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Postby Abatael » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:23 pm

Risottia wrote:
Condunum wrote:*ahem* trust me, there is some personal harm that comes from being a sexually-active homosexual male.
Speaking from experience, here.

Being lovesick isn't exactly a worrying personal harm, buster. Grow a skin! Claiming it is would be SOOO gay... oh... wait... :D


You can experience bodily harm from participating in homosexual acts.

For example, by participating in anal sex, one can experience anodyspareunia, diseases such as HIV, HPV, amoebiasis, chlamydia, cryptosporidiosis, E. coli infections, giardiasis, gonorrhea, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, herpes simplex, Kaposi's sarcoma-associated herpesvirus (HHV-8), lymphogranuloma venereum, Mycoplasma hominis, Mycoplasma genitalium, pubic lice, salmonellosis, shigella; syphilis, tuberculosis, and Ureaplasma urealyticum, the chances of anal cancer, a relatively rare cancer, drastically increases, and physical damage to the rectum, and anus can manifest as generalized ano-rectal trauma, anal fissures, rectal prolapse, and exacerbating hemorrhoids.

Edit: Or, rather, the chances of contracting such diseases are increased.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:26 pm

Abatael wrote:
Risottia wrote:Being lovesick isn't exactly a worrying personal harm, buster. Grow a skin! Claiming it is would be SOOO gay... oh... wait... :D


You can experience bodily harm from participating in homosexual acts.

For example, by participating in anal sex, one can experience anodyspareunia, diseases such as HIV, HPV, amoebiasis, chlamydia, cryptosporidiosis, E. coli infections, giardiasis, gonorrhea, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, herpes simplex, Kaposi's sarcoma-associated herpesvirus (HHV-8), lymphogranuloma venereum, Mycoplasma hominis, Mycoplasma genitalium, pubic lice, salmonellosis, shigella; syphilis, tuberculosis, and Ureaplasma urealyticum, the chances of anal cancer, a relatively rare cancer, drastically increases, and physical damage to the rectum, and anus can manifest as generalized ano-rectal trauma, anal fissures, rectal prolapse, and exacerbating hemorrhoids.

Edit: Or, rather, the chances of contracting such diseases are increased.


Are you aware that anal sex isn't exclusively restricted to homosexual intercourses?
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Postby CTALNH » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:27 pm

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CTALNH wrote: Ban this homophobe now

Why? Just because he has retarded views doesn't warrant a ban.
Slander against the LGBT community is more than enough reason to ban him
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Postby Rocopurr » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:28 pm

FYI, you can experience bodily harm through heterosexual acts too. Some heterosexual couples do anal, BDSM, etc.
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Postby Abatael » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:28 pm

Risottia wrote:
Abatael wrote:
You can experience bodily harm from participating in homosexual acts.

For example, by participating in anal sex, one can experience anodyspareunia, diseases such as HIV, HPV, amoebiasis, chlamydia, cryptosporidiosis, E. coli infections, giardiasis, gonorrhea, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, hepatitis C, herpes simplex, Kaposi's sarcoma-associated herpesvirus (HHV-8), lymphogranuloma venereum, Mycoplasma hominis, Mycoplasma genitalium, pubic lice, salmonellosis, shigella; syphilis, tuberculosis, and Ureaplasma urealyticum, the chances of anal cancer, a relatively rare cancer, drastically increases, and physical damage to the rectum, and anus can manifest as generalized ano-rectal trauma, anal fissures, rectal prolapse, and exacerbating hemorrhoids.

Edit: Or, rather, the chances of contracting such diseases are increased.


Are you aware that anal sex isn't exclusively restricted to homosexual intercourses?
I guess not.


I never said anal sex is exclusive to homosexuals. I was aware.

You guessed incorrectly.
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Postby Abatael » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:28 pm

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Nazi States of Europe wrote:Why? Just because he has retarded views doesn't warrant a ban.
Slander against the LGBT community is more than enough reason to ban him


No, it's not.
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Postby Nazi States of Europe » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:29 pm

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Nazi States of Europe wrote:Why? Just because he has retarded views doesn't warrant a ban.
Slander against the LGBT community is more than enough reason to ban him

Maybe to you.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:30 pm

Abatael wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Are you aware that anal sex isn't exclusively restricted to homosexual intercourses?
I guess not.


I never said anal sex is exclusive to homosexuals. I was aware.

You guessed incorrectly.


And (shocker!) maybe you know that homosexual intercourses do not REQUIRE anal sex.

Then you would also know your point has absolutely no meaning. Hence, you must be missing some link.
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Postby Turan Federasyonu » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:32 pm

Which threat of homosexuality is this? 115th?

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Postby United States of Natan » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:32 pm

Do NOT recruit me your region wrote:Now don't get me wrong I am actually pretty liberal although I just so happen to disagree with most liberals on the issue of LGBT rights. I don't believe that homosexuality is a good thing. In fact I believe that the evidence that homosexuality and lesbianism are dangerous to society is overwhelming. HIV/AIDS rates and other STD rates are much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community and LGBT people are much more likely to sexual promiscuous and domestic violence is much higher among same-sex couples. I just don't understand why we should consider homosexuality okay and normal. As for it happening among animals well rape, theft, and murder have been observed among animals so should be consider those to be okay too? I think it is time for people to stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. If we keep on thinking it is okay then we are on a slippery slope to where we would soon be thinking that zoophilia, pedophilia, and heck even necrophilia are okay. In the early 90's in San Fransisco there was an LGBT riot outside a church were the LGBT people performed sexual acts outside the church and even reportedly shouted "give us your children" to the church members and they harassed the church members. Here are a few of my sources.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/Newsroom/msm ... lease.html

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... d_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8838474

there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. and also, don't even think about saying that it says that it is wrong in the christian bible, because I am not christian.
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Postby Demen 2 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:32 pm

Reznovs world wrote:if your talking about women its o.k. but its wrong with guys

No it isn't. It's perfectly normal.
It's fine for both genders.
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Postby Abatael » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:33 pm

Risottia wrote:
Abatael wrote:
I never said anal sex is exclusive to homosexuals. I was aware.

You guessed incorrectly.


And (shocker!) maybe you know that homosexual intercourses do not REQUIRE anal sex.

Then you would also know your point has absolutely no meaning. Hence, you must be missing some link.


I never said homosexual intercourse requires anal sex, and I used anal sex as an example, hence the word "example" being there.

The point is that homosexual acts do have potential to harm the body; something the person I quoted suggested was not there.

Maybe you should read before you run your mouth.

Edit: A précis of what happened:

Condunum said that being homosexually active is personally harmful.
You said that being "lovesick" is not a form of worrying personal harm.
I pointed out that other forms besides being "lovesick" can happen, and gave examples.
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Postby Unified Provinces » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:33 pm

Do NOT recruit me your region wrote:Now don't get me wrong I am actually pretty liberal although I just so happen to disagree with most liberals on the issue of LGBT rights. I don't believe that homosexuality is a good thing. In fact I believe that the evidence that homosexuality and lesbianism are dangerous to society is overwhelming. HIV/AIDS rates and other STD rates are much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community and LGBT people are much more likely to sexual promiscuous and domestic violence is much higher among same-sex couples. I just don't understand why we should consider homosexuality okay and normal. As for it happening among animals well rape, theft, and murder have been observed among animals so should be consider those to be okay too? I think it is time for people to stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. If we keep on thinking it is okay then we are on a slippery slope to where we would soon be thinking that zoophilia, pedophilia, and heck even necrophilia are okay. In the early 90's in San Fransisco there was an LGBT riot outside a church were the LGBT people performed sexual acts outside the church and even reportedly shouted "give us your children" to the church members and they harassed the church members. Here are a few of my sources.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/Newsroom/msm ... lease.html

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... d_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8838474


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Postby Cold Coast » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:34 pm

Abatael wrote:
Risottia wrote:
And (shocker!) maybe you know that homosexual intercourses do not REQUIRE anal sex.

Then you would also know your point has absolutely no meaning. Hence, you must be missing some link.


I never said homosexual intercourse requires anal sex, and I used anal sex as an example, hence the word "example" being there.

The point is that homosexual acts do have potential to harm the body; something the person I quoted suggested was not there.

Maybe you should read before you run your mouth.


With that ridiculous point of view, all sex should be banned then and not just homosexual. Heterosexual can cause bodily harm too.

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Postby Vettrera » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:34 pm

Reznovs world wrote:if your talking about women its o.k. but its wrong with guys

And how did you come to that conclusion?
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Postby Condunum » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:36 pm

Risottia wrote:
Condunum wrote:*ahem* trust me, there is some personal harm that comes from being a sexually-active homosexual male.
Speaking from experience, here.

Being lovesick isn't exactly a worrying personal harm, buster. Grow a skin! Claiming it is would be SOOO gay... oh... wait... :D

Not what I mean, but... Hey, wait a second! That is so a worrying personal harm! Your comment has russtled my jimmes.

Khadgar wrote:
Condunum wrote:*ahem* trust me, there is some personal harm that comes from being a sexually-active homosexual male.
Speaking from experience, here.


Okay, assuming your boyfriend isn't hung like a telephone pole there's no personal harm. Bigger is only better in porn stories, in reality it's just uncomfortable.

He wouldn't have to be "hung like a telephone pole" to hurt.
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Postby Unified Provinces » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:37 pm

Abatael wrote:
Risottia wrote:
And (shocker!) maybe you know that homosexual intercourses do not REQUIRE anal sex.

Then you would also know your point has absolutely no meaning. Hence, you must be missing some link.


I never said homosexual intercourse requires anal sex, and I used anal sex as an example, hence the word "example" being there.

The point is that homosexual acts do have potential to harm the body; something the person I quoted suggested was not there.

Maybe you should read before you run your mouth.


Heterosexual sex can also be harmful as someone else pointed out. AIDS isn't limited to only homosexuals.
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Postby Abatael » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:37 pm

Cold Coast wrote:
Abatael wrote:
I never said homosexual intercourse requires anal sex, and I used anal sex as an example, hence the word "example" being there.

The point is that homosexual acts do have potential to harm the body; something the person I quoted suggested was not there.

Maybe you should read before you run your mouth.


With that ridiculous point of view, all sex should be banned then and not just homosexual. Heterosexual can cause bodily harm too.


I don't believe I ever said heterosexual sex cannot cause harm, or that homosexual sex should be banned, because of the harm it can cause.
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Postby Vettrera » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:38 pm

And for the sake of suggestion:

Gays and Straights can both be abstinent

If they then enter into a monogamous relationship, the threat of AIDS isn't really there, now is i?

Are suggesting that gays are more horny is BS as well
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Postby Abatael » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:38 pm

Unified Provinces wrote:
Abatael wrote:
I never said homosexual intercourse requires anal sex, and I used anal sex as an example, hence the word "example" being there.

The point is that homosexual acts do have potential to harm the body; something the person I quoted suggested was not there.

Maybe you should read before you run your mouth.


Heterosexual sex can also be harmful as someone else pointed out. AIDS isn't limited to only homosexuals.


Have I said otherwise?
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Postby Condunum » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:38 pm

Turan Federasyonu wrote:Which threat of homosexuality is this? 115th?

It's threat number 66.
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Postby Condunum » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:40 pm

Abatael wrote:
Risottia wrote:
And (shocker!) maybe you know that homosexual intercourses do not REQUIRE anal sex.

Then you would also know your point has absolutely no meaning. Hence, you must be missing some link.


I never said homosexual intercourse requires anal sex, and I used anal sex as an example, hence the word "example" being there.

The point is that homosexual acts do have potential to harm the body; something the person I quoted suggested was not there.

Maybe you should read before you run your mouth.

Edit: A précis of what happened:

Condunum said that being homosexually active is personally harmful.
You said that being "lovesick" is not a form of worrying personal harm.
I pointed out that other forms besides being "lovesick" can happen, and gave examples.


I said it jokingly. I was referencing the superficial harm that can arise from first experiencing anal sex.

The harm you have presented is not necessarily any reason to not be active, it just means you shouldn't be careless.
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Then what are you trying to argue then?
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Postby Condunum » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:41 pm

Unified Provinces wrote:Then what are you trying to argue then?

He's saying be careful.
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