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Should the USA lifts its restrcitions on Cuba?

Postby Timmy City » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:20 pm

Do you guys think the usa, should lift all its restrictions on Cuba?
I think to a point, but not all of them.
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Postby Hesse » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:50 pm

Why would the USA want to lift its restrictions on Cuba?

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Postby TaQud » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:51 pm

Hesse wrote:Why would the USA want to lift its restrictions on Cuba?

things have change since then? (basically the age of the situation is getting old)
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Postby Takaram » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:52 pm

Yes, we should. The Cold War is over, and a single nation embargo is useless. If you want to end the Castro regime and bring democratizing influences to Cuba, let American culture do it's thing.

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Postby North California » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:53 pm

Takaram wrote:Yes, we should. The Cold War is over, and a single nation embargo is useless. If you want to end the Castro regime and bring democratizing influences to Cuba, let American culture do it's thing.


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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:58 pm

I've never understood why we continue to embargo Cuba when every other Communist-aligned nation that opened up to our markets eventually adopted some form of free market reforms. Well, I know (the exile movement is politically powerful), but it makes no practical sense whatsoever.

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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:02 pm

Timmy City wrote:Do you guys think the usa, should lift all its restrictions on Cuba?

I think we should. The political situation has changed, our acceptance of trade with other 'communist' countries makes this abundantly clear, and it would be to our benefit to open up immigration from Cuba for those who wish to re-unite with their families in a more accessible way. I cannot think of any serious negative consequences that would come with associating more closely with Cuba now that we're over twenty years away from the end of the Cold War.
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Postby Rio Cana » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:05 pm

Yes. Afterall, the US has ties to Communist Vietnam and Communist China. US losses in Vietnam were over 50000 troops. US also had losses fighting the Chinese in Korea. While in Cuba no troop losses.

Things are changing. In that new organization called CELAC (Community of Latin American and Caribbean States) Cuba is a member of this Americas organization which will not let the US or Canada become members.
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Postby Seleucas » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:11 pm

Absolutely; restricting voluntary exchange really doesn't make anyone better off, and restricting trade with Cuba just makes that nation's people worse off than before.
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Postby Takaram » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:11 pm

Rio Cana wrote:Yes. Afterall, the US has ties to Communist Vietnam and Communist China. US losses in Vietnam were over 50000 troops. US also had losses fighting the Chinese in Korea. While in Cuba no troop losses.

Things are changing. In that new organization called CELAC (Community of Latin American and Caribbean States) Cuba is a member of this Americas organization which will not let the US or Canada become members.


Why would Canada join that group?

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Postby Capitolinium » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:18 pm

Should the USA lifts its restrcitions on Cuba?


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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:19 pm

I think we should, slowly. Tailor it to their level of lifting oppression.
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Postby Timmy City » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:31 pm

Rio Cana wrote:Yes. Afterall, the US has ties to Communist Vietnam and Communist China. US losses in Vietnam were over 50000 troops. US also had losses fighting the Chinese in Korea. While in Cuba no troop losses.

Things are changing. In that new organization called CELAC (Community of Latin American and Caribbean States) Cuba is a member of this Americas organization which will not let the US or Canada become members.

Ever heard of the Bay of Pigs?
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Postby Saruhan » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:32 pm

Timmy City wrote:
Rio Cana wrote:Yes. Afterall, the US has ties to Communist Vietnam and Communist China. US losses in Vietnam were over 50000 troops. US also had losses fighting the Chinese in Korea. While in Cuba no troop losses.

Things are changing. In that new organization called CELAC (Community of Latin American and Caribbean States) Cuba is a member of this Americas organization which will not let the US or Canada become members.

Ever heard of the Bay of Pigs?

They were counter-Revolutionaries and not American citizens
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:33 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:I've never understood why we continue to embargo Cuba when every other Communist-aligned nation that opened up to our markets eventually adopted some form of free market reforms. Well, I know (the exile movement is politically powerful), but it makes no practical sense whatsoever.

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Yeah, we should have lifted them years ago.
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Postby Shady Deals » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:33 pm

I've stated this in a previous thread on this topic: the embargo is a Cold War relic policy that needs to be abandoned. There's so much opportunity for trade it's foolish not to take advantage of it.

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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:33 pm

It should, although I rue the day since that would mark the end to Puerto Rico's already dwindling tourism sector.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:34 pm

I see no need for the US to lift its embargo when it would benefit Cuba more and further strengthen the Castro regime. Cuba can trade with any other country willing to trade with them.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:35 pm

Yes, because the embargo has achieved nothing.
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Postby Radiatia » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:35 pm

It shouldn't have had them in the first place.

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Postby North California » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:35 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:It should, although I rue the day since that would mark the end to Puerto Rico's already dwindling tourism sector.



Make PR a state, then end the embargo.

If the embargo ends first, PR will just be neglected.
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Postby Alyekra » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:35 pm

I was totally unaware that we still had restrictions.
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Postby Eeri » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:36 pm

Yes, there's no real purpose to embargoing Cuba anymore. As everyone else has said, Cold War is over, we have relations with China and Vietnam, new trade to Cuba could be beneficial.

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Postby Sulamalik » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:37 pm

Google and McDonalds are the most potent forces of liberal democracy in the world. If the US is truly dedicated to global freedom, they shouldn't invade other countries, just friend them on facebook.
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:38 pm

Saruhan wrote:
Timmy City wrote:Ever heard of the Bay of Pigs?

They were counter-Revolutionaries and not American citizens

American citizens died in the attack, though.
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