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Does a God exist?

Yes, raised religious
405
34%
No, raised religious
341
29%
Yes, raised nonreligious
97
8%
No, raised nonreligious
261
22%
I believe in a different God than I was raised believing in
91
8%
 
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Does God exist?

Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 09, 2013 9:04 pm

because we were dangerously derailing another thread for the last 15 pages...

Do you believe that a God exists?

I believe that there are no supernatural deities. Science has better explained away all the various things that theists claim to be evidence for their god. And furthermore, considering the immense human suffering that exists today, a god would either have to be malevolent or incompetent:

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" -Epicurus

Furthermore, I simply feel that those making the claim that a god exists have the burden of proof on their shoulders to solidly prove that there is a god, before I would even consider believing in such a thing. I do not consider "the <insert holy book here> say so" to be legitimate evidence, because that begs the question: why is that holy book relevant?

This post will probably be expanded as I elaborate more on my beliefs.

Your thoughts?

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You can also use this thread to debate the merits of various religions, or religion in general.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu May 09, 2013 9:05 pm

If somebody can scientifically prove that there's a deity, then I'll believe, and not a moment sooner.
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Postby Oceasia » Thu May 09, 2013 9:05 pm

Yes, i think so
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 09, 2013 9:06 pm

Oceasia wrote:Yes, i think so

Why?
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 9:06 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:Do you believe that a God exists?

I believe that there are no supernatural deities. Science has better explained away all the various things that theists claim to be evidence for their god. And furthermore, considering the immense human suffering that exists today, a god would either have to be malevolent or incompetent:

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" -Epicurus

Furthermore, I simply feel that those making the claim that a god exists have the burden of proof on their shoulders to solidly prove that there is a god, before I would even consider believing in such a thing. I do not consider "the <insert holy book here> say so" to be legitimate evidence, because that begs the question: why is that holy book relevant?

This post will probably be expanded as I elaborate more on my beliefs.

Your thoughts?

G-d exists. The proof is everywhere and everything.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 09, 2013 9:07 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Do you believe that a God exists?

I believe that there are no supernatural deities. Science has better explained away all the various things that theists claim to be evidence for their god. And furthermore, considering the immense human suffering that exists today, a god would either have to be malevolent or incompetent:

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" -Epicurus

Furthermore, I simply feel that those making the claim that a god exists have the burden of proof on their shoulders to solidly prove that there is a god, before I would even consider believing in such a thing. I do not consider "the <insert holy book here> say so" to be legitimate evidence, because that begs the question: why is that holy book relevant?

This post will probably be expanded as I elaborate more on my beliefs.

Your thoughts?

God exists. The proof is everywhere and everything.

Elaborate.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu May 09, 2013 9:07 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Do you believe that a God exists?

I believe that there are no supernatural deities. Science has better explained away all the various things that theists claim to be evidence for their god. And furthermore, considering the immense human suffering that exists today, a god would either have to be malevolent or incompetent:

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" -Epicurus

Furthermore, I simply feel that those making the claim that a god exists have the burden of proof on their shoulders to solidly prove that there is a god, before I would even consider believing in such a thing. I do not consider "the <insert holy book here> say so" to be legitimate evidence, because that begs the question: why is that holy book relevant?

This post will probably be expanded as I elaborate more on my beliefs.

Your thoughts?

God exists. The proof is everywhere and everything.

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Postby FurryFandom » Thu May 09, 2013 9:07 pm

I don't think so, I am not religious.

I prefer to believe in the science.

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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 9:07 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Vazdania wrote:G-d exists. The proof is everywhere and everything.

Elaborate.

Every single thing, is a testimony to the existence of G-d.
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Postby The Islands of Equality » Thu May 09, 2013 9:07 pm

Another religion topic. This is going to be fun.

Anyways I am an agnostic atheist, who doesn't believe in any religion, or any "Gods". However there is a slim chance that there is some sort of force controlling the universe, but I highly doubt it, so call me a atheist.
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Postby Shallowell » Thu May 09, 2013 9:07 pm

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Postby Frisivisia » Thu May 09, 2013 9:08 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Do you believe that a God exists?

I believe that there are no supernatural deities. Science has better explained away all the various things that theists claim to be evidence for their god. And furthermore, considering the immense human suffering that exists today, a god would either have to be malevolent or incompetent:

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" -Epicurus

Furthermore, I simply feel that those making the claim that a god exists have the burden of proof on their shoulders to solidly prove that there is a god, before I would even consider believing in such a thing. I do not consider "the <insert holy book here> say so" to be legitimate evidence, because that begs the question: why is that holy book relevant?

This post will probably be expanded as I elaborate more on my beliefs.

Your thoughts?

God exists. The proof is everywhere and everything.

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Postby NVADF » Thu May 09, 2013 9:08 pm

In my opinion, the existence of god would raise more questions than it would answer.
No, I do not beleive he exists.
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Postby Gandoor » Thu May 09, 2013 9:08 pm

No, end of story.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 09, 2013 9:08 pm

The Islands of Equality wrote:This is going to be fun.

I'm not the only one who is pathologically obsessed with debating religion?
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Postby Genivaria » Thu May 09, 2013 9:08 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:I made a better one, with a better OP.

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Oh shove off. :p

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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 9:09 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Vazdania wrote:God exists. The proof is everywhere and everything.

There are scale replicas of all of the chickens in the world floating inside of Uranus. The proof is everywhere and everything.

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Postby Oceasia » Thu May 09, 2013 9:09 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Oceasia wrote:Yes, i think so

Why?

I am not a scientist, but here it is:
What materials made atom?
What materials made the materials of atom?
What materials made the materials made the materials of atom?
And it goes on forever. There is no way science can answer that in a near time.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 9:09 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
The Islands of Equality wrote:This is going to be fun.

I'm not the only one who is pathologically obsessed with debating religion?

I feel like no.
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Postby Frisivisia » Thu May 09, 2013 9:09 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:There are scale replicas of all of the chickens in the world floating inside of Uranus. The proof is everywhere and everything.

Glorious!

So you are a Uranus Chicken believer too?
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Postby Stolen Droplets » Thu May 09, 2013 9:09 pm

Yes god Exists, I swear if all this RELIGION "Bull Shit" is fake...someones got a problem. I tell yah what...to last for more than 2 millennia...how can u say that? What do u think its some stupid conspiracy cooked by Alex Jones? Must be one helluva conspiracy if it is BS, you know to survive this long...

God exists, sure I don't go to church, read the bible a lot, and I'm Catholic...but hey i still know there has to be a god.
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Postby Gandoor » Thu May 09, 2013 9:10 pm

Oceasia wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Why?

I am not a scientist, but here it is:
What materials made atom?
What materials made the materials of atom?
What materials made the materials made the materials of atom?
And it goes on forever. There is no way science can answer that in a near time.

That still doesn't mean some imaginary storybook character made anything.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu May 09, 2013 9:10 pm

Oceasia wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Why?

I am not a scientist, but here it is:
What materials made atom?
What materials made the materials of atom?
What materials made the materials made the materials of atom?
And it goes on forever. There is no way science can answer that in a near time.

it doesn't go on forever. It stops at strings.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu May 09, 2013 9:10 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Vazdania wrote:God exists. The proof is everywhere and everything.

There are scale replicas of all of the chickens in the world floating inside of Uranus. The proof is everywhere and everything.

And they are invisible and are undetectable. They exist, you must have faith. *nods*
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Postby NVADF » Thu May 09, 2013 9:10 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Elaborate.

Every single thing, is a testimony to the existence of G-d.

Are you saying that everything could not exist without a creator? Because if so, then what created god?
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