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[Enadail]

Oh shit, wait this is my favorite part of the quote. You say that Chick-Fil-A's president has the right to have a negative opinion on LGBT individuals, and has the right to contribute to anti-LGBT organizations.

I agree completely.

The rest of us, the members of society who aren't living in a 1920s twimwarp, have the right to have a negative opinion of Chick-Fil-A and can boycot the organization.


That's called freedom. He's free to be an asshole, we're free to treat him like an asshole.

Well, I know they have a right to boycott. What I was saying was that the LGBT say they get along with anyone, then when the owner of chick-fil- a states his views on gays, they attack and condemn him when they said they get along with anyone.

Where do they say they get along with anyone? I've never seen the LGBT or pro-LGBT community respond positively to bigots, beyond simple neutrality towards them. If someones going to call you inhuman, you're not exactly going to be best friends. Seriously, where do you get your "facts"?

[Magmia]

Not this shit again....

I'm sorry, I gotta do it:

Your OP, all of it. This is why Atheists think we're delusional, and why people from other countries think we're ignorant. Because we have people making ignorant, nonsensical comments like yours, and proclaiming it all in the name of God. Do you truly think God is happy with you right now? Are you loving you fellow man as you love yourself right now? Are you letting the Light of Christ shine through you with the way you're speaking right now? This is pathetic rhetoric that you have clearly pulled out of your ass without know anything about what you're saying. Seriously, where does all of this come from? This is a terrible example of how you as a Christian should act.

I'm sorry, but you should be ashamed of yourself...

I encourage you, as a fellow Christian, to think about what you're saying, think about the hate and stupidity you are spewing, think about how you're acting. Do you really understand what you're saying? Do you really think God is pleased with you right now?

Think about what I'm saying.....

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Oh shit, wait this is my favorite part of the quote. You say that Chick-Fil-A's president has the right to have a negative opinion on LGBT individuals, and has the right to contribute to anti-LGBT organizations.

I agree completely.

The rest of us, the members of society who aren't living in a 1920s twimwarp, have the right to have a negative opinion of Chick-Fil-A and can boycot the organization.


That's called freedom. He's free to be an asshole, we're free to treat him like an asshole.

Well, I know they have a right to boycott. What I was saying was that the LGBT say they get along with anyone, then when the owner of chick-fil- a states his views on gays, they attack and condemn him when they said they get along with anyone.

That's called free speech. People you hate get it too. Funny thing, huh?
Just because someone has free speech, doesn't mean we can't criticize it.
Of course, by the logic you've demonstrated here, you'd probably deny us all free speech for disagreeing with you here, because it "acts against your free speech". Are you that insecure about your beliefs?

[Miss Defied]

Oh shit, wait this is my favorite part of the quote. You say that Chick-Fil-A's president has the right to have a negative opinion on LGBT individuals, and has the right to contribute to anti-LGBT organizations.

I agree completely.

The rest of us, the members of society who aren't living in a 1920s twimwarp, have the right to have a negative opinion of Chick-Fil-A and can boycot the organization.


That's called freedom. He's free to be an asshole, we're free to treat him like an asshole.

Well, I know they have a right to boycott. What I was saying was that the LGBT say they get along with anyone, then when the owner of chick-fil- a states his views on gays, they attack and condemn him when they said they get along with anyone.

Well maybe they lied aout that. But can you blame them for not getting along with a guy who financially supports an organization working to legislate the death penalty for homosexuality.

[The Calldari State]

Well, I know they have a right to boycott. What I was saying was that the LGBT say they get along with anyone, then when the owner of chick-fil- a states his views on gays, they attack and condemn him when they said they get along with anyone.

You ever heard that quote "Jessie Jackson is not the King of black people!"? It comes from an episode of South Park where a man accused of publicly saying a racial slur thought it was "OK" because Jessie Jackson forgave him. He was too much of an idiot realize that black people are all individuals, with different ideas and opinions.

That's sort of like what you're doing. I don't recall the "Council of LGBT Individuals" ever saying "we get along with everybody!".

I work with a gay dude who absolutely hates Muslims, he doesn't get along with everybody. He's an asshole. You ever heard of the Log Cabin Republicans? All gay. All strongly Republican.

I don't see how you expect people to take you seriously if you're going to make hilarious fictitious claims on behalf of LGBT people everywhere. They're people like anyone else, and they all have different political, moral and yes even religious ideas and opinions.

So I'm still undecided if you're a troll who hasn't done his homework, or someone who's genuinely ignorant.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

The world, mainly America, is becoming increasingly progressive liberal. They "claim" to support individual liberties and equal rights, but they are hypocrites. I'm looking at you U.S. Democrats. Progressive liberals are humanitarian, but yet they think abortion is okay. Abortion is inhumane. Democrats say they support personal liberty, yet they support socialism, banning firearms, and doing away with public religion. They are gay supporters and say they get along with anyone, but when the president of Chick- Fil- A states his opinion on homosexuality, the gays begin boycotting. How hypocritical. We have freedom of speech y' know. Obama is a democrat and he has promised to fix this country, but thus far that has not happened.

Honestly, I think more right- leaning parties such as the G.O.P. and Constitutionalists tend to allow more personal liberty than the leftist progressive liberals. They support gun rights, free speech, optional healthcare, free religion, free speech, free press. Yeah, they tend to be more moralistic and authoritarian, but at least they do not try to outlaw things because it offends them.

Liberals see right- wing ideologies as evil and primitive when homosexuality is non- productive and is a waste because it does not allow people to reproduce. The right wing only want what is best for the majority.

This is why progressive liberalism is all screwed- up.

Dude.

Liberals aren't leftists.

Liberals are right-wingers, just like you, who are smart enough to realize that you have to throw the rabble a few bones every once in a while if you want to have any hope at all of maintaining the corrupt status quo on which your privileged position.

We leftists, on the other hand, want to replace that status quo altogether with something actually morally justifiable.

So tell me, Nordengrund, why do you hate freedom and individual liberty and Christianity and the principles upon which the United States was founded so much?

[Vazeckta]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I ceased to support the GOP.

Chik-fil-a. Bro don't like gays, ok. People don't like that and don't buy his stuff. So, either he goes out of business or enough people support him or don't care and just like his food, and he stays in business. That's how capitalism works, isn't it?

" Yeah, they tend to be more moralistic and authoritarian, but at least they do not try to outlaw things because it offends them. "

No, that is usually why they outlaw things. Because they find it offensive to their religious views or how they want to raise their children or something like that.

[North Calaveras]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I ceased to support the GOP.

Chik-fil-a. Bro don't like gays, ok. People don't like that and don't buy his stuff. So, either he goes out of business or enough people support him or don't care and just like his food, and he stays in business. That's how capitalism works, isn't it?

" Yeah, they tend to be more moralistic and authoritarian, but at least they do not try to outlaw things because it offends them. "

No, that is usually why they outlaw things. Because they find it offensive to their religious views or how they want to raise their children or something like that.

meh same arguement can be made for liberals though, gos both ways, but i see what you mean.

[Moving Forward Inc]

The world, mainly America, is becoming increasingly progressive liberal.

The world yes, america, only socially, not economically.

They "claim" to support individual liberties and equal rights, but they are hypocrites.

Both left and right do this, and are equally famous for it.
When it comes to social issues such as sex and drugs, a lefty liberal will say "not restricting the freedoms of others, legalize it". Talk about economics, and they will want to regulate and tax the fuck out of the rich, destroying individual liberty and equal rights in the process.
The right on the other hand, will say "Freedom and liberty to sell whatever the fuck you want without restrictions or removal of profits". You then tell them the guys on the other side of the street are selling sex toys and hard drugs and then the say "GAH FUCK! Think of the children, think of GOD! This is immoral.".

Progressive liberals are humanitarian, but yet they think abortion is okay. Abortion is inhumane.

Incorrect. Forcing a woman to be a slave for 9 months is inhumane.

Democrats say they support personal liberty, yet they support socialism, banning firearms, and doing away with public religion.

Socialism they are absolutely against, so you are wrong there, banning firearms is only partially true, you can still have some sorts of guns if you get a licence, and you are yet to prove they are literally removing religion from the public.

They are gay supporters and say they get along with anyone, but when the president of Chick- Fil- A states his opinion on homosexuality, the gays begin boycotting. How hypocritical. We have freedom of speech y' know.

Please tell me, how does freedom of speech suggests a ban on boycotting people for what they say?
You have the right to say whatever you like but it doesn't mean other people have to like it.

Obama is a democrat and he has promised to fix this country, but thus far that has not happened.

Fix america? Not possible. United states is too broken to be fixed.

[United State of America]

ban the firearms. all the firearms. - barack obama

psych americaaaaaa~

[Wikkiwallana]

So much fail, where to start?

[Maurepas]

I see people who don't know the difference between a forum and a blog as evil and primitive. The Forum only want what is best for Forum.

[Wikkiwallana]

ban the firearms. all the firearms. - barack obama

Ah yes, I recall that speech. He then snorted some coke and said death to all the white people, while confessing how he was born in the sewers of Bangladesh and was a Buddhist hitman before becoming senator.

He then donned a turban, screamed a ululating war cry, and began tossing IEDs into the press box. When he ran out, he invited Reid and Pelosi to join him in a dinner of roast fetus, and walked off on a carpet made of the Constitution. It got my vote.

[North California]

No offense, but people like you are ammunition for the left wing to use against us. Seriously, you make right-wingers look bad.

[Mekenamenamarifah]

The world, mainly America, is becoming increasingly progressive liberal. They "claim" to support individual liberties and equal rights, but they are hypocrites. I'm looking at you U.S. Democrats. Progressive liberals are humanitarian, but yet they think abortion is okay. Abortion is inhumane. Democrats say they support personal liberty, yet they support socialism, banning firearms, and doing away with public religion. They are gay supporters and say they get along with anyone, but when the president of Chick- Fil- A states his opinion on homosexuality, the gays begin boycotting. How hypocritical. We have freedom of speech y' know. Obama is a democrat and he has promised to fix this country, but thus far that has not happened.

Honestly, I think more right- leaning parties such as the G.O.P. and Constitutionalists tend to allow more personal liberty than the leftist progressive liberals. They support gun rights, free speech, optional healthcare, free religion, free speech, free press. Yeah, they tend to be more moralistic and authoritarian, but at least they do not try to outlaw things because it offends them.

Liberals see right- wing ideologies as evil and primitive when homosexuality is non- productive and is a waste because it does not allow people to reproduce. The right wing only want what is best for the majority.

This is why progressive liberalism is all screwed- up.

Seen too many of these threads to care to be a part of dragging it much farther. I will say, however, that freedom of speech for one person (hell, even one entity) ends when discrimination and the promotion of inequality begins. Chik-Fil-A has been called on discrimination in the past, and has donated to organizations intent on preventing guarantees of equal rights for the LGBT community. Try to justify it with an ancient moral code, if you so wish, but let right be done by society, and embrace the liberty you complain the Democrats don't support; quit fighting the basic right of consenting adult humans to marry, even if the topic twists your panties.

edit: Furthermore, criticizing homosexuality as "non- productive and...a waste" makes absolutely no sense. By that logic, we should outlaw fast food like Chik-Fil-A. Homosexuality isn't about wild disregard for safety and AIDS like TV-preacher personalities will claim. It isn't even merely about sex. It's about attraction, and about a relationship. That is the distinction y'all fail to make. Fast food provides jobs and a quick solution to hunger. Should it be banned or even suppressed because it's frivolous and, when abused, can lead to deadly conditions? No.

Honestly...

[Der Landstreicher]

Yeah, they tend to be more moralistic and authoritarian, but at least they do not try to outlaw things because it offends them.

Unless it's drugs, gay marriage, or abortions right?

Liberals see right- wing ideologies as evil and primitive when homosexuality is non- productive and is a waste because it does not allow people to reproduce.

How is homosexuality "non-productive" and why does reproduction matter?

[United State of America]

Ah yes, I recall that speech. He then snorted some coke and said death to all the white people, while confessing how he was born in the sewers of Bangladesh and was a Buddhist hitman before becoming senator.

He then donned a turban, screamed a ululating war cry, and began tossing IEDs into the press box. When he ran out, he invited Reid and Pelosi to join him in a dinner of roast fetus, and walked off on a carpet made of the Constitution. It got my vote.

Dammit, didn't they show the part where he made all the survivors get force gay marriages? That part sealed it for me.

[Wikkiwallana]

First off, if an unborn fetus is alive, then why isn't the chicken you ate for dinner?

Because it has been in my refrigerator for the last several days, and in my freezer for who knows how long before that.

[Sedikal]

The right are just as hypocritical as the left are.

[Mosasauria]

I can not even begin to describe just how many times every single point you made, OP, has been refuted on this very forum.
And yet, like we've never discussed it before, another person comes along with the SAME FUCKING ARGUMENTS!
I've been trying to figure out why the fuck this keeps happening, but I cannot figure it out.
Perhaps you, OP, can take a break from making ad hominem thread titles and help me figure this out?

[Transhuman Proteus]

The world, mainly America, is becoming increasingly progressive liberal.

I wish... if so I wish it would happen faster.

They "claim" to support individual liberties and equal rights, but they are hypocrites

This should be good.

I'm looking at you U.S. Democrats.

You really think the US democrats are too liberally progressive?

Progressive liberals are humanitarian, but yet they think abortion is okay. Abortion is inhumane.

Your personal opinion, which isn't fact or really supported by science. Or the law. I dare say us liberal progressives simply place greater importance on an actual persons rights over the rights of a non-person cluster of cells.

Democrats say they support personal liberty, yet they support socialism, banning firearms, and doing away with public religion.

Proof of socialism support (and some reasons why it is bad that demonstrate you actually know what socialism is).
Proof they are all for banning firearms.
And what is public religion? Religious icons on government buildings? Government sanctioned prayer days and gathering?

But theoretically if you want more public religion you want more of all religion in public right? Islam and Wicca and Satanism and Zoroastrianism and... if US sentators call for a day of Christian prayer then by damn I want something for the Satanists as well.

They are gay supporters and say they get along with anyone, but when the president of Chick- Fil- A states his opinion on homosexuality, the gays begin boycotting.

Yes.... it is an attack on free speech to practice free speech? Logic, logic, where art thou?

Or if you prefer - person A has the right to say what they want, person B has the right to say they disagree. Person B has the right to get together lots of friends and all say they disagree together.

How hypocritical. We have freedom of speech y' know. Obama is a democrat and he has promised to fix this country, but thus far that has not happened.

Obama said he would fix the country in a way that concerns free speech?

Honestly, I think more right- leaning parties such as the G.O.P. and Constitutionalists tend to allow more personal liberty than the leftist progressive liberals. They support gun rights, free speech, optional healthcare, free religion, free speech, free press. Yeah, they tend to be more moralistic and authoritarian, but at least they do not try to outlaw things because it offends them.

Well, free religion as long as it is Christianity. And they tend not to support LGBT rights. And support outlawing abortion. And being anti-sex/anti-contraception. And not scientific friendly. And...

Liberals see right- wing ideologies as evil and primitive when homosexuality is non- productive and is a waste because it does not allow people to reproduce. The right wing only want what is best for the majority.

This is why progressive liberalism is all screwed- up.

Then of late the majority apparently consists of "old, white, rich, Christian, straight (in public) males - fcuk everyone else".

And again - the Democrats really aren't all that progressive or liberal. More than the GOP, but then it is hard not to be.

[RB Rebecca Black]

So, you think that we are against freedom of speech because we boycott organizations with views that we disagree with? No, it's quite the opposite actually. We're utilizing our freedom of expression by saying that we won't support a company that holds a view that we dislike. Nowhere did any liberal say, "We think companies should not be allowed to exercise free speech."

Plus, you're definitely taking the term liberal to mean the wrong thing. Liberal, in definition, is one who advocates for maximum liberty, financial and social. It's true that the term has been hijacked and twisted to mean the opposite of its definition, but it doesn't make the distortions of it correct. "Liberal" is defined as someone who supports freedom and social justice whilst advocating capitalism, whether regulated or unregulated.

[Wikkiwallana]

FOX News would like to hire you, Nordengrund, as our newest anchor.

Everybody loves a talking head.

[Mosasauria]

He then donned a turban, screamed a ululating war cry, and began tossing IEDs into the press box. When he ran out, he invited Reid and Pelosi to join him in a dinner of roast fetus, and walked off on a carpet made of the Constitution. It got my vote.

Dammit, didn't they show the part where he made all the survivors get force gay marriages? That part sealed it for me.

I wasn't convinced at that part. It was only when he then took a photoshoot holding The God Delusion, made a speech on why God is not good, then declared that the United States was to be renamed the Communist States of America and professed that Nazism was to be the new ideology of America.

[Franklin Delano Bluth]

So, you think that we are against freedom of speech because we boycott organizations with views that we disagree with? No, it's quite the opposite actually. We're utilizing our freedom of expression by saying that we won't support a company that holds a view that we dislike. Nowhere did any liberal say, "We think companies should not be allowed to exercise free speech."

Plus, you're definitely taking the term liberal to mean the wrong thing. Liberal, in definition, is one who advocates for maximum liberty, financial and social. It's true that the term has been hijacked and twisted to mean the opposite of its definition, but it doesn't make the distortions of it correct. "Liberal" is defined as someone who supports freedom and social justice whilst advocating capitalism, whether regulated or unregulated.

Capitalism isn't liberty; it's the opposite of it.