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Postby Eradium » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:00 am

Well Russia is back onto a first-strike policy now, so I'm not sure we can entirely rule out a return to MAD.
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Postby United Russian State » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:37 am

Eradium wrote:Well Russia is back onto a first-strike policy now, so I'm not sure we can entirely rule out a return to MAD.


MAD is still here.
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Postby Sibirsky » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:49 am

German Heresy wrote:Very soon, it'll start between USA and North Korea


That's not a World War. That's a weekend of fighting. Besides North Korea has no allies.
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Postby Sibirsky » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:50 am

The Valepian Lands wrote:
German Heresy wrote:Very soon, it'll start between USA and North Korea

That's not a world war. Who will side with North Korea? They have little allies. (Sure China is one, but they will be surrounded on many fronts by the US, EU, Russia and ASEAN.


China would side with the US.
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Postby United Russian State » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:55 am

The Valepian Lands wrote:
German Heresy wrote:Very soon, it'll start between USA and North Korea

That's not a world war. Who will side with North Korea? They have little allies. (Sure China is one, but they will be surrounded on many fronts by the US, EU, Russia and ASEAN.


China would side with NK at this point.
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Postby United Russian State » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:58 am

Sibirsky wrote:
The Valepian Lands wrote:
German Heresy wrote:Very soon, it'll start between USA and North Korea

That's not a world war. Who will side with North Korea? They have little allies. (Sure China is one, but they will be surrounded on many fronts by the US, EU, Russia and ASEAN.


China would side with the US.


I doubt it, they would likely remain neutrul.
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Postby Sibirsky » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:01 am

United Russian State wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:
The Valepian Lands wrote:
German Heresy wrote:Very soon, it'll start between USA and North Korea

That's not a world war. Who will side with North Korea? They have little allies. (Sure China is one, but they will be surrounded on many fronts by the US, EU, Russia and ASEAN.


China would side with the US.


I doubt it, they would likely remain neutrul.


Ok, neutral I can see. But if they did side with somebody, better to side with your largest trading partner and your livelihood, than a useless parasite who you have been supporting for the past 50 years.
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Postby United Russian State » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:13 am

But the best course to be neutral, remain on everybodies good side. Keep their trust with NK, and make some money in helping them rebuild. The war would also be harder for America and be a bigger hit to it's economy, military, and people. Making Ametica weaker, while the rest grow stronger. The winners are the ones on the side lines.
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Postby The Pan-Soviet Union » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:19 am

New Nicksyllvania wrote:When? I say 3 decades, we are currently in one of those odd, peaceful eras of humanity, which means all the more the next one will be big.

Why? For no particular reason, generally it will be simply to utilise all those wonderful gadgets we have been spending all the years developing, but only had the opportunity to use on primitives with Aks. We will try to justify it by claiming we are liberating people.



Wait a minute...."primitives with Aks?" What?

New Nicksyllvania wrote:Sides? Who knows, all that is certain is that neither India, nor China will be a major side.

That's right, it is well established that both sides are much too pacifist and incompetent for warfare.

India has spent the last 50 years doing nothing but launch mortars back and forth with Pakistan, in a sort of nationalistic purse slap. But has done nothing to actually move in and destroy Pakistan. Even when the Paki's blew up the Indian parliament, they did nothing.



If those that blew up the Indian parliament were Pakistani soldiers, as opposed to militants, India may well have done.

New Nicksyllvania wrote:As for China, China is like a Panda. Big, Strong, and has great potential. But the bloody thing does nothing but sit in a forest and chew on bamboo sprouts, instead of acting like a normal bear, hunting fish and game. And eventually will land itself into extinction as it refuses to reproduce.



Refuses to reproduce? What are you talking about? There's 1.3 billion of them!

New Nicksyllvania wrote:With the Europeans, being all apologetic socialists, the big threat would be from Africa, where they spent the last few decades slaughtering each other as the europeans have in the dark ages. That is unless, of course, Europeans go back to their old murdering, imperialist ways. Can't have a good world war without Germany.



Your knowledge of Europe is Nil. Your knowledge of Africa other than of thinking they kill each other all the time is evidently nil. Your belief a world war can not start without Germany does not make you reliable for accurate WW3 predictions either.

New Nicksyllvania wrote:America, unless it smartens up, will have its hands full attempting to keep freedom and democracy alive.



Yes, because everybody outside America is either Socialist, or not tough enough and either way freedom and democracy-hating savages who frustratingly will not wage war when you want them to.


New Nicksyllvania wrote:Also, nukes are vastly overrated as a weapon. A nuclear war is entirely survivable by the majority of the population, and will set humanity back a couple decades at most.




Oh that's alright then. Humanity just set back a couple of decades, survivable by majority of population...In a nuclear bunker.


I am reassured. Those nuclear weapons are so overrated....not enough death and destruction I say, not enough!

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Postby Saxomercunia » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:21 am

Have any of you visited a western capital city recently? It is predicted that within 50 years the native population of Britain alone will be a minority. Already 50% of all live births on the UK are to non-native parents. The next war will be a bitter, bloody and personal inter-ethnic conflict that will begin as a reaction to decades of colonisation of Europe and the US by third world migrants. Those responsible on the far left will be the first to be purged in an act of bloody vengeance against this deliberate act of ethnic cleansing. To deny a people there homeland is asking for trouble. The left will soon regret playing with race as if it was a meaningless variable with no will of its own.

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Postby SeaWinder » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:40 am

North Korea, Venezuela, Pakistan, Afganistan sign with China, Russia and the rest of the world send diplomats while they nuke outer space satalites and major city water supplies of their opponents. Then the Holy Jihad contaminates all of the free world, China, Russia, etc. drinking water and re-populates major centers with mosques.

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Postby CornixPes II » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:55 am

I really, really doubt China will do anything other than remain neutral.

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Postby Commandersos » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:19 am

CornixPes II wrote:I really, really doubt China will do anything other than remain neutral.



china is going to supply weapons which the US wont be able to proove were supplied and NK is going to nuke a lot of spots which chinese want to be nuked

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Postby TerraPublica » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:21 am

When:2 years from now

Why will the final World War be fought: An old woman will wait on a check-out line at a grocery store. She takes a long time, so the man behind her asks her to move up. She pulls a gun out of her purse and kills him. Unfortunatly, the man happenned to be Hu Jintao, President of China. That woman unwittingly started a war.



What will be the outcome:After 109 years of intense fighting, the US's nuclear arsenal will be accidentally launched by a dog. The other nations surrender, and the dog makes himself Emperor of the world.
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Postby Sibirsky » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:22 am

United Russian State wrote:But the best course to be neutral, remain on everybodies good side. Keep their trust with NK, and make some money in helping them rebuild. The war would also be harder for America and be a bigger hit to it's economy, military, and people. Making Ametica weaker, while the rest grow stronger. The winners are the ones on the side lines.


US vs. NK would make America weaker? Come on now. NK wouldn't be able to do much.
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Postby Plains Nations » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:23 am

The Valepian Lands wrote:
German Heresy wrote:Very soon, it'll start between USA and North Korea

That's not a world war. Who will side with North Korea? They have little allies. (Sure China is one, but they will be surrounded on many fronts by the US, EU, Russia and ASEAN.


The EU is not a military alliance. I beleive you mean NATO.
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Postby Tokos » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:27 am

Saxomercunia wrote:Have any of you visited a western capital city recently? It is predicted that within 50 years the native population of Britain alone will be a minority. Already 50% of all live births on the UK are to non-native parents. The next war will be a bitter, bloody and personal inter-ethnic conflict that will begin as a reaction to decades of colonisation of Europe and the US by third world migrants. Those responsible on the far left will be the first to be purged in an act of bloody vengeance against this deliberate act of ethnic cleansing. To deny a people there homeland is asking for trouble. The left will soon regret playing with race as if it was a meaningless variable with no will of its own.
Turning Britain into Yugoslavia won't qualify as a world war.
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Postby H N Fiddlebottoms VIII » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:32 am

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Commandersos wrote:will the final World War

Fail. No WW is final. No war is final.
Unless you wipe off COMPLETELY life from the planet, that is - which is something that even the world's whole nuclear arsenal cannot accomplish.

Well, having humanity knocked back to the early iron age or earlier would prevent World Wars. It is very hard to have a World War when you've got to travel on foot all the way from China to France just to get in the game, and fat chance bringing the New Word and Old World together on something when you've got to travel by carrack straight across the Atlantic and then back again just to have a single question and response. Given the current shortage of whales and early fossil fuels, being knocked across to the wrong side of the industrial era would probably prove a permanent development for humanity.
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Postby Tokos » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:46 am

H N Fiddlebottoms VIII wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Commandersos wrote:will the final World War

Fail. No WW is final. No war is final.
Unless you wipe off COMPLETELY life from the planet, that is - which is something that even the world's whole nuclear arsenal cannot accomplish.

Well, having humanity knocked back to the early iron age or earlier would prevent World Wars. It is very hard to have a World War when you've got to travel on foot all the way from China to France just to get in the game, and fat chance bringing the New Word and Old World together on something when you've got to travel by carrack straight across the Atlantic and then back again just to have a single question and response. Given the current shortage of whales and early fossil fuels, being knocked across to the wrong side of the industrial era would probably prove a permanent development for humanity.
A Canticle for Leibowitz is based on this, right? (Not that I've read it, I perhaps should)
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Postby Ordo Mallus » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:47 am

*cough*NATO fails, guy that hangs out at my local GW served with in NATO, said all he did was freeze his ass off in Europe with some Pols
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Postby CornixPes II » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:58 am

Commandersos wrote:
CornixPes II wrote:I really, really doubt China will do anything other than remain neutral.



china is going to supply weapons which the US wont be able to proove were supplied and NK is going to nuke a lot of spots which chinese want to be nuked

:o


There's nothing to suggest that. If that was a plan it would be transparent. NK will have nothing to gain from doing China's dirty work and they know the whole world has been rallying against them for at least the last decade. Both China and NK know that they cannot stand up against a Europe-America assault, even with China's numbers. If we have Russia as well then it's definitely gameover. We have been at a stalemate for years, and it will remain that way.

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Postby Yootopia » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:58 am

Saxomercunia wrote:Have any of you visited a western capital city recently? It is predicted that within 50 years the native population of Britain alone will be a minority. Already 50% of all live births on the UK are to non-native parents.

Define non-native. Just because they aren't white doesn't mean they don't live here and aren't economically active.
The next war will be a bitter, bloody and personal inter-ethnic conflict that will begin as a reaction to decades of colonisation of Europe and the US by third world migrants

Still yet to see rivers of blood...
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Postby CornixPes II » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:59 am

Tokos wrote:
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Commandersos wrote:will the final World War

Fail. No WW is final. No war is final.
Unless you wipe off COMPLETELY life from the planet, that is - which is something that even the world's whole nuclear arsenal cannot accomplish.

Well, having humanity knocked back to the early iron age or earlier would prevent World Wars. It is very hard to have a World War when you've got to travel on foot all the way from China to France just to get in the game, and fat chance bringing the New Word and Old World together on something when you've got to travel by carrack straight across the Atlantic and then back again just to have a single question and response. Given the current shortage of whales and early fossil fuels, being knocked across to the wrong side of the industrial era would probably prove a permanent development for humanity.
A Canticle for Leibowitz is based on this, right? (Not that I've read it, I perhaps should)


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Postby Political Pilgrims » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:26 am

I don't believe that there will be another major war until somebody develops a counter to nuclear weapons. Whoever gets that first will send the world to hell.

Also, by the time another WW starts, there will be clearly defined sides, like in WWI and WWII. No guessing or what-if's. If not, most nations will remain neutral, and that means it won't be a world war.
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Postby Tokos » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:30 am

Political Pilgrims wrote:I don't believe that there will be another major war until somebody develops a counter to nuclear weapons. Whoever gets that first will send the world to hell.

Also, by the time another WW starts, there will be clearly defined sides, like in WWI and WWII. No guessing or what-if's. If not, most nations will remain neutral, and that means it won't be a world war.
A block to nuclear weapons would still make that kind of warfare very risky, if you mean shooting the missiles down or something. It would be like knife fighting on a national scale: one small mistake, one miss, and a nuke gets through.
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