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Is homosexuality a mental illness?

Postby Galiantus » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:37 pm

I was listening to the radio and I heard something that made me start thinking about the possibility that gay thoughts are signs of psychological problems like :blink: Terrets, Autism, and other mental problems people are born with. Kind of like the sexual attraction programming went haywire.

However, I also think that some homosexuals may not be born gay, but that they have chosen to be gay as a form of rebellion or as a result of other circumstances.

So what do you think?
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:46 pm

What if heterosexuality is a mental illness.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:47 pm

oh boy here we go

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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:48 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:oh boy here we go


That sounds like something a homosexual would say. Sir, we're going to have to bring you in for questioning.
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Postby Lialoth » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:48 pm

No it isn't classified as a mental illness and hasn't been classified as such for years.
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Postby Typhlochactas » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:49 pm

Threads like this are the reason I should stop checking NSG before I go to bed.

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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:50 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:Threads like this are the reason I should stop checking NSG before I go to bed.


i was going to try out Total War for the first time, and I saw this thread. I have a feeling this isn't worth it.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:51 pm

It does not cause distress or difficulty functioning, therefore, it is not an illness.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:51 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:Threads like this are the reason I should stop checking NSG before I go to bed.


I was about to do the same thing...
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Postby Arkiasis » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:52 pm

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Postby Creative Vikings » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:53 pm

Is questioning sexual orientation a mental illness?

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Postby Avenio » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:54 pm

Why is it apparently so hard to spell 'Tourette's' correctly?
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:54 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:Is questioning sexual orientation a mental illness?


Is a mental illness questioning sexual orientation?
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Postby Magmia » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:54 pm

I bet $1,000 that this will have more than 25 pages by 9:00am US Central time. This won't go well........

Anyways, No! Homosexuality is not a "Mental Illness" :palm:
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Postby Moving Forward Inc » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:55 pm

Mental illness (in the dictionary): Any of the various forms of Psychosis or severe neurosis.

Psychosis: Mental disorders characterized by Delusions or Hallucinations that indicate impaired contact with reality.

Neurosis: a functional disorder in which feelings of anxiety, obsessional thoughts, compulsive acts, and physical complaints without objective evidence of disease, in various degrees and patterns, dominate the personality.

I think you have a better case of labeling pot smokers and religious people as mentally ill.
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Postby Nation of Fortune » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:56 pm

Magmia wrote:I bet $1,000 that this will have more than 25 pages by 9:00am US Central time. This won't go well........

Anyways, No! Homosexuality is not a "Mental Illness" :palm:

I'm just waiting for someone to bring up a certain subject, but not gonna mention it cause that would ruin my test.
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Postby Creative Vikings » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:57 pm

Avenio wrote:Why is it apparently so hard to spell 'Tourette's' correctly?

Mavorpen wrote:
Creative Vikings wrote:Is questioning sexual orientation a mental illness?


Is a mental illness questioning sexual orientation?

Mental illnesses out the wazoo!

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Postby Galiantus » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:58 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:It does not cause distress or difficulty functioning, therefore, it is not an illness.

Ah, but if the "normal" programming was homosexuality, people would have died out millions of years ago. Therefore natural homosexuality is a disorder, because it does not benefit the human race in any way.
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Postby Ixia » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:59 pm

I don't really see why it would be relevant even if it were; usually illnesses or ailments are referred to as such because they impede upon a person's abilities to act. The only thing homosexuality would really impede upon is reproduction, and honestly we have have enough people in the world doing that on a regular basis to make up for the some-odd 10% of our population that does not find the other sex appealing.

So, in my opinion, no. It isn't a mental illness. Being a homosexual doesn't make you hear little voices in your head or cause you to justify and rationalise murder or make you think you're a cat made out of cake, trapped inside of a human body [also known as being an Otherkin, which really should be listed as a mental illness]. It doesn't impede upon your ability to contribute to society [aside from reproduction, which even then can be circumvented]. It will not be "cured" by medication or rehabilitation. All it will really do is cause you to find the same gender sexually appealing. Oh dear. How utterly tragic.

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Postby Sentinel XV » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:59 pm

I love how many people here in America view obesity as a disease/mental illness, but view homosexuality as a choice. There is no choice about it. It is not a lifestyle like obesity, it is an engrained part of a person that is with them from birth.
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Postby Nation of Fortune » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:59 pm

Galiantus wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:It does not cause distress or difficulty functioning, therefore, it is not an illness.

Ah, but if the "normal" programming was homosexuality, people would have died out millions of years ago. Therefore natural homosexuality is a disorder, because it does not benefit the human race in any way.

Are you certain it doesn't benefit the human race in any way? Could be a form of natural population control.
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Galiantus wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:It does not cause distress or difficulty functioning, therefore, it is not an illness.

Ah, but if the "normal" programming was homosexuality, people would have died out millions of years ago. Therefore natural homosexuality is a disorder, because it does not benefit the human race in any way.

That's not what a mental illness is. Out of the norm does not equal an illness. Using your logic, blue eyes would be considered a genetic defect and an illness.
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Postby Avenio » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:00 am

Galiantus wrote:Ah, but if the "normal" programming was homosexuality, people would have died out millions of years ago.


How so? Does homosexuality somehow inhibit one from producing offspring? Cause infertility, perhaps? Or, maybe, it's not primarily genetic in nature? Quelle horreur!

Galiantus wrote:Therefore natural homosexuality is a disorder, because it does not benefit the human race in any way.


So does being tall, but I daresay you're not lining up the basketball players for the gas chambers anytime soon.

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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:00 am

Galiantus wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:It does not cause distress or difficulty functioning, therefore, it is not an illness.

Ah, but if the "normal" programming was homosexuality, people would have died out millions of years ago. Therefore natural homosexuality is a disorder, because it does not benefit the human race in any way.

That's not what a mental illness is. Out of the norm does not equal an illness. Using your logic, blue eyes would be considered a genetic defect and an illness.
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Postby Unilisia » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:01 am

No.

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