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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:17 am

New Sapienta wrote:Pakistan and India?

Ha, okay.

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Postby Indira » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:32 am

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Unlikely. And as the colonial years are LONG GONE, the use of force to make them a part of a world government is even more improbable.

With regards to the OP. The fact that these countries have FOUGHT WARS to remain independent should tell you EXACTLY how bad an idea this is

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Postby Risottia » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:34 am

Hindupashtunistan wrote:Should the nations of Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh be reunited into one nation? This would eliminate many of the tensions between the countries but place a huge stress on the government. Opinions?

Not gonna happen, because the Indian states would have the majority, and Pakistan and Bangladesh aren't going to accept that.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:35 am

Indira wrote:The fact that these countries have FOUGHT WARS to remain independent should tell you EXACTLY how bad an idea this is


All the countries of Europe have been at war with each other at some time. So what?
Hey, even the CITIES of Germany and Italy and Greece have fought wars between each other. So what?
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Postby Erulamia » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:39 am

Yes, under British rule. Just joking, how it is now is about as good as it gets for them.
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Postby Ainin » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:23 am

That's about as good an idea as merging Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq, or Israel, Egypt and Syria.
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Postby Eaglleia » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:47 am

South Asia =/=British India.
As for those 3,I don't see happening for a loooong time. Perhaps Bangladesh to India, although it'd still be pretty far-fetched at present, but, as stated before, it ain't happening with Pakistan.
I mean, lets look at the facts. They can't even make SAARC work the way it could and should, what makes you think a straight out reunification will?
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Postby Sdaeriji » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:54 am

You could convince me that Bangladesh might peacefully join India. It would be hard, but I feel like a compelling argument could be made.

But the idea that India and Pakistan should unite? That's mind-blowingly stupid.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:46 am

Azurand wrote:Only under the mighty jackboots of Global Caliphate, I may approve the unification.

Otherwise, no. :p


How about no, I actually like human rights. If it were the same as the Islamic Cordoba of Spain during its hightime I wouldn't mind it.
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Postby Indira » Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:35 pm

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Indira wrote:The fact that these countries have FOUGHT WARS to remain independent should tell you EXACTLY how bad an idea this is


All the countries of Europe have been at war with each other at some time. So what?
Hey, even the CITIES of Germany and Italy and Greece have fought wars between each other. So what?


Europe isn't a single country. And these countries have fought for their independence in living memory. And continue to do so from time to time. That alone demonstrates that there are serious ethnic and national tensions that would make such a union in the foreseeable future unworkable.

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Postby Azurand » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:00 pm

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Azurand wrote:Only under the mighty jackboots of Global Caliphate, I may approve the unification.

Otherwise, no. :p


How about no, I actually like human rights. If it were the same as the Islamic Cordoba of Spain during its hightime I wouldn't mind it.

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Postby Cosara » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:35 pm

Caninope wrote:The idea of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh reuniting is about as logical as the idea that Barack Obama will kill his wife, marry Ahmadinejad in a ceremony officiated by Mitt Romney during the 7th Inning Stretch of the Yankees-Red Sox game, and then the happy couple will then go challenge President Xi for the position of General Secretary of the CCP in a gladiatorial fight to the death involving roaches, slingshots, and hard candies.

This....is.....priceless!
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Postby Rajaputra » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:37 pm

I think it would be great if they could reunite, or at the very least form some kind of South Asian Union. I think too that this would be in their best interests; they would form an extremely powerful regional bloc that could serve as a counterweight to China. Sadly this is not likely to occur.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:40 pm

Cosara wrote:
Caninope wrote:The idea of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh reuniting is about as logical as the idea that Barack Obama will kill his wife, marry Ahmadinejad in a ceremony officiated by Mitt Romney during the 7th Inning Stretch of the Yankees-Red Sox game, and then the happy couple will then go challenge President Xi for the position of General Secretary of the CCP in a gladiatorial fight to the death involving roaches, slingshots, and hard candies.

This....is.....priceless!

I'll give you a buck for it.
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Postby Schmiegelland » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:48 pm

Cosara wrote:
Caninope wrote:The idea of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh reuniting is about as logical as the idea that Barack Obama will kill his wife, marry Ahmadinejad in a ceremony officiated by Mitt Romney during the 7th Inning Stretch of the Yankees-Red Sox game, and then the happy couple will then go challenge President Xi for the position of General Secretary of the CCP in a gladiatorial fight to the death involving roaches, slingshots, and hard candies.

This....is.....priceless!


I second that.

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Postby Mkuki » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:53 pm

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Azurand wrote:Only under the mighty jackboots of Global Caliphate, I may approve the unification.

Otherwise, no. :p


How about no, I actually like human rights. If it were the same as the Islamic Cordoba of Spain during its hightime I wouldn't mind it.

Just because Corboda didn't go a-huntin' for Jewish or Christian blood doesn't mean it was a time of rainbows and lollipops for non-Muslims or even Muslims.
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Postby Quintium » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:20 pm

It's lovely how there's so much talk of politics here. The problems South Asia has are much deeper than politics. The problems in that region started in the Middle Ages, when islamic invaders came from Arabia and murdered millions of people, bringing the western part of the region under their control. Eventually, though the process took centuries, the Hindus in the east were able to fight back. Then, after it became a bit more quiet in the region - though never silent - the differences that already existed between different cultural and ethnic groups were deepened by the division between Islam and Hinduism.

You'd have more luck merging South Africa with Thailand, because though the two have very little in common, at least they have not spent the past thousand years systematically murdering each other.
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Postby Diopolis » Wed May 08, 2013 4:56 pm

Caninope wrote:The idea of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh reuniting is about as logical as the idea that Barack Obama will kill his wife, marry Ahmadinejad in a ceremony officiated by Mitt Romney during the 7th Inning Stretch of the Yankees-Red Sox game, and then the happy couple will then go challenge President Xi for the position of General Secretary of the CCP in a gladiatorial fight to the death involving roaches, slingshots, and hard candies.

So very likely.
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Wed May 08, 2013 5:01 pm

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Blazedtown wrote:I hate to be that guy, but uniting all of South Asia would be a major step towards solving the over population problems in that part of the world.


How would that happen? Do you mean so many people would die during Unification Process, that it would solve Over Population Problem?

Well, the last time that happened It was under the British's bayonet, so what if history has some similarities?
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Postby The Marxist State » Wed May 08, 2013 5:27 pm

They were never 'unified' by anything except British imperialism in the first place.
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Postby Angleter » Thu May 09, 2013 3:42 am

The Marxist State wrote:They were never 'unified' by anything except British imperialism in the first place.


And the Mughals, Delhi (at least under Tughluq), and the Mauryans. The Guptas and Marathas came fairly close too. Most of the subcontinent is also socially united in a sense by Hinduism - which makes the fact that the only empires to virtually conquer the whole subcontinent in the last 2000 years were Christian (British) and Muslim (Mughals, Delhi) quite ironic. Otherwise, I do take your point that the Indian subcontinent being united is not exactly the norm.
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Postby The Whispers » Thu May 09, 2013 3:49 am

New Sapienta wrote:Pakistan and India?

Ha, okay.

More to the point, Pakistan and Bangladesh. That whole thing was kind of terrible.

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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 09, 2013 4:04 am

The Marxist State wrote:They were never 'unified' by anything except British imperialism in the first place.

Well, there were the Maurya and Mughal Empires...
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Postby Emilio Aguinaldo » Thu May 09, 2013 4:10 am

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The Marxist State wrote:They were never 'unified' by anything except British imperialism in the first place.

Well, there were the Maurya and Mughal Empires...

But, it didn't last as long as the British, they almost instantly got splinter states. (Iirc)
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Postby Unified states of North China » Thu May 09, 2013 4:17 am

Not a good idea.
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