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Are people generally good or evil at heart?

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are people inherently

Good
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14%
evil
15
15%
Mostly good
47
47%
Mostly evil
25
25%
 
Total votes : 101

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Warinemachine
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Are people generally good or evil at heart?

Postby Warinemachine » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:42 pm

I mean if someone had no fear of reprisal do you think the average person would be a nice guy or go on a spree of rape looting and pillaging? I think the average person would do the latter. What about you?

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Postby Licana » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:44 pm

Where is the neither option?
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Postby Volnotova » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:44 pm

Based on my own morality: Mostly evil.
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Postby San Leggera » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:45 pm

Both and neither.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:45 pm

I don't particularly like terms as vague and open to interpretation as good and evil.
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Postby Warinemachine » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:46 pm

Licana wrote:Where is the neither option?

You believe people are fift-fifty good and evil? I mean what would you do if there was no fear of reprisal? Look at all the times that that happened. The Southern states with slavery. Rape was rampant.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:46 pm

Evil. From Christian and observant viewpoints.
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Postby Warinemachine » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:47 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:I don't particularly like terms as vague and open to interpretation as good and evil.

I mean would they loot/rape and to a lesser extent kill if they were given the chance without any sort of reprisal that might happen?

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Postby Nadkor » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:48 pm

I think that it's far too simplistic a thought process to characterise anything into "good" and "evil", let alone human beings,
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Postby New Sapienta » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:48 pm

The idea of good and evil varies from person to person.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:48 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Licana wrote:Where is the neither option?

You believe people are fift-fifty good and evil? I mean what would you do if there was no fear of reprisal? Look at all the times that that happened. The Southern states with slavery. Rape was rampant.

Source? Also, please don't pick out my home to represent the evility of humanity, as if it is the bastion of interracial rape and degeneracy.
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Postby Valkalan » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:48 pm

Good and evil are defined by the whims of the present social order. They vary amongst individuals, cultures, time periods, and contexts.

If you must use these terms, I believe that most people are neutral.
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Postby Winland » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:48 pm

I used to lean towards evil, but I've since changed my mind.
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Postby San Leggera » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:49 pm

Nadkor wrote:I think that it's far too simplistic a thought process to characterise anything into "good" and "evil", let alone human beings,

So evil is not truly evil as good is not truly good?
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:49 pm

Warinemachine wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:I don't particularly like terms as vague and open to interpretation as good and evil.

I mean would they loot/rape and to a lesser extent kill if they were given the chance without any sort of reprisal that might happen?

It depends on the person. It depends on the situation. There are never instances where you can predict with one hundred percent accuracy what any given person would do; to attempt to do so with entire societies is ludicrous.
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:49 pm

Yes.
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Postby Warinemachine » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:50 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:You believe people are fift-fifty good and evil? I mean what would you do if there was no fear of reprisal? Look at all the times that that happened. The Southern states with slavery. Rape was rampant.

Source? Also, please don't pick out my home to represent the evility of humanity, as if it is the bastion of interracial rape and degeneracy.

its not but even thomas jefferson did it. Honestly I probaly would in that situation. Most people in my opinion would.

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Postby Volnotova » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:50 pm

Volnotova wrote:Based on my own morality: Mostly evil.


To add to that, my own morals, not some universal ethical code (which I believe does not exist).
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Postby The United Thingys » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:50 pm

I judge, through my own personal view of good and evil, that it differs from person to person, and that it depends on upbringing and genetics, but that on average, people are little balls of shit.
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Postby Olthar » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:51 pm

"Good" and "evil" are subjective terms that mean virtually nothing in the grand scheme of things and should really never be used outside of fictional stories. However, for the purposes of this thread, I would say that people are generally more "good" than "evil." Society literally would not function if everyone was a self-serving asshole.
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Postby Manahakatouki » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:51 pm

That's a little bit of a silly question...

I mean, are people that two sided to be considered good or evil...?
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Postby Free Detroit » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:51 pm

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Postby Warinemachine » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:51 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Warinemachine wrote:I mean would they loot/rape and to a lesser extent kill if they were given the chance without any sort of reprisal that might happen?

It depends on the person. It depends on the situation. There are never instances where you can predict with one hundred percent accuracy what any given person would do; to attempt to do so with entire societies is ludicrous.

From your knoledge if there were no sort of reprisal.

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Postby Page » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:53 pm

What Orwell said "people want to be good, just not too good and not all the time."

Basically, I would have to think most people can relate to me and I to most people even if it doesn't always seem that way. Sometimes I'm selfish, sometimes I lie, sometimes I do things at the expense of others and sometimes I can be vindictive and spiteful. And evil in a fictional context can be enjoyable to watch, and even in a real context is damn fascinating if nothing else.

But beyond all that, at my core, I am really disgusted by anyone who exploits or victimizes innocent people, especially the powerful harming those they have power over, and I have a strong sense of justice. And overall, the love I feel for people who I really care about far exceeds any of my other emotions for better or worse.

I'd like to think I'm evil when it's fun and good when it matters.
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Postby Forster Keys » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:54 pm

People are people.
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