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From your experience, is the South more racist than the rest of the US?

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Is the South racist?

Postby Paulmania » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:19 pm

I recently heard of a woman, a black woman, who was beaten to death by the LAPD. This made me wonder, what with the LAPD's history of dealing with minorities, if the South is actually as racist as people say it is. I mean, this is Los Angeles, not exactly Atlanta or Birmingham. When do you hear about women being kicked in the crotch and bloodied by the people who are supposed to uphold the law in the infamously racist South? From those who have been there (I haven't), is the South any more racist than the rest of the United States?

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Postby Tagmatium » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:21 pm

Is LA in what is commonly held to be the American South?
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Postby Paulmania » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:21 pm

Tagmatium wrote:Is LA in what is commonly held to be the American South?

It's the Southwest. Generally, anywhere west of Texas is not the South.

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Postby Serrland » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:22 pm

Tagmatium wrote:Is LA in what is commonly held to be the American South?


No, LA is in California.

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Postby Tagmatium » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:23 pm

Serrland wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Is LA in what is commonly held to be the American South?

No, LA is in California.

That's what I was getting at.

I'm not an American, and it surprises me to read someone describing California as "the South".
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Postby TaQud » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:23 pm

Maybe (could still linger from the ancestors in the Civil War)
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Postby Serrland » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:24 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Serrland wrote:No, LA is in California.

That's what I was getting at.

I'm not an American, and it surprises me to read someone describing California as "the South".


Yeah it's really strange. I'm not sure I've ever heard Californian called Southern before.

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Postby Armedland » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:24 pm

LA is not generally considered to be in the deep south.
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Postby Vettrera » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:25 pm

Im black and live outside atlanta and ill give it to you logically.

Racists people live all over. Because there is a higher concentration of blacks in the south. There is a higher concentration of (open) racism
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Postby Tagmatium » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:26 pm

Serrland wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:That's what I was getting at.

I'm not an American, and it surprises me to read someone describing California as "the South".

Yeah it's really strange. I'm not sure I've ever heard Californian called Southern before.

People do move the goal posts for their arguments, but I'm not sure what he's getting at with this.

Surely there are actual examples of potentially-racial crimes in the real South?
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Postby Yewhohohopia » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:26 pm

Not so much racist as unduly prejudiced against those from the North and the UK's Celtic nations.
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Postby Paulmania » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:26 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Serrland wrote:Yeah it's really strange. I'm not sure I've ever heard Californian called Southern before.

People do move the goal posts for their arguments, but I'm not sure what he's getting at with this.

Surely there are actual examples of potentially-racial crimes in the real South?


I mean that the liberal, Western state of California has an awful lot of racial crimes. I was wondering how it compared to the notoriously racist South.

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Postby Nordengrund » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:27 pm

I live in South Carolina and S.C. used to be one of the most racist states in the nation but it is now pretty welcoming and there is very little racism down here. Blacks and whites are now best friends here.
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Postby Tagmatium » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:27 pm

Paulmania wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:People do move the goal posts for their arguments, but I'm not sure what he's getting at with this.

Surely there are actual examples of potentially-racial crimes in the real South?

I mean that the liberal, Western state of California has an awful lot of racial crimes. I was wondering how it compared to the notoriously racist South.

Ooooh, fair play.

Perhaps you need to tweak the wording of the OP, because it doesn't come across that you mean that.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:27 pm

Paulmania wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:People do move the goal posts for their arguments, but I'm not sure what he's getting at with this.

Surely there are actual examples of potentially-racial crimes in the real South?


I mean that the liberal, Western state of California has an awful lot of racial crimes. I was wondering how it compared to the notoriously racist South.

So go do some research and report back to us.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:28 pm

When I lived in North Carolina, it wasn't too bad. Then again I did live in Durham. ;)

There are racist people no matter where you go. C'set la vie.
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Postby Tagmatium » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:28 pm

Yewhohohopia wrote:Not so much racist as unduly prejudiced against those from the North and the UK's Celtic nations.

You make it sound like that's a bad thing.
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Postby Aquitayne » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:29 pm

Being a resident of South Carolina (albeit I must admit not for a long time), my experience with people in general here is that it's not the fact that they're necessarily racist, it's that they haven't been exposed to a lot of foreign customs or religions. Take Judaism for example; not many people in my area of South Carolina have ever met a Jewish person before, so when they find out I myself am Jewish, they're innocently interested in it. They'll ask a lot of borderline questions that might seem like racism and antisemitism, but most of the time as I said before, it's just their lack of exposure.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:31 pm

Aquitayne wrote:Being a resident of South Carolina (albeit I must admit not for a long time), my experience with people in general here is that it's not the fact that they're necessarily racist, it's that they haven't been exposed to a lot of foreign customs or religions. Take Judaism for example; not many people in my area of South Carolina have ever met a Jewish person before, so when they find out I myself am Jewish, they're innocently interested in it. They'll ask a lot of borderline questions that might seem like racism and antisemitism, but most of the time as I said before, it's just their lack of exposure.

Propose to one of their daughters, see how that goes.
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Postby Yewhohohopia » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:31 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Yewhohohopia wrote:Not so much racist as unduly prejudiced against those from the North and the UK's Celtic nations.

You make it sound like that's a bad thing.

I've lived most places in the UK (other than Wales and NI), and err... it's all pretty much the same. London's uniquely horrible, mind.
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Postby Cameroi » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:32 pm

for a time, in the 70s and well into the 80s, the american southeast, the gulf coast states, known otherwise primarily for their high humidity, and hosting of military bases, made serious efforts to move beyond its reputation for racism. it might well, as a result, for a brief time, in some places, have actually been less racist, then many places further north. but that is history now. the rise corporate fascism and a cultural mood of complacency toward if not in favor, of a self proclaimed conservatism that conserves nothing, would appear to mean a rather great deal of back sliding on this issue since then. such as indicated by all these efforts to disenfranchise all minorities and also everyone honest enough to not be co-opted by this so called conservatism, which is really a rather thin, if not transparent disguise, for creeping corporate fascism, that has usurped the democratic process.
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Postby Tagmatium » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:32 pm

Yewhohohopia wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:You make it sound like that's a bad thing.

I've lived most places in the UK (other than Wales and NI), and err... it's all pretty much the same. London's uniquely horrible, mind.

It's why we ought to build a wall on the outside of the M25.

They wouldn't notice.
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Postby Avenio » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:32 pm

The American South has a long and bloody history of racism, so yeah, there's probably a fair amount of lingering racism there. Probably more so than a lot of other places in the US.
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:32 pm

California is the Florida of the West.

I said it once, and I say it again: Florida sucks, and the racism isn't even the biggest suckage aspect of it.
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Postby Domernicus » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:33 pm

from my time in the South (an hour under south of atlanta) its been welcoming. Even the rednecks have black friends. I hvent really found any serious racism.
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