US weighing military options if Syria uses WMD

[Sardine World]

5$ the US will use a false flag tactic to get involve.

Hell, if Bush was able to convince an entire nation about Iraq, Obama will have no problem beating the war drums for Syria.

It will be touted as a great example of bi-partisanship because the Republicans are even more eager to go in.

Im a musty old Consevative, and I am opposed to intervening in Syria.

[Shofercia]

I would agree with it, but no full on invasion. Targeting bombings, unmanned aerial assaults, etc. yes, putting boots on the ground? No.

That may be the only option to secure the stockpiles once they are found. Destroying them in an uncontrolled manner would just lead to contamination of the surrounding area, which would be horrible even if they weren't located inside a populated area (which they would be), and if any survive they could easily be salvaged and transported elsewhere for use by Assad or his allies.

Launching an attack on the stockpiles will cause Assad to use those stockpiles.

I don't care what side people support, using WMDs goes to far, and if anyone does, they lose any remaining legitimacy they have left in my eyes.

Thank you Captain Obvious!

If we're going to invade Syria can we quit pussyfooting around and just come out and say we're invading Syria?

Assad said that if US hits Syria, he'll use WMDs. And unlike Saddam, he has WMDs.

One might think the US get the lesson from Moqtada al-Sadr's milicia in Iraq. The FSA is pretty much the same thing, you don't know who you're dealing with. A brutal secular regime is still better than an islamist brutal regime.

But, but, but, some rebels said that they support democracy, which means that the West must aid them at any costs, otherwise we might not aid these poor, poor snake oil salesmen, and then what? You won't have ethnic cleansing! Are you happy?! /sarcasm

Nah. The Russians are more than capable of preventing the US from getting official UN permission.

We'll still be going in with the world at our back. If Syria uses chemical weapons and Russia opposes intervention, what little international influence they have left will be dead, mark my words.

Russia said that they won't back Syria if there's clear proof, i.e. real NASA satellite photos, that Syria used WMDs.

Syria to US: "We won't use chemical weps, unless you intervene!"
US to Syria: "If you use chemical weps, we'll intervene!"

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

Indeed.

Syria to US: "We won't use chemical weps, unless you intervene!"
US to Syria: "If you use chemical weps, we'll intervene!"

Then Assad's regime has nothing to worry about, hmm?

The problem is two-fold. First, will US try covert ops, i.e. sending in Special Forces a la Delta Force. Second, how will Syria define US Intervention. Would Delta Force be enough?

[The Republic of Lanos]

The problem is two-fold. First, will US try covert ops, i.e. sending in Special Forces a la Delta Force. Second, how will Syria define US Intervention. Would Delta Force be enough?

The trick is that how would they know Delta Force did it in the first place.

[Khodoristan]

We can't afford to go to war. It'll mess up our economy even more than now.

Pfft, please. Go back to economics class.

[Tmutarakhan]

5$ the US will use a false flag tactic to get involve.

Why? Nobody in the US has any desire to get involved in another Mideast clusterfuck.

[Conserative Morality]

Russia said that they won't back Syria if there's clear proof, i.e. real NASA satellite photos, that Syria used WMDs.

We'll see if they keep to that.

The problem is two-fold. First, will US try covert ops, i.e. sending in Special Forces a la Delta Force. Second, how will Syria define US Intervention. Would Delta Force be enough?

The answer is: It's irrelevant, because you can't prove a thing!

Not that it particularly matters. "But they interfered with our business!" is not a justification for "We'll murder huge swathes of people with illegal weapons!", so I can't imagine Assad's regime lasting long in either case.

[Khodoristan]

5$ the US will use a false flag tactic to get involve.

Why? Nobody in the US has any desire to get involved in another Mideast clusterfuck.

Tbh, I can see the French or British taking more active roles in military intervention, kinda how they did with Libya.

[The Old South]

The problem is two-fold. First, will US try covert ops, i.e. sending in Special Forces a la Delta Force. Second, how will Syria define US Intervention. Would Delta Force be enough?

The trick is that how would they know Delta Force did it in the first place.

Probably an educated guess that it's either Delta Force or Mossad.

[Shofercia]

The problem is two-fold. First, will US try covert ops, i.e. sending in Special Forces a la Delta Force. Second, how will Syria define US Intervention. Would Delta Force be enough?

The trick is that how would they know Delta Force did it in the first place.

The rebels suddenly start winning victories using tactics that they've never used before, tactics which were previously used by the Delta Force in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.

That's why in Libya, NATO did the smart thing and trucked in the Berbers. However, NATO did send in a detachment to catch Ghadaffi a bit later, and then that tape became rather infamous, so...

[Pope Joan]

This sounds just like the garbage we were fed prior to our (useless) invasion of Iraq.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

[Hardened Pyrokinetics]

The problem is two-fold. First, will US try covert ops, i.e. sending in Special Forces a la Delta Force. Second, how will Syria define US Intervention. Would Delta Force be enough?

The trick is that how would they know Delta Force did it in the first place.

And Navy SEALs. And JTF2. And SAS. And NZSAS. And GROM. And...

Shall I continue?

[Khodoristan]

The trick is that how would they know Delta Force did it in the first place.

The rebels suddenly start winning victories using tactics that they've never used before, tactics which were previously used by the Delta Force in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.

Bullshit. The Jordanians or Turks start arming them and equipping them.

[Quebec and Atlantic Canada]

5$ the US will use a false flag tactic to get involve.

Hell, if Bush was able to convince an entire nation about Iraq, Obama will have no problem beating the war drums for Syria.

It will be touted as a great example of bi-partisanship because the Republicans are even more eager to go in.

Indeed. The United $nakes, as the principal leader of the kkkapitalist First World, is the primary exploiter and warmonger in the world. All of its politicians take orders from corporations. Hence, the Republican and Democratic party are no different, as they are both capitalist puppets who seek to further the capitalists' agenda of war, death, and destruction.

[Khodoristan]

The trick is that how would they know Delta Force did it in the first place.

And Navy SEALs. And JTF2. And SAS. And NZSAS. And GROM. And...

Shall I continue?

Medal of Honor: Warfighter isn't real life.

[The Republic of Lanos]

The trick is that how would they know Delta Force did it in the first place.

And Navy SEALs. And JTF2. And SAS. And NZSAS. And GROM. And...

Shall I continue?

It's the Israelis. (first guess)

[Hardened Pyrokinetics]

And Navy SEALs. And JTF2. And SAS. And NZSAS. And GROM. And...

Shall I continue?

Medal of Honor: Warfighter isn't real life.

No, it isn't.

But Tier 1 is Tier 1 for a reason.

[Conserative Morality]

This sounds just like the garbage we were fed prior to our (useless) invasion of Iraq.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

"If chemical weapons are used, we'll intervene"?

That doesn't sound like Iraq, actually. At all.

[Lowell Leber]

I would agree with it, but no full on invasion. Targeting bombings, unmanned aerial assaults, etc. yes, putting boots on the ground? No.

There is no difference between bombings and invasions. They are both ways in which the First World continues its genocidal war against the Third World, and that is all that matters.

Ironic that you protest the so called genocide committed by the First World against the Third World, yet use the flag of a fictional dictatorship as your flag. Hmmm.?

[Khodoristan]

Medal of Honor: Warfighter isn't real life.

No, it isn't.

But Tier 1 is Tier 1 for a reason.

Operation Eagle Claw ring any bells?

[Shofercia]

Russia said that they won't back Syria if there's clear proof, i.e. real NASA satellite photos, that Syria used WMDs.

We'll see if they keep to that.

The problem is two-fold. First, will US try covert ops, i.e. sending in Special Forces a la Delta Force. Second, how will Syria define US Intervention. Would Delta Force be enough?

The answer is: It's irrelevant, because you can't prove a thing!

Not that it particularly matters. "But they interfered with our business!" is not a justification for "We'll murder huge swathes of people with illegal weapons!", so I can't imagine Assad's regime lasting long in either case.

Thing is, if Assad thinks he's fucked, why won't he use WMDs?

The trick is that how would they know Delta Force did it in the first place.

And Navy SEALs. And JTF2. And SAS. And NZSAS. And GROM. And...

Shall I continue?

You knew what I meant. SEALs, Delta, SAS, etc.

The rebels suddenly start winning victories using tactics that they've never used before, tactics which were previously used by the Delta Force in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.

Bullshit. The Jordanians or Turks start arming them and equipping them.

That's been going on for the past several months.

[Saruhan]

No, it isn't.

But Tier 1 is Tier 1 for a reason.

Operation Eagle Claw ring any bells?

Entebbe? We can play this game all day

[Quebec and Atlantic Canada]

There is no difference between bombings and invasions. They are both ways in which the First World continues its genocidal war against the Third World, and that is all that matters.

Ironic that you protest the so called genocide committed by the First World against the Third World, yet use the flag of a fictional dictatorship as your flag. Hmmm.?

Fictional matters are irrelevant. This is the real world, with real atrocities being committed as part of a very real genocidal war against the people of the Third World.

[Tunasai]

If Syria starts using WMDs then its time to crush Assad

I would be proud of Obama if he did that, and I'm a Conservative Republican

[Pope Joan]

This sounds just like the garbage we were fed prior to our (useless) invasion of Iraq.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

"If chemical weapons are used, we'll intervene"?

That doesn't sound like Iraq, actually. At all.

Who is creating this bogus chemical weapons agenda?

And Assad says all he can say, which is, we don't have them and even if we did we wouldn't use them. Except maybe against Turks.

[Conserative Morality]

Thing is, if Assad thinks he's fucked, why won't he use WMDs?

He's already fucked; he just doesn't know it.

I imagine when it becomes clear to him that he's going to lose against these rebels, he'll break out everything in a last ditch effort to stop them. Maybe he won't. Maybe he has some human decency still left.

But my money is on him freaking out and ordering chemical weapons to be used regardless of interventions if the balance of power starts to tilt against him more clearly.