Maryland close to eliminating death penalty

[Ainin]

It was probably easier for that to happen a century ago when we didn't have forensics and mostly depended on witnesses and circumstantial evidence to convict, but technology these days makes it easy to prove someone's guilt beyond reasonable doubt. There is no way a serial killers could properly hide his dna, fingerprints, and other traces of evidence from multiple crimes that he participated in.

Easy.

Kill somebody in a Hazmat suit.

Or hell, you could take crime into the space-age and kill someone with a high-powered laser.

Where will you dispose of the HazMat suit?

(The answer was in Mount Kilauea)

[AETEN II]

Easy.

Kill somebody in a Hazmat suit.

Or hell, you could take crime into the space-age and kill someone with a high-powered laser.

Where will you dispose of the HazMat suit?

(The answer was in Mount Kilauea)

Oh yeah, that brings up two things.
-Destroy it.
-Perfect Murder- chuck somebody into a Volcano. Difficult, but hey, no body to find. No DNA either.


Also, good another death penalty down, AKA, waste of money. Lets now move onto the other states, like the horrible mess of a place where I live, California.

[Myrensis]

So my state is replacing the death penalty with life-sentencing. Personally, I think this is another great step towards fixing the broken prison system. What are your thoughts, NSG? Progress, or stupid move?

I'd be wary about viewing it as a great step toward fixing the broken prison system..since all they did was (maybe) abolish a punishment that affects .02% of the prison population and only comes up about once a decade.

[AETEN II]

So my state is replacing the death penalty with life-sentencing. Personally, I think this is another great step towards fixing the broken prison system. What are your thoughts, NSG? Progress, or stupid move?

I'd be wary about viewing it as a great step toward fixing the broken prison system..since all they did was (maybe) abolish a punishment that affects .02% of the prison population and only comes up about once a decade.

I live in California. Death Row is simply life in prison, because the lethal injection gets stuck in border control because it's a 'lethal substance'.

Well no shit.

[Condunum]

I'd be wary about viewing it as a great step toward fixing the broken prison system..since all they did was (maybe) abolish a punishment that affects .02% of the prison population and only comes up about once a decade.

I live in California. Death Row is simply life in prison, because the lethal injection gets stuck in border control because it's a 'lethal substance'.

Well no shit.

You're kidding.

You are kidding, right?

[Curiosityness]

Yesssss

[Norstal]

This is CM's Communist plot. I just know it.

[The New Sea Territory]

I think the state has no right to deprive a citizen of life. Citizen.

Foreign invaders/terrorists are different.

[Sovietta]

Good. The Death Penalty is harsh.

[Quebec and Atlantic Canada]

Good for Maryland!

Now let's put those Democratic supermajorities to use in California, eh?

[Asasia]

This is great news! Now they can start focusing more on rehabilitation rather than deterrents.

[Desperate Measures]

They do, but you still have to eat and shower with most of the prison population, which is where prison murders tend to happen.

Source?

There is no source. There is only Rereumrari!

[Condunum]

This is CM's Communist plot. I just know it.

We had a secret convention a few months ago. Shh, don't tell anyone.

[Sailsia]

Good job Maryland. Hopefully your neighbor to the east will do the same soon.

[AETEN II]

I live in California. Death Row is simply life in prison, because the lethal injection gets stuck in border control because it's a 'lethal substance'.

Well no shit.

You're kidding.

You are kidding, right?

If I remember correctly, no I am not. Although I can't find the original article (it was local news a long time ago), it might have been caused by them being deemed 'cruel' by the judges, and thus held, or before that case, so they were simply held because of tighter laws after 9/11.

But knowing my state, probably not.

[Dilange]

Im surprised people forget about how long it actually takes from being sentenced to death, to being executed.

[Sri Tschow]

I have not read through the entire thread, but Rereumari is ridiculous. Say there is a man standing in a room with a gun. There are fourteen dead bodies, all shot with that gun. The man's fingerprints are on the gun, and there is residue on the man to suggest that he fired the rounds. He didn't, however. There was another man who had that gun and shot and killed all fourteen people. He then tossed the gun and ran. The man who was surrounded by the bodies picks up the gun and fires at the real murderer. Then the police come in, and see the man with the gun, and the bodies on the floor. He was wrongly convicted of homicide and sent to death row. That is a very real scenario.

[Sucrati]

No, really.

Maryland’s Senate voted Wednesday to repeal the death penalty, moving the state one step closer to joining 17 others that ban capital punishment.
The Senate voted 27-20 to pass legislation that would replace execution with a sentence of life without the possibility of parole. The bill must be approved by the House of Delegates before becoming law.

Gov. Martin O'Malley said he was pleased with the vote.

"We remain hopeful that we will see a similar outcome in the House," he said in a statement. "It's time to end this ineffective and expensive practice and put our efforts behind crime fighting strategies that work."

Maryland has five inmates on death row, although no executions have been conducted since 2005. The state has carried out five executions since the death penalty was reinstated in 1978, according to the Death Penalty Information Center.

“The vote in the Maryland Senate to end the death penalty is in line with an emerging trend away from capital punishment around the country,” Richard Dieter, the center’s executive director, said in a statement. “Death sentences and executions have sharply declined, and now states are taking the final step toward eliminating the death penalty.”

So my state is replacing the death penalty with life-sentencing. Personally, I think this is another great step towards fixing the broken prison system. What are your thoughts, NSG? Progress, or stupid move?

Personally, I wonder why lawmakers believe that allowing monsters who earned the death penalty to live is a good idea. Especially when prisons have a limited capacity and there's hardly any money to expand said prisons. You've also got to remember that their victims, or by extension, their loved ones have to deal with the fact that the person who committed a crime against their life or limb is going to live (behind bars) while those who suffered at the hands of the criminal aren't getting the justice they deserve. Showing compassion to those who commit the crimes that earn the death penalty is not the way society should work.

Not only that, but more tax dollars to keep former death row inmates in prison for the rest of their lives? Sure, they are stuck in prison, but where is the justice for the victims and their loved ones?

Then again, these are the same political elites that are creating legislation that is driving a major job supplier (Beretta USA) out of the state... or that's what they are threatening to do anyway. Hooray for 'Progress'. Can't fix a broken system if you just add onto the problem. It's like digging a hole and expecting it to fill back up as you continue to dig.

[Dude Ranch]

Yes and they also were fine with the Death Penalty even though they also included the "cruel and usual" clause in the 8th amendment, which means the death penalty was never meant to be illegal or unconstitutional.

And yet, the interpretation of things change with time, don't they?

Not with the 2nd Amendment it seems.

[Ceannairceach]

Personally, I wonder why lawmakers believe that allowing monsters who earned the death penalty to live is a good idea. Especially when prisons have a limited capacity and there's hardly any money to expand said prisons. You've also got to remember that their victims, or by extension, their loved ones have to deal with the fact that the person who committed a crime against their life or limb is going to live (behind bars) while those who suffered at the hands of the criminal aren't getting the justice they deserve. Showing compassion to those who commit the crimes that earn the death penalty is not the way society should work.

Not only that, but more tax dollars to keep former death row inmates in prison for the rest of their lives? Sure, they are stuck in prison, but where is the justice for the victims and their loved ones?

Then again, these are the same political elites that are creating legislation that is driving a major job supplier (Beretta USA) out of the state... or that's what they are threatening to do anyway. Hooray for 'Progress'. Can't fix a broken system if you just add onto the problem. It's like digging a hole and expecting it to fill back up as you continue to dig.

It is more expensive to kill a prisoner than to house them.

No guilt is absolute.

Justice, not revenge.

[Owl Cities]

Personally, I wonder why lawmakers believe that allowing monsters who earned the death penalty to live is a good idea. Especially when prisons have a limited capacity and there's hardly any money to expand said prisons.

Arguing for killing people in order to create living space. Reminds me of a certain 1930s-1940s dictator. I wonder who?

You've also got to remember that their victims, or by extension, their loved ones have to deal with the fact that the person who committed a crime against their life or limb is going to live (behind bars) while those who suffered at the hands of the criminal aren't getting the justice they deserve. Showing compassion to those who commit the crimes that earn the death penalty is not the way society should work.

Well, I guess it's a good thing we don't allow those related to victims to decide how our justice system works then! Vengeance is not the same thing as justice.

Not only that, but more tax dollars to keep former death row inmates in prison for the rest of their lives? Sure, they are stuck in prison, but where is the justice for the victims and their loved ones?

It costs more to give prisoners the death penalty then keep them in prison for life.

[Norstal]

Not only that, but more tax dollars to keep former death row inmates in prison for the rest of their lives? Sure, they are stuck in prison, but where is the justice for the victims and their loved ones?

Then again, these are the same political elites that are creating legislation that is driving a major job supplier (Beretta USA) out of the state... or that's what they are threatening to do anyway. Hooray for 'Progress'. Can't fix a broken system if you just add onto the problem. It's like digging a hole and expecting it to fill back up as you continue to dig.

Is this justice or revenge?

Because if justice is about revenge, why have the state dish out the punishment? We should let the victims decide the punishment.

But we don't do that because we're not cavemen.

[Condunum]

No, really.



So my state is replacing the death penalty with life-sentencing. Personally, I think this is another great step towards fixing the broken prison system. What are your thoughts, NSG? Progress, or stupid move?

Personally, I wonder why lawmakers believe that allowing monsters who earned the death penalty to live is a good idea. Especially when prisons have a limited capacity and there's hardly any money to expand said prisons.

If retarded drug laws were to be fixed, we wouldn't have this problem. Like, at all.

You've also got to remember that their victims, or by extension, their loved ones have to deal with the fact that the person who committed a crime against their life or limb is going to live (behind bars) while those who suffered at the hands of the criminal aren't getting the justice they deserve.

this is implying you deserve the death of someone. No one has any right to see to the death of someone else.

Showing compassion to those who commit the crimes that earn the death penalty is not the way society should work.

It has a lot more t do with cost and possibility of killing innocent people.

Not only that, but more tax dollars to keep former death row inmates in prison for the rest of their lives?

States are considering this because it's saving money.

Sure, they are stuck in prison, but where is the justice for the victims and their loved ones?

They're behind bars. If they can't accept that as justice, they can get over themselves.

Then again, these are the same political elites that are creating legislation that is driving a major job supplier (Beretta USA) out of the state... or that's what they are threatening to do anyway.

Yeah, I honestly don't get what Beretta is all up in arms about...

Hooray for 'Progress'. Can't fix a broken system if you just add onto the problem. It's like digging a hole and expecting it to fill back up as you continue to dig.

This isn't really adding to the problem so much as taking a problem away.

[Rereumrari]

I have not read through the entire thread, but Rereumari is ridiculous. Say there is a man standing in a room with a gun. There are fourteen dead bodies, all shot with that gun. The man's fingerprints are on the gun, and there is residue on the man to suggest that he fired the rounds. He didn't, however. There was another man who had that gun and shot and killed all fourteen people. He then tossed the gun and ran. The man who was surrounded by the bodies picks up the gun and fires at the real murderer. Then the police come in, and see the man with the gun, and the bodies on the floor. He was wrongly convicted of homicide and sent to death row. That is a very real scenario.

Just because it can happen, doesn't it will happen. Besides, there would be two sets of fingerprints on the gun as a result, meaning you would have to investigate both of those men to find out who really fired the gun. That in combination with potential witnesses seeing the man flee the scene is enough to prevent the men you're talking about from being put away.

[Condunum]

And yet, the interpretation of things change with time, don't they?

Not with the 2nd Amendment it seems.

What a small number of people think doesn't matter. The interpretation of the 2nd amendment has changed quite a bit, actually.