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Postby Menassa » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:12 am

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Care to provide a source?


My source is history itself.

To wit: One can argue that, for better or for worse, Christianity has shaped modern civilization.

The Bible talks A LOT about homosexuality. Christ himself doesn't, mind you, but the Bible does. Without something to demonize, the bible becomes less effective.

Cleopatra is believed to be bisexual or possibly pansexual. Without Cleopatra's sexual nature, the entire course of ancient history would have drastically changed.

Sappho of Lesbos, yes that's a real person, was a lesbian and was a massive contributor to Greek literature.

Homosexuality was practiced often in Rome and Japan, to economic and social success. Thus there societies would suffer without.

Lawrence of Arabia is believed to be homosexual, and that the incompatibility with this was his reason for volunteering for duty in a region where he did not believe he would be persecuted. We may have well lost WWI without Lawrence of Arabia.

With different history comes a different present.

Just another addendum...... the bible wouldn't use such strong language if it didn't believe homosexuality was a threat to the people (these people of course being Ancient Israelites) meaning homosexuality was around and it was scary (to them)....... but for some reason pedophilia wasn't.
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Postby Indira » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:15 am

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Ereria wrote:I think that a man marries with another man, is a wrong. Im too lazy to explain why right now, so I will proably come back next day to edit it. But I think Woman on Woman is just fine because they atleast can have babies (And its hot)


Talk about hypocrisy. Because you find female to female sex "hot" "is fine", but not male to male ? Pray tell, how do two females make a baby ?


I think it's meant to be a parody post

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Postby Falcia » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:16 am

I think plenty of people sufficiently bashed your logos. I would like to use a more pathos approach though and point out that your rhetoric is quite hurtful. Homosexuals don't need another person telling them there is something wrong with them. I hope other people counter some of the stereo types you pointed to. I have tons of research contradicting a lot of your "evidence."

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Postby San Leggera » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:16 am

Indira wrote:
Thaipursia wrote:
Talk about hypocrisy. Because you find female to female sex "hot" "is fine", but not male to male ? Pray tell, how do two females make a baby ?


I think it's meant to be a parody post

Not to mention that the OP is obviously a puppet.
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Postby Khanastan » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:16 am

I conccur with the pro-gay people in this thread. Also has given no first hand account of HIS EXPLAINATION OF WHY GAY PEOPLE ARE THE BANE OF SOCITEY.

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Postby Allied States of Demokratia » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:17 am

stop feeding the trolls (The preceeding statement has been retracted). It appears to me the guy created a nation just to piss people off... look at his time stamp.

Regardless, there is no threat that I percieve.
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Postby Thaipursia » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:18 am

Why even the debate about something that is inherent in our biology ? You can condemn homosexuality all you want, but the fact is, it will remain with our species, as long as we exist. I am tired of hearing others arguing against my existence, labelling a whole subset of humans as "immoral" or "deviant". To quote Shakespeare, "Have I not eyes to see, or ears to hear ? If you prick me, do I not bleed ?"
Homosexuality is no more a threat to others, than being a redhead, hexdactyl, or left handed. For once let's argue about how Heterosexuals caused so many wars, created the atomic bomb, instigated and pushed genocide, etc. Once you can absolve yourselves of that, then you vcan get all upset about two men/ two women kissing in public.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:18 am

Should Exterminatus this thread.

We have arrived, and it is now that we perform our charge.

In fealty to the God-Emperor (our undying Lord) and by the Grace of the Golden Throne, I declare Exterminatus upon this thread.

I hereby sign the death warrant of an entire world and consign a million souls to oblivion.

May Imperial Justice account in all balance.

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Postby Condunum » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:19 am

Allied States of Demokratia wrote:stop feeding the trolls the guy created a nation just to piss people off... look at his time stamp

It's not feeding if you're having fun. Also, read this.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:19 am

Samuraikoku wrote:Should Exterminatus this thread.

We have arrived, and it is now that we perform our charge.

In fealty to the God-Emperor (our undying Lord) and by the Grace of the Golden Throne, I declare Exterminatus upon this thread.

I hereby sign the death warrant of an entire world and consign a million souls to oblivion.

May Imperial Justice account in all balance.

The Emperor Protects.


*nods*


Not even the Tau empire can find use for this thread.
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Postby Allied States of Demokratia » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:20 am

Condunum wrote:
Allied States of Demokratia wrote:stop feeding the trolls the guy created a nation just to piss people off... look at his time stamp

It's not feeding if you're having fun. Also, read this.

Missed the memo, Statement retracted.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:20 am

Samuraikoku wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Magic.


Baby-making isn't magic.

Friendship is magic.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:21 am

Alexander the Great, Da Vinci, Michaelangelo, Walt Whitman, Tchaikovsky, Rimbaud, Oscar Wilde, Keynes, Nijinsky, Jean Cocteau, Cole Porter, Sergei Eisenstein, Noel Coward, Langston Hughes, Christopher Isherwood, Laurence Olivier, W.H. Auden, Quentin Crisp, Tennessee Williams, Alan Turing (without whom we wouldn't be having this conversation), Raymond Burr, Leonard Bernstein, Malcolm Forbes, James Baldwin, Truman Capote, Gore Vidal, Rock Hudson, Allen Ginsberg, Edward Albee, Harvey Milk, Stephen Sondheim, Ram Dass, Tab Hunter, Anthony Perkins, Robert Reed, Rip Taylor, Van Cliburn, George Takei, Nureyev, Terrence McNally, Tommy Tune, Graham Chapman, David Ogden Stiers, David Geffen, David Gerrold, Freddy Mercury, Gianni Versace, Elton John, Clive Barker, Gus van Sant, Tim Gunn, Harvey Fierstein, Marc Almond, Nathan Lane, Neil Patrick Harris.

List not exhaustive.

All gay or bisexual men.

And all obviously a threat to the foundations of civilization itself, right?

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Postby Neo Art » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:21 am

Samuraikoku wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Magic.


Baby-making isn't magic.

Friendship is magic.


You were cool with the 40k stuff but this MLP shit has gone too far.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:21 am

Thaipursia wrote:Why even the debate about something that is inherent in our biology ? You can condemn homosexuality all you want, but the fact is, it will remain with our species, as long as we exist. I am tired of hearing others arguing against my existence, labelling a whole subset of humans as "immoral" or "deviant". To quote Shakespeare, "Have I not eyes to see, or ears to hear ? If you prick me, do I not bleed ?"
Homosexuality is no more a threat to others, than being a redhead, hexdactyl, or left handed. For once let's argue about how Heterosexuals caused so many wars, created the atomic bomb, instigated and pushed genocide, etc. Once you can absolve yourselves of that, then you vcan get all upset about two men/ two women kissing in public.

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Postby Condunum » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:22 am

Allied States of Demokratia wrote:
Condunum wrote:It's not feeding if you're having fun. Also, read this.

Missed the memo, Statement retracted.

Golden rule: always check the announcements before you begin.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:24 am

Neo Art wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
Baby-making isn't magic.

Friendship is magic.


You were cool with the 40k stuff but this MLP shit has gone too far.


Ironic considering I'm not a brony. :p

Insofar, I've only made that reference twice, counting this one.

Edit: No, wait. Posting history says three times.
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Postby Death Metal » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:24 am

Condunum wrote:
Not even the Tau empire can find use for this thread.


Not true. I did just prove that homosexuality helped shape our current society by virtue of it's existence and several notable historical figures being homosexual.

Hell, the possibility of a completely heterosexual Cleopatra not being a sex hound alone has all sorts of crazy Butterfly Effect scenarios to it.
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Postby Allied States of Demokratia » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:26 am

Condunum wrote:
Allied States of Demokratia wrote:Missed the memo, Statement retracted.

Golden rule: always check the announcements before you begin.


Point taken, I just clicked on the "Latest Forum Topic" on the left.
Thanks for the heads up
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Postby Reznovs world » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:26 am

if your talking about women its o.k. but its wrong with guys

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:27 am

Reznovs world wrote:if youryou're talking about women its o.k. but its wrong with guys

Why?
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:27 am

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You're for fuck's sake.

Sorry, I just couldn't hold that in any longer.

Your right, people need to be more careful with there spelling.
Seriously though, I was about to say something until I saw that you did.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:28 am

Do NOT recruit me your region wrote:... I think it is time for people to stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. If we keep on thinking it is okay then we are on a slippery slope to where we would soon be thinking that zoophilia, pedophilia, and heck even necrophilia are okay. ...


And if we keep on thinking that such posts are the products of rational thought and maybe even significative, then we are on a slippery slope to where we would soon be thinking that Minju Choson and heck even Faux News are legitimate news sources...
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Postby Menassa » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:28 am

Reznovs world wrote:if your talking about women its o.k. but its wrong with guys

Por que?
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Postby Death Metal » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:29 am

Risottia wrote:
Do NOT recruit me your region wrote:... I think it is time for people to stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. If we keep on thinking it is okay then we are on a slippery slope to where we would soon be thinking that zoophilia, pedophilia, and heck even necrophilia are okay. ...


And if we keep on thinking that such posts are the products of rational thought and maybe even significative, then we are on a slippery slope to where we would soon be thinking that Minju Choson and heck even Faux News are legitimate news sources...


And then what? Infowars gets taken seriously? *shudder*
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