Zimbabwe's bloody farm invasions halted

[Meowfoundland]

I have a technical term for this argument.

What was it again....

Oh yeah! RACISM!

How is racist to point out that since Rhodesia became Zimbabwe the entire place has gone to shit?

Because it was done in such a way that it implied that it's gone to shit because the natives aren't intelligent?

[Meryuma]

It's an interesting news story. You can detect my initial opinion by reading what I've posted above. Anything to add?

Wait when the progressives come.

"But you have to understand Mugabe, he lived under racism back in Rhodesia. The white farmers are self faults because of what is hapening to them. They also destroyed Zimbabwe`s economy"

I've been coming to NSG for 2 and a half years and I think I've only heard one Mugabe apologist.

[Blazedtown]

How is racist to point out that since Rhodesia became Zimbabwe the entire place has gone to shit?

Because it was done in such a way that it implied that it's gone to shit because the natives aren't intelligent?

The ones in power aren't, that's for sure. Colonialism has its good points and its bad points.

[Greed and Death]

There was a need for land reform.
It should not have been accomplished in the manner it was attempted.
Taxes on large holdings, estate tax and optional government buy backs.

[Alowwvia]

There was a need for land reform.
It should not have been accomplished in the manner it was attempted.
Taxes on large holdings, estate tax and optional government buy backs.

This is typically not Khornate enough for your typical Warlord.

If it isn't state-run terrorism, it's typically not on the agenda in countries like this, be they in Africa or wherever.

[Meowfoundland]

Because it was done in such a way that it implied that it's gone to shit because the natives aren't intelligent?

The ones in power aren't, that's for sure. Colonialism has its good points and its bad points.

Obviously the people in charge in Zimbabwe at the moment are complete nincompoops. But claiming that it will never be prosperous because the "intelligent Europeans" left implies they are all unintelligent and they need those big strong clever whites to help them do anything.

[Scholencia]

They are not Europeans they are Africans as every person born there.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Good show. Southern Rhodesia used to be the Jewel of Africa. The natives' takeover was quite a shame; it ruined the country. Perhaps we shall see a return to prosperity now. Or, more likely not; all the intelligent Europeans left a long time ago.

Good intentions.

Shitty, shitty argument.

[Southern Patriots]

What are we discussing again?

The title is a hint.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Anyway, sub-Saharan Africa sucks.

This might make things slightly better, but Zimbabwe still sucks and is likely to suck considerably for the foreseeable future.

[Southern Patriots]

I have a technical term for this argument.

What was it again....

Oh yeah! RACISM!

Racism that was repeated ten times over when Mugabe went off the deep end.

Maybe it's something in the water.

Don't bother, Trots has an uninformed opinion on the matter.

I think this is an improvement, SA. My first cousin and his family still farm over in Zimbo-land. Luckily they've escaped having their land stolen by Mugabe and his thugs as of yet, and will hopefully avoid such a fate. Or at least last I heard from him everything was well.
Still, there is a long way to go. Mugabe and his ilk need to be removed so a real government can restore the country.

[Gauthier]

What's another sad note is that Bob Mugabe staged the farm takeovers only after he saw on CNN that white farm owners tended to support his political opponents.

[Galborg]

And here's me thinking Mugabe stopped confiscating Land after he got ALL of it.

Blacks are not intrinsically uneducated, Zimbabwe spends more money on the terrorism budget than the education budget.

[Gauthier]

And here's me thinking Mugabe stopped confiscating Land after he got ALL of it.

Blacks are not intrinsically uneducated, Zimbabwe spends more money on the terrorism budget than the education budget.

And that's before one takes into account Zimbabwe's GTFO inflation.

[Trotskylvania]

Racism that was repeated ten times over when Mugabe went off the deep end.

Maybe it's something in the water.

Don't bother, Trots has an uninformed opinion on the matter.

I think this is an improvement, SA. My first cousin and his family still farm over in Zimbo-land. Luckily they've escaped having their land stolen by Mugabe and his thugs as of yet, and will hopefully avoid such a fate. Or at least last I heard from him everything was well.
Still, there is a long way to go. Mugabe and his ilk need to be removed so a real government can restore the country.

Uh huh.

So I'm uninformed because someone rather clearly thinks that Zimbabwe went to shit because those darkies took over.

Log off, and go find some fucking sense.

[Southern Patriots]

Don't bother, Trots has an uninformed opinion on the matter.

I think this is an improvement, SA. My first cousin and his family still farm over in Zimbo-land. Luckily they've escaped having their land stolen by Mugabe and his thugs as of yet, and will hopefully avoid such a fate. Or at least last I heard from him everything was well.
Still, there is a long way to go. Mugabe and his ilk need to be removed so a real government can restore the country.

Uh huh.

So I'm uninformed because someone rather clearly thinks that Zimbabwe went to shit because those darkies took over.

Log off, and go find some fucking sense.

You're uninformed, for starters, because you ask what the topic of discussion is when it is pointed out in the title.

Be a smartass elsewhere, kid.

[Trotskylvania]

Uh huh.

So I'm uninformed because someone rather clearly thinks that Zimbabwe went to shit because those darkies took over.

Log off, and go find some fucking sense.

You're uninformed, for starters, because you ask what the topic of discussion is when it is pointed out in the title.

Be a smartass elsewhere, kid.

No, that was my smartass response to "Look at this horrible thing" type news that we get on NSG. In other words, I didn't find the topic particularly revelatory, because it serves no purpose beyond saying "Hey, Mugabe's a bastard", something we don't need an NSG topic to know about. There's nothing to discuss here.

Learn to internet better, kid.

[Suidwes-Afrika]

What's another sad note is that Bob Mugabe staged the farm takeovers only after he saw on CNN that white farm owners tended to support his political opponents.

Actually, it started in '97 when a few greedy old farts from the bush war days attacked him at a ZANU-PF rally for stopping short of "economic liberation". If he was to be doubly renowned as the great Marxian hero of Africa he believed he was, it was necessary to strike both a political and an economic blow against evil imperialists. Furthermore, he was only willing to endorse the voluntary redistribution of land as long as the UK financed it. But nobody wanted to keep feeding money into Bob's overseas bank accounts when he was doing absolutely nothing with the fertile tracts he'd already obtained from willing sellers.

Lastly, this zot needed a scapegoat to direct attention from his own failures. Healthcare and education standards crumbling, no free and fair elections, trivial shit like that.The fact that white Zimbos like Roy Bennet were courting the opposition was just icing on the cake.

[Southern Patriots]

You're uninformed, for starters, because you ask what the topic of discussion is when it is pointed out in the title.

Be a smartass elsewhere, kid.

No, that was my smartass response to "Look at this horrible thing" type news that we get on NSG. In other words, I didn't find the topic particularly revelatory, because it serves no purpose beyond saying "Hey, Mugabe's a bastard", something we don't need an NSG topic to know about. There's nothing to discuss here.

Then don't bother posting. Or is the need to feed your post count with spamming nonsense too great?

Be gone with you. Shoo! Find something that keeps your interest better.

[Trotskylvania]

No, that was my smartass response to "Look at this horrible thing" type news that we get on NSG. In other words, I didn't find the topic particularly revelatory, because it serves no purpose beyond saying "Hey, Mugabe's a bastard", something we don't need an NSG topic to know about. There's nothing to discuss here.

Then don't bother posting. Or is the need to feed your post count with spamming nonsense too great?

Be gone with you. Shoo! Find something that keeps your interest better.

I find it rather cute that you still take this place seriously, boychik.

[Southern Patriots]

Then don't bother posting. Or is the need to feed your post count with spamming nonsense too great?

Be gone with you. Shoo! Find something that keeps your interest better.

I find it rather cute that you still take this place seriously, boychik.

At least you've found something to discuss. Me! Why bother respecting the OP and the topic? Is this thread still boring to you, or do you have anything to add? You could blather on about something, I'm certain.

What's another sad note is that Bob Mugabe staged the farm takeovers only after he saw on CNN that white farm owners tended to support his political opponents.

Actually, it started in '97 when a few greedy old farts from the bush war days attacked him at a ZANU-PF rally for stopping short of "economic liberation". If he was to be doubly renowned as the great Marxian hero of Africa he believed he was, it was necessary to strike both a political and an economic blow against evil imperialists. Furthermore, he was only willing to endorse the voluntary redistribution of land as long as the UK financed it. But nobody wanted to keep feeding money into Bob's overseas bank accounts when he was doing absolutely nothing with the fertile tracts he'd already obtained from willing sellers.

Lastly, this zot needed a scapegoat to direct attention from his own failures. Healthcare and education standards crumbling, no free and fair elections, trivial shit like that.The fact that white Zimbos like Roy Bennet were courting the opposition was just icing on the cake.

True, true. He made promises to his terrorist followers for land, and eventually they'd turn on him if he did nothing. Even though he wanted successful white farmers to remain (at least at first).

[Suidwes-Afrika]

You're uninformed, for starters, because you ask what the topic of discussion is when it is pointed out in the title.

Be a smartass elsewhere, kid.

No, that was my smartass response to "Look at this horrible thing" type news that we get on NSG. In other words, I didn't find the topic particularly revelatory, because it serves no purpose beyond saying "Hey, Mugabe's a bastard", something we don't need an NSG topic to know about. There's nothing to discuss here.

Well, to be fair, NSG dictates the OP make his opinion clear when he takes the initiative. I do think Mugabe's a jolly fine bastard, so I stated that in so many words while recounting the history of Zim's land reform for the uneducated sods we always hanging around NSG's cobwebbed dungeons.

Furthermore, the fact that Mugabe's relenting on the farms is worth noting, hey?

[Southern Patriots]

Furthermore, the fact that Mugabe's relenting on the farms is worth noting, hey?

I was going to say, "He's not a complete idiot," but I'm not certain if that would be accurate. At the very least he is aware the financial and political situation could (somehow) get worse by continuing to steal land and murder people.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Furthermore, the fact that Mugabe's relenting on the farms is worth noting, hey?

I was going to say, "He's not a complete idiot," but I'm not certain if that would be accurate. At the very least he is aware the financial and political situation could (somehow) get worse by continuing to steal land and murder people.

He was a former schoolteacher.

I do hope it wasn't in economics.

[Southern Patriots]

I was going to say, "He's not a complete idiot," but I'm not certain if that would be accurate. At the very least he is aware the financial and political situation could (somehow) get worse by continuing to steal land and murder people.

He was a former schoolteacher.

I do hope it wasn't in economics.

Very good, I think I will sig that. I'd say his book knowledge doesn't always shine out.