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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:08 pm

I hate democracy, and my nation is democratic. If the revolution were performed by Fascists or Monarchists I would gladly fight for them.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:09 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I hate democracy, and my nation is democratic. If the revolution were performed by Fascists or Monarchists I would gladly fight for them.

What if we offered you cookies to stay on Democracy's side?
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Postby Divair » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:09 pm

Revolution? Israel? Never.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:10 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I hate democracy, and my nation is democratic. If the revolution were performed by Fascists or Monarchists I would gladly fight for them.

What if we offered you cookies to stay on Democracy's side?

No, unless they were peppermint patties. :p
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:11 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:What if we offered you cookies to stay on Democracy's side?

No, unless they were peppermint patties. :p

*screams out window* Get on it men! Bring us Peppermint Patties! We must Deny the Fascists more manpower! :p
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Postby Neo Prutenia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:24 pm

Kleomentia wrote:So, NSG, the question is simple. How would you react if a armed revolution against the government of your current living place happened? Would you temporarily leave, move somewhere else, stay neutral or join the revolution?


Hey, I moved here to avoid such nonsense. If there was a revolution, and if the revolutionaries would show even a sliver of sensibility (Bog zna, the current Serbian government AND people don't), I might volunteer. I've grown fond of my adopted home. ^_^ But I'd probably just return back home to Germany, or use the opportunity to visit my old flame in Colmar. Then I'd wait for the dust to settle.

Kleomentia wrote:Personally, if a revolution took place in Serbia at my current age i probably wouldn't get involved. I might move to my holiday get away in southern Serbia to get away from possible conflicts in Belgrade. If i was in my 20s or 30s i would probably be leading the revolution :lol:


Because Southern Serbia is so secure these days. XD I'm 25. You wouldn't see me leading a revolution in the streets of Belgrade. Or Berlin. Well, not a violent one.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:26 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:No, unless they were peppermint patties. :p

*screams out window* Get on it men! Bring us Peppermint Patties! We must Deny the Fascists more manpower! :p

Mm one tastey bribe... :p
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Postby Augarundus » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:34 pm

That would depend upon the circumstances of the revolution, I suppose.
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Postby Anollasia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:36 pm

I can't imagine that in Canada, but I might move.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:37 pm

Counterrevolutionary, or refugee. All depends, I guess.
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Postby Camicon » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:40 pm

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Camicon wrote:I'd be wondering why they didn't give up in a week. They are French-Canadians, after all. :p
I kid, I kid. Violent separatists aren't entirely unknown to Canada, however. Most recently, the October Crisis. Historically, we have the Rebellions of 1837, the Red River Rebellion, and the North-West Rebellion.

True, but violent federalists do exist too, Richard Henry Bain and Denis Lortie who both tried to kill a sovereignist Premier, killing and injuring more people than the FLQ, who killed one guy. It's not the separatists who burned down the parliament in Montreal in 1849 only because L.H Lafontaine wanted to give indemnisation to the Patriot families who got their farms burned down by the British army. It was a crowd of 1500 angry orangists. Oh, and they also tried to kill him in his home in the same night.

Now about the Rebellion of 1837, it wasn't initially about separatism. The Patriots didn't want to secede from the crown, they wanted a representative governement and a voice in the budget. London responded with the 10 Russel resolutions. I mean, the Americans seceded from the crown for less than that. As for the Red river and North-West rebellion, the Metis were actually trying to defend their home and their rights. That's what I like about Canada, we have 2 differents histories.

Edit: the wikiarticle on Denis Lortie was in French, here an English version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Lortie

My main point was that Canada is no stranger to violent rebellion, regardless of it's origins.
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Postby Rio Cana » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:41 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:Counterrevolutionary, or refugee. All depends, I guess.


Time to get the counter-revolutionary poster out.

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Postby Saint-Thor » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:29 pm

Camicon wrote:
Saint-Thor wrote:True, but violent federalists do exist too, Richard Henry Bain and Denis Lortie who both tried to kill a sovereignist Premier, killing and injuring more people than the FLQ, who killed one guy. It's not the separatists who burned down the parliament in Montreal in 1849 only because L.H Lafontaine wanted to give indemnisation to the Patriot families who got their farms burned down by the British army. It was a crowd of 1500 angry orangists. Oh, and they also tried to kill him in his home in the same night.

Now about the Rebellion of 1837, it wasn't initially about separatism. The Patriots didn't want to secede from the crown, they wanted a representative governement and a voice in the budget. London responded with the 10 Russel resolutions. I mean, the Americans seceded from the crown for less than that. As for the Red river and North-West rebellion, the Metis were actually trying to defend their home and their rights. That's what I like about Canada, we have 2 differents histories.

Edit: the wikiarticle on Denis Lortie was in French, here an English version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Lortie

My main point was that Canada is no stranger to violent rebellion, regardless of it's origins.

Sorry, but it's the "violent separatist" part of your sentence that suggested otherwise. I would actually rephrase that as: "Canada is no stranger to violent repression". ;) Let's not be ashamed of the word here.
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Postby Wielki Lechia » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:33 pm

I would signal the Canadians to start their invasion.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:37 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I would probably behave oddly.

Do you mean you'd buy a suit, dry up your mud puddle and replace your taco inventory with lightly salted rice cakes?


I said oddly, not impossibly. :p
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Postby Curiosityness » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:37 pm

I would move to another country like switzerland
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Postby Nua Corda » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:38 pm

Depends on who was starting the revolution.
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Postby Vistulange » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:41 pm

A leftist revolution, or a Kemalist one? I'd definitely take my pistol and join up with the revolutionaries.

A right-wing revolution, or a fundamentalist one? I'd definitely take my pistol and fight until I'm dead. Not letting those capitalist, fascist or fundamentalist scum gain total control of my country.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:43 pm

Vistulange wrote:A leftist revolution, or a Kemalist one? I'd definitely take my pistol and join up with the revolutionaries.

A right-wing revolution, or a fundamentalist one? I'd definitely take my pistol and fight until I'm dead. Not letting those capitalist, fascist or fundamentalist scum gain total control of my country.

Fascism is actually quite similar to several forms of Leftism I would say.
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Postby Vareiln » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:44 pm

Depends on the motivations and forces operating within the revolution. All in all, I likely wouldn't fight. I'm too much of a coward.
Although, if I were to ITG it up, then perhaps America could use a Makhnovshchina. :lol:

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Postby Camicon » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:47 pm

Wielki Lechia wrote:I would signal the Canadians to start their invasion.

And we would heed your call! A wave of lumberjacks, riding bareback on polar bears! Squads of hockey players to serve as our special forces! The van of our forces led by the fabled Lacrosse Players of Olde! Our air support from the claws of the Pacific Loon!
We would make glorious maple syrup, swim down the Mississippi alongside our Beaver Brothers, and cordially conquer everything before us! The Invasion of America would be known as the most polite war in the history of man-kind! The hills would ring with goodwill and merriment!
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Postby Vistulange » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:47 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Vistulange wrote:A leftist revolution, or a Kemalist one? I'd definitely take my pistol and join up with the revolutionaries.

A right-wing revolution, or a fundamentalist one? I'd definitely take my pistol and fight until I'm dead. Not letting those capitalist, fascist or fundamentalist scum gain total control of my country.

Fascism is actually quite similar to several forms of Leftism I would say.


Socialism might be, but even socialism advocates for the State to be temporary. Can't see any other similarities, sorry.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:48 pm

Vistulange wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Fascism is actually quite similar to several forms of Leftism I would say.


Socialism might be, but even socialism advocates for the State to be temporary. Can't see any other similarities, sorry.

State Capitalism? Several forms of Communism incorporate it and Fascist does to an extent.
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Postby Nua Corda » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:49 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Vistulange wrote:
Socialism might be, but even socialism advocates for the State to be temporary. Can't see any other similarities, sorry.

State Capitalism? Several forms of Communism incorporate it and Fascist does to an extent.


Communism has never existed.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:49 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:State Capitalism? Several forms of Communism incorporate it and Fascist does to an extent.


Communism has never existed.

I said forms...
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