Maryland close to eliminating death penalty

[Condunum]

Far less financially beneficial than simply executing the prisoner's much sooner then is usual.

Unfortunate that our ignorant friends cannot see this.

Why do you people hate the appeals process do much? It's like you guys fap to killing innocent people.

[Lonara]

Unfortunate that our ignorant friends cannot see this.

Why do you people hate the appeals process do much? It's like you guys fap to killing innocent people.

Like I said, it doesn't take as long to appeal your case as it does to sit on death row. We need to speed up the process in both cases.

[Condunum]

Except no. Have fun with killing innocent people because you didn't give them a chance for appeal

Giving them a chance to appeal doesn't take the ten years they'd normally sit on death row.

Oh, really? And what of the cases that took twenty or so years to find someone innocent with fresh evidence?

[FoxTropica]

Except no. Have fun with killing innocent people because you didn't give them a chance for appeal

Giving them a chance to appeal doesn't take the ten years they'd normally sit on death row.

That gives 10 years to find proof of innocence that would otherwise be lost in the case of "Well, we looked for 20 minutes, didn't find proof of innocence, then stopped for cake, and then your appeal time was up"

[Condunum]

Why do you people hate the appeals process do much? It's like you guys fap to killing innocent people.

Like I said, it doesn't take as long to appeal your case as it does to sit on death row. We need to speed up the process in both cases.

Time always produces new evidence. Tht is the primary reason why it takes so long.

[Condunum]

Giving them a chance to appeal doesn't take the ten years they'd normally sit on death row.

That gives 10 years to find proof of innocence that would otherwise be lost in the case of "Well, we looked for 20 minutes, didn't find proof of innocence, then stopped for cake, and then your appeal time was up"

But kitty on the keyboard, it saves money and we get to kill evil pplz!

[Lonara]

Like I said, it doesn't take as long to appeal your case as it does to sit on death row. We need to speed up the process in both cases.

Time always produces new evidence. Tht is the primary reason why it takes so long.

If it takes ten years to find proof of innocence, the case should have never been up for the death penalty. I don't want it for everyone, I want it for the Beltway shooters and the Timothy McVeighs.

[Chestaan]

And to no further expense of the tax payer. Eliminating the death penalty is a financially beneficial move. Why do you and your ignorant count parts not recognize this?

Far less financially beneficial than simply executing the prisoner's much sooner then is usual.

I'd like to live in a civilized and just world, thank you very much.

[Lonara]

Far less financially beneficial than simply executing the prisoner's much sooner then is usual.

I'd like to live in a civilized and just world, thank you very much.

Well that sucks. Tell me when you find one.

[Condunum]

Time always produces new evidence. Tht is the primary reason why it takes so long.

If it takes ten years to find proof of innocence, the case should have never been up for the death penalty. I don't want it for everyone, I want it for the Beltway shooters and the Timothy McVeighs.

They all look the same. They all look the same until you find the evidence to prove their innocence.

[FoxTropica]

That gives 10 years to find proof of innocence that would otherwise be lost in the case of "Well, we looked for 20 minutes, didn't find proof of innocence, then stopped for cake, and then your appeal time was up"

But kitty on the keyboard, it saves money and we get to kill evil pplz!

So does shutting down all the hospitals! Evil people sometimes use hospitals.

I mean some innocent people would probably get hurt or killed in the process, but it stops evil and saves money so it's all good.

[Condunum]

I'd like to live in a civilized and just world, thank you very much.

Well that sucks. Tell me when you find one.

What stupidly defeatist thing to say.

[Chestaan]

I'd like to live in a civilized and just world, thank you very much.

Well that sucks. Tell me when you find one.

My country doesn't execute prisoners, so I think I'm good.

[Lonara]

If it takes ten years to find proof of innocence, the case should have never been up for the death penalty. I don't want it for everyone, I want it for the Beltway shooters and the Timothy McVeighs.

They all look the same. They all look the same until you find the evidence to prove their innocence.

Are you stating that we should have kept those men around longer, and given them more of a chance?

[Condunum]

But kitty on the keyboard, it saves money and we get to kill evil pplz!

So does shutting down all the hospitals! Evil people sometimes use hospitals.

I mean some innocent people would probably get hurt or killed in the process, but it stops evil and saves money so it's all good.

I heard doctors sometimes kill their patients. The monsters!

[Lonara]

Well that sucks. Tell me when you find one.

My country doesn't execute prisoners, so I think I'm good.

And that makes it civilized and just?

[Lonara]

So does shutting down all the hospitals! Evil people sometimes use hospitals.

I mean some innocent people would probably get hurt or killed in the process, but it stops evil and saves money so it's all good.

I heard doctors sometimes kill their patients. The monsters!

Your sarcasm is so refreshing.

[Condunum]

They all look the same. They all look the same until you find the evidence to prove their innocence.

Are you stating that we should have kept those men around longer, and given them more of a chance?

Perhaps. No evidence came about for them though. No, I'm saying that the half dozen other people with extremely similar cases who were set free wouldn't appreciate you saying "well, I only want the people who really look like they're bad people to be put on deth row".

[Chestaan]

My country doesn't execute prisoners, so I think I'm good.

And that makes it civilized and just?

Not that alone.

I think you're missing my point. I was pointing out that by cutting into the appeals process it would be a far less just system. Executing one innocent man is too many, but under such a system executions of those innocent of the crime would inevitably increase.

[Lonara]

Are you stating that we should have kept those men around longer, and given them more of a chance?

Perhaps. No evidence came about for them though. No, I'm saying that the half dozen other people with extremely similar cases who were set free wouldn't appreciate you saying "well, I only want the people who really look like they're bad people to be put on deth row".

The painful part of this conversation is that we're so close to reaching a consensus, I just can't adequately explain what I'm trying to tell you.

[Neo Arcad]

GOD DAMN IT.
Fuck my fucking state.

[Lonara]

GOD DAMN IT.
Fuck my fucking state.

I take it you're from Cumberland?

[Neo Arcad]

GOD DAMN IT.
Fuck my fucking state.

I take it you're from Cumberland?

No one lives in Western Maryland, so that would be a negative.

[Lonara]

I take it you're from Cumberland?

No one lives in Western Maryland, so that would be a negative.

Sure they do! We just call them West Virginians.

[Condunum]

I take it you're from Cumberland?

No one lives in Western Maryland, so that would be a negative.

Western Maryland is a folk tale we tell our children here. Even though I live in Carroll county and it's literally right there.