if it were not Monsanto,the US government should not be supporting private businesses with tax money unless it's necessary to keep jobs in the US, or stimulate the economy. Neither of which this is doing. And they definitely should never do it like this.

I particularly love the Monsanto spokesman's comment... Because, you know, Monsanto totally doesn't fuck farmers over every single day.

I wonder if conservatives will be pissed at this actual wasteful spending?

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It is not uncommon for the state department to promote American products don't see the issue here.


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Basically they don't like science and keeping people from starving to death.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue May 14, 2013 5:35 pm

The Union of Sapient Species wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
I'm not really in the know, if you will, of Monsanto's corporate practices, but everyone say's they're bad. Do you have a few examples you could link to?


Well, the article mentions that they violated the Corrupt Foreign Practices Act in 2005, for one

They bribed someone in a country, where your expected to bribe someone to sell crops.
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Postby Pope Joan » Tue May 14, 2013 5:39 pm

Since 2004, suicide has been the leading cause of death for farmers in AMERICA (as well as India), and this is thanks to Monsanto and their ilk.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... rmers.aspx

http://www.redeemingthedirt.com/2012/07 ... cupations/

Of course Monsanto has lots of money to bribe respected number crunchers at MIT and elsewhere to spin the data about this "myth".
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Postby Blazedtown » Tue May 14, 2013 5:50 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Since 2004, suicide has been the leading cause of death for farmers in AMERICA (as well as India), and this is thanks to Monsanto and their ilk.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... rmers.aspx

http://www.redeemingthedirt.com/2012/07 ... cupations/

Of course Monsanto has lots of money to bribe respected number crunchers at MIT and elsewhere to spin the data about this "myth".


What lovely sources you have.

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Well, I feel rather betrayed....

Didn't we elect him because we thought he stood less of a chance of selling America to the corporations than Willard?

From where I stand it would seem President Barack Obama is not really different from the previous president at all. He still amplifies conflict in the Middle East and prostrates himself before the alter of Big Business. He never closed Guantanamo Bay or even gave its illegally held victims a right to trials. His healthcare program is just another boon to a multi-billion dollar industry, not to the citizenry of America.

Has he done anything actually "liberal" as president?


He supported the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, tried to increase gun control, and said he supports gay marriage.

He is only partly to blame for Guantanamo. Congress blocked an attempt to transfer prisoners from Guantanamo. And the health care bill, while far from ideal, did stop insurance companies from fucking people by rejecting them for preexisting conditions, right? I'm not sure about your other criticisms.

Saying he's like Bush is a cliche, overly-simplistic one-liner.
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