The Mod-Sanctioned Israel/Palestine thread

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Well, simply put, then you'll lose.

Yes but there would be a valiant fight to the end rather then slowly be decimated without a peep.

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. As long as Hamas and Palestinian Dissidents keep engaging hostilities against Israel, Israel will continue to have free licence to respond. Those home made rockets are a far cry weaker than then the weaponry Israel returns fire with. The pen is mightier than the sword. If the Hamas disbanded, and the Palestinian government accepted a partition agreement, the Palestinians would actually have legitimate international support to rebuff Zionist aggression.


It's one thing if the Palestine was waging a legitimate war of conventional means. But what you're advocating for is genocide of the Israeli population.

[New Benian Republic]

Yes but there would be a valiant fight to the end rather then slowly be decimated without a peep.

So you'd rather have a bloody and never-ending fight that kills innocent people rather than a negotiated two-state solution that ensures democratic sovereignty for both the Israeli and Palestinian people?

Well realistically both sides understand there is something known as acceptable losses, But I would if need be support a two state solution if there was no possible way that the resistance could fight on any longer. And I doubt that it is even possible seeing how Israel is how it is.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Yes but there would be a valiant fight to the end rather then slowly be decimated without a peep.

So you'd rather have a bloody and never-ending fight that kills innocent people rather than a negotiated two-state solution that ensures democratic sovereignty for both the Israeli and Palestinian people?

For want of absolute victory, the war was lost.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

So you'd rather have a bloody and never-ending fight that kills innocent people rather than a negotiated two-state solution that ensures democratic sovereignty for both the Israeli and Palestinian people?

Well realistically both sides understand there is something known as acceptable losses, But I would if need be support a two state solution if there was no possible way that the resistance could fight on any longer. And I doubt that it is even possible seeing how Israel is how it is.

The resistance is perpetuating the bloodshed, it has no chance of success. It is simply stacking up bodies for no other purpose than to continue stacking up bodies.

[Olerand]

I agree, entirely. But things have gotten very heated in the area, and well, logic is quickly going out the window.

Also, what is your "home-country", I guess? Your flag is that of the Assyrians, are you Assyrian, or do you have it only in solidarity?

Yes, that seems to have be the case in many geopolitical conflicts like this. It reminds me of the Serbian Civil War and Hamas reminds me of that dummy that made A Serbian Film. "The life of a Serbian is nothing but rape..." he said with a straight face, even though Serbia was the primary agent of genocide in the region due to Serbian politicians wanting to consolidate a "Greater Serbia" out of what was once Yugoslavia.

Solidarity is a good word for it, I guess. I'm originally from Puerto Rico, but I was forced to move to America when my family's business collapsed. I very much admire the Middle East, it being the Cradle of Civilization and all in the "Old World".

Well, it's been a while since it was the cradle of civilization.

[The Rich Port]

Well realistically both sides understand there is something known as acceptable losses, But I would if need be support a two state solution if there was no possible way that the resistance could fight on any longer. And I doubt that it is even possible seeing how Israel is how it is.

The resistance is perpetuating the bloodshed, it has no chance of success. It is simply stacking up bodies for no other purpose than to continue stacking up bodies.

That's sadly been the case since the Ayatollah Khomeini established the tradition.

He seemed like a nice guy, rather senile, but old is old.

I would say he's rather medieval, but even medieval Muslims had more smarts than Muslims today.

Those fuckers almost took over Europe.

Now they're fighting for scraps in the desert...

[Olerand]

Yes but there would be a valiant fight to the end rather then slowly be decimated without a peep.

So you'd rather have a bloody and never-ending fight that kills innocent people rather than a negotiated two-state solution that ensures democratic sovereignty for both the Israeli and Palestinian people?

What is there to say. Fanaticism is a drug.

[New Benian Republic]

So you'd rather have a bloody and never-ending fight that kills innocent people rather than a negotiated two-state solution that ensures democratic sovereignty for both the Israeli and Palestinian people?

What is there to say. Fanaticism is a drug.

Resistance is always justified, no matter the cost.

[Olerand]

What is there to say. Fanaticism is a drug.

Resistance is always justified, no matter the cost.

Sure. And sometimes resistance is squashed. So much bloodshed for nothing. Especially since a solution is available.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

What is there to say. Fanaticism is a drug.

Resistance is always justified, no matter the cost.

No it isn't, discretion is the better part of valor.

[The Rich Port]

What is there to say. Fanaticism is a drug.

Resistance is always justified, no matter the cost.

Resistance is justified when there's justice to be had.

There's no justice down this road, not for nobody.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Resistance is always justified, no matter the cost.

Resistance is justified when there's justice to be had.

There's no justice down this road, not for nobody.

In this case, Resistance is Futile. Palestine should lower its shields and surrender its ships.

[The Rich Port]

Resistance is justified when there's justice to be had.

There's no justice down this road, not for nobody.

In this case, Resistance is Futile. Palestine should lower its shields and surrender its ships.

XD There's nobody even asking them to surrender, though.

We just want them to dump Hamas. They're assholes.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

In this case, Resistance is Futile. Palestine should lower its shields and surrender its ships.

XD There's nobody even asking them to surrender, though.

We just want them to dump Hamas. They're assholes.

So surrender it's Hamas then? Generally the Borg only take capable beings.

[The Rich Port]

Yes, that seems to have be the case in many geopolitical conflicts like this. It reminds me of the Serbian Civil War and Hamas reminds me of that dummy that made A Serbian Film. "The life of a Serbian is nothing but rape..." he said with a straight face, even though Serbia was the primary agent of genocide in the region due to Serbian politicians wanting to consolidate a "Greater Serbia" out of what was once Yugoslavia.

Solidarity is a good word for it, I guess. I'm originally from Puerto Rico, but I was forced to move to America when my family's business collapsed. I very much admire the Middle East, it being the Cradle of Civilization and all in the "Old World".

Well, it's been a while since it was the cradle of civilization.

I believe that the Muslim world can be great again. I believe that it can be a center of science, of education, of art, once again.

Their adherence to tradition and the past is what's holding them back. They need to look to the future.

I understand that it'll take a long time. I respect a lot of the Muslim cultures. I have seen what a loving Muslim father can do for his daughter, what a loving Muslim mother can do for her son. They're not ready to be exactly like America. I can understand that totally. I personally think that the culture we had during the Bush years was terrible and had to be abolished.

But violence isn't the way. War is not the way. A blind adherence to Islam isn't the way. It's why there has only been a handful of Muslim Nobel Prize Science winners in the centuries the Prize was established compared to the hundreds among hundreds of Jewish and Christian winners.

[The Rich Port]

XD There's nobody even asking them to surrender, though.

We just want them to dump Hamas. They're assholes.

So surrender it's Hamas then? Generally the Borg only take capable beings.

They must surrender the Hummus.

[Kraylandia]

United States set to free Jonathan Pollard.

[The Rich Port]

United States set to free Jonathan Pollard.

Geez. Didn't know we had to hold a spy hostage to get Israel to calm down XD

Not exactly the best idea...

[Great Feng]

Israel or Palestine shouldn't exist.
They only exist due to nationalism, and that's a horrible reason, especially since Nationalism is our world's Cancer and should be removed.

[The balkens]

Israel or Palestine shouldn't exist.
They only exist due to nationalism, and that's a horrible reason, especially since Nationalism is our world's Cancer and should be removed.

i can think of bigger cancers, tbf.

[Great Feng]

Israel or Palestine shouldn't exist.
They only exist due to nationalism, and that's a horrible reason, especially since Nationalism is our world's Cancer and should be removed.

i can think of bigger cancers, tbf.

Well it's the biggest idealogical cancer besides the "black and white" and "Us and/versus them" states of mind.

[Kubumba Tribe]

#FREEPALESTINE! My proposal would be that all the land be given back to Palestine, and have the people live under a democracy, or live under Muslim and Jewish law, depends on which one they want. So Israelis can still live in Palestine, but the Palestinians get their land back.

[Olerand]

#FREEPALESTINE! My proposal would be that all the land be given back to Palestine, and have the people live under a democracy, or live under Muslim and Jewish law, depends on which one they want. So Israelis can still live in Palestine, but the Palestinians get their land back.

So Palestine without Israelis or Jews. Anyway, that won't happen.

[Kubumba Tribe]

#FREEPALESTINE! My proposal would be that all the land be given back to Palestine, and have the people live under a democracy, or live under Muslim and Jewish law, depends on which one they want. So Israelis can still live in Palestine, but the Palestinians get their land back.

So Palestine without Israelis or Jews.

I didn't say that.

[Olerand]

So Palestine without Israelis or Jews.

I didn't say that.

No, you didn't. But you proposed something that can only end in that resolution. There is no alternative to the two-state solution, in 1967 borders.