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Are you proud to be a citizen of your country?

Yes (I'm American)
113
34%
No (I'm American)
76
23%
Yes (I'm a citizen of another country)
98
30%
No (I'm a citizen of another country)
44
13%
 
Total votes : 331

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The God-Realm
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Postby The God-Realm » Sat May 11, 2013 6:33 pm

Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Sure.

I hate the nation I was born in too, South Africa is full of retards who don't see something good when it happens (hint hint gay marriage)

You sly bastard D:

wut
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat May 11, 2013 6:35 pm

Al-Quarra wrote:
Seleucas wrote:I'm not in the least bit proud to be a citizen of my country, to the point that I don't even like to see the US flag displayed. I think that the US's impact is overwhelmingly negative, and ideally the country needs to be broken up to some degree or another. As for me, I'm hoping to move to another country sooner rather than later and then renounce my citizenship.


Go to North-Korea, at least they will get you to work in notime;)

The scary thing is we have people here who actually support North Korea.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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The God-Realm
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Postby The God-Realm » Sat May 11, 2013 6:36 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Al-Quarra wrote:
Go to North-Korea, at least they will get you to work in notime;)

The scary thing is we have people here who actually support North Korea.

You probably think i'm not a nice person.
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Disserbia
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Postby Disserbia » Sat May 11, 2013 6:36 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Lol I'm not a feminist and anyway this is about national pride so want to get back on topic?

Sure.

I hate the nation I was born in too, South Africa is full of retards who don't see something good when it happens (hint hint gay marriage)

My point is that it can be empowering for example Palestinians.
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Postby Infinite eternity » Sat May 11, 2013 6:36 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Infinite eternity wrote:No, really, I have family in Armenia.

Get me Serj Tankian's autograph as proof.

Don't feel like it.

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The God-Realm
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Postby The God-Realm » Sat May 11, 2013 6:36 pm

Disserbia wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Sure.

I hate the nation I was born in too, South Africa is full of retards who don't see something good when it happens (hint hint gay marriage)

My point is that it can be empowering for example Palestinians.

Solidarity is better.
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Esternial
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Postby Esternial » Sat May 11, 2013 6:36 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Esternial wrote:You sly bastard D:

wut

I saw what you did thar

Oh wait.

No nevermind.
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Distruzio
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Postby Distruzio » Sat May 11, 2013 6:36 pm

No. I'm a citizen of the United States. I'm embarrassed of that fact. I was even more embarrassed (it has diminished over the years) immediately following my involvement in the Armed Forces. It all came to a head when I chose to become involved in local politics. If those are the people that rule us - even on so small a scale - then I want nothing to do with a system that elevates such criminals.
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The God-Realm
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Postby The God-Realm » Sat May 11, 2013 6:36 pm

Infinite eternity wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Get me Serj Tankian's autograph as proof.

Don't feel like it.

Ok.
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat May 11, 2013 6:38 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Disserbia wrote:My point is that it can be empowering for example Palestinians.

Solidarity is better.

Solidarity is collectivist bullshit that attempts to put the collective above the desires of the individual.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Distruzio » Sat May 11, 2013 6:38 pm

Al-Quarra wrote:
Seleucas wrote:I'm not in the least bit proud to be a citizen of my country, to the point that I don't even like to see the US flag displayed. I think that the US's impact is overwhelmingly negative, and ideally the country needs to be broken up to some degree or another. As for me, I'm hoping to move to another country sooner rather than later and then renounce my citizenship.


Go to North-Korea, at least they will get you to work in notime;)


That's not actually a response to his postulate. ;)
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The God-Realm
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Postby The God-Realm » Sat May 11, 2013 6:39 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Solidarity is better.

Solidarity is collectivist bullshit that attempts to put the collective above the desires of the individual.

free markitz
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Seleucas
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Postby Seleucas » Sat May 11, 2013 6:40 pm

Al-Quarra wrote:
Seleucas wrote:I'm not in the least bit proud to be a citizen of my country, to the point that I don't even like to see the US flag displayed. I think that the US's impact is overwhelmingly negative, and ideally the country needs to be broken up to some degree or another. As for me, I'm hoping to move to another country sooner rather than later and then renounce my citizenship.


Go to North-Korea, at least they will get you to work in notime;)


Not my first choice (though the US bears an enormous amount of responsibility for the problems and misery in the Korean Peninsula, from Syngman Rhee onwards.)

Distruzio wrote:
Al-Quarra wrote:
Go to North-Korea, at least they will get you to work in notime;)


That's not actually a response to his postulate. ;)


But since other countries do bad things, that means America is perfect and I need to be proud of it!
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The Union will instead, fall.
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Postby Distruzio » Sat May 11, 2013 6:40 pm

Seleucas wrote:I'm not in the least bit proud to be a citizen of my country, to the point that I don't even like to see the US flag displayed. I think that the US's impact is overwhelmingly negative, and ideally the country needs to be broken up to some degree or another. As for me, I'm hoping to move to another country sooner rather than later and then renounce my citizenship.


Same here.
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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat May 11, 2013 6:40 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Solidarity is collectivist bullshit that attempts to put the collective above the desires of the individual.

free markitz

That is not a relevant response.
Last edited by Regnum Dominae on Sat May 11, 2013 6:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I support peace in Israel and Palestine. The governments and people in power on all sides are an absolute disgrace, and their unwillingness to pursue peace is a disservice to the people they are meant to be serving. The status quo is not simply untenable; it is unquestionably unacceptable.

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Postby Disserbia » Sat May 11, 2013 6:40 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Disserbia wrote:My point is that it can be empowering for example Palestinians.

Solidarity is better.

Well if you're Palestinian then pride can help build solidarity especially if you know it's a national movement.
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Postby Algeberia » Sat May 11, 2013 6:41 pm

Yes I am

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The God-Realm
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Postby The God-Realm » Sat May 11, 2013 6:42 pm

Seleucas wrote:
Al-Quarra wrote:
Go to North-Korea, at least they will get you to work in notime;)


Not my first choice (though the US bears an enormous amount of responsibility for the problems and misery in the Korean Peninsula, from Syngman Rhee onwards.)

When I visited, I liked it
Disserbia wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Solidarity is better.

Well if you're Palestinian then pride can help build solidarity especially if you know it's a national movement.

Look what pride did for Jews. It let them do what the Nazis did.
Regnum Dominae wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:free markitz

That is not a relevant response.

Sorry I failed you, master.
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Postby Disserbia » Sat May 11, 2013 6:43 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Seleucas wrote:
Not my first choice (though the US bears an enormous amount of responsibility for the problems and misery in the Korean Peninsula, from Syngman Rhee onwards.)

When I visited, I liked it
Disserbia wrote:Well if you're Palestinian then pride can help build solidarity especially if you know it's a national movement.

Look what pride did for Jews. It let them do what the Nazis did.
Regnum Dominae wrote:That is not a relevant response.

Sorry I failed you, master.

I never said it was always good I said it can be good.
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Mollary wrote:Hate and alcohol can unite most people.

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:One does not simply Mossad The Assad.

New Maldorainia wrote:Dissy likes touching my walruses.

The Blaatschapen wrote:Remember, birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you'll live.
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PC:
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00
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Right: 1.45
Libertarian: 6.22
Non-interventionist: 5.82
Cultural liberal: 2.23
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In a more sane world I'd be a moderate Republican.

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The God-Realm
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Postby The God-Realm » Sat May 11, 2013 6:44 pm

Disserbia wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:When I visited, I liked it

Look what pride did for Jews. It let them do what the Nazis did.

Sorry I failed you, master.

I never said it was always good I said it can be good.

Mostly it goes badly.
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sat May 11, 2013 6:44 pm

Seleucas wrote:I'm not in the least bit proud to be a citizen of my country, to the point that I don't even like to see the US flag displayed. I think that the US's impact is overwhelmingly negative, and ideally the country needs to be broken up to some degree or another. As for me, I'm hoping to move to another country sooner rather than later and then renounce my citizenship.


I admit there are times when I am not too happy with my country, what it has done, what it is doing and what it will undoubtedly do. However, I also think these polar extremes between absolute hate and absolute love to be...concerning. There's no nation on earth that is without sin, that has not done evil and that will not do evil. Whatever evil has come to mean or will mean as time goes on. With that said, I still am proud of my country and I think it has done some good. For one, my grandfather was liberated from Dachau because of American troops. My grandmother was given a new home and a new life, which would not have been the case had she stayed in Yugoslavia (where they'd probably have killed her). And it gave my mother a chance to live in the land of opportunity compared to the impoverished rural Korea she grew up in, where women really had no meaningful purpose except to have children (ideally sons) and die.

So I hope to see you move to another country soon, to lose your citizenship, but I hope your task is arduous. I hope the country you wish to migrate to only values/welcomes the well-educated or the wealthy so that it is just that much more harder. Because there are plenty of people who wish to come here who really know how shitty most of the world is and you're taking up their spot ;)

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Postby United Kingdom of Muffins » Sat May 11, 2013 6:45 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Seleucas wrote:I'm not in the least bit proud to be a citizen of my country, to the point that I don't even like to see the US flag displayed. I think that the US's impact is overwhelmingly negative, and ideally the country needs to be broken up to some degree or another. As for me, I'm hoping to move to another country sooner rather than later and then renounce my citizenship.


I admit there are times when I am not too happy with my country, what it has done, what it is doing and what it will undoubtedly do. However, I also think these polar extremes between absolute hate and absolute love to be...concerning. There's no nation on earth that is without sin, that has not done evil and that will not do evil. Whatever evil has come to mean or will mean as time goes on. With that said, I still am proud of my country and I think it has done some good. For one, my grandfather was liberated from Dachau because of American troops. My grandmother was given a new home and a new life, which would not have been the case had she stayed in Yugoslavia (where they'd probably have killed her). And it gave my mother a chance to live in the land of opportunity compared to the impoverished rural Korea she grew up in, where women really had no meaningful purpose except to have children (ideally sons) and die.

So I hope to see you move to another country soon, to lose your citizenship, but I hope your task is arduous. I hope the country you wish to migrate to only values/welcomes the well-educated or the wealthy so that it is just that much more harder. Because there are plenty of people who wish to come here who really know how shitty most of the world is and you're taking up their spot ;)

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Postby New Lexington » Sat May 11, 2013 6:45 pm

Not really. I am an american, and it often pains me how much hate and prejudice I see around me, especially when we proclaim ourselves as the "land of the free".
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Postby The God-Realm » Sat May 11, 2013 6:45 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Seleucas wrote:I'm not in the least bit proud to be a citizen of my country, to the point that I don't even like to see the US flag displayed. I think that the US's impact is overwhelmingly negative, and ideally the country needs to be broken up to some degree or another. As for me, I'm hoping to move to another country sooner rather than later and then renounce my citizenship.


I admit there are times when I am not too happy with my country, what it has done, what it is doing and what it will undoubtedly do. However, I also think these polar extremes between absolute hate and absolute love to be...concerning. There's no nation on earth that is without sin, that has not done evil and that will not do evil. Whatever evil has come to mean or will mean as time goes on. With that said, I still am proud of my country and I think it has done some good. For one, my grandfather was liberated from Dachau because of American troops. My grandmother was given a new home and a new life, which would not have been the case had she stayed in Yugoslavia (where they'd probably have killed her). And it gave my mother a chance to live in the land of opportunity compared to the impoverished rural Korea she grew up in, where women really had no meaningful purpose except to have children (ideally sons) and die.

So I hope to see you move to another country soon, to lose your citizenship, but I hope your task is arduous. I hope the country you wish to migrate to only values/welcomes the well-educated or the wealthy so that it is just that much more harder. Because there are plenty of people who wish to come here who really know how shitty most of the world is and you're taking up their spot ;)

I went to America because I was lied to, I have a right to complain.
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Esternial wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Postby Distruzio » Sat May 11, 2013 6:46 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:... there are plenty of people who wish to come here who really know how shitty most of the world is and you're taking up their spot ;)


They are welcome to it. Some of us are not so comfortable with compromising our morals. :blush:
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