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Of the Free Socialist Territories
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:59 pm

New Finnland wrote:


I meant the most recent father of National Socialism you dommkopf!


You might want to state that in future. And I wouldn't class 'bastardising various elements of an already repellent ideology with Voelkisch nationalism and anti-communism to get something even more repellent and genuinely evil than the original' as 'being a father of'.
Don't be deceived when our Revolution has finally been stamped out and they tell you things are better now even if there's no poverty to see, because the poverty's been hidden...even if you ever got more wages and could afford to buy more of these new and useless goods which these new industries foist on you, and even if it seems to you that "you never had so much" - that is only the slogan of those who have much more than you.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:01 pm

New Finnland wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You recall wrongly.

i beg your pardon then let me guess who it was umm... President of Israel Shimon Peres??? who was then mister troll

You are actually calling a Generalite with over 2000 posts a troll?

I'm pretty sure even Genavaria wouldn't call me a troll.


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I meant the most recent father of National Socialism you dommkopf!

National Socialism has more than one father?

National Socialism is gay?!
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:02 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:National Socialism has more than one father?

National Socialism is gay?!


OH GOD, THE TRAGIC IRONY!
Don't be deceived when our Revolution has finally been stamped out and they tell you things are better now even if there's no poverty to see, because the poverty's been hidden...even if you ever got more wages and could afford to buy more of these new and useless goods which these new industries foist on you, and even if it seems to you that "you never had so much" - that is only the slogan of those who have much more than you.

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Postby Alaje » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:02 pm

The USOT wrote:
New Finnland wrote:exactly but not entirely the same thing.
Only in the same way that an Oak is a tree, but a tree does not neccesarily imply an oak.

National Socialism (in its Hittlerite version) is indeed a variant of fascism, but fascism does not neccesarily entail national socialism.


National Socialism is Socialism, Fascism is Socialism. They're the same, albeit with minor differences.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:03 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Yes, so he's liberal in the actual sense, not in the make-up sense.

He's a Ron Paul liberal.

I think I'm gonna be sick.

Why?
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Postby Vecherd » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:03 pm

Libertas Liber wrote:
Vecherd wrote:I am a strong supporter of Anarcho-Nonchalantism and I believe in it because don't believe anyone should screw about with other people. So it is only logical to believe in complete, utter and chill freedom.


Yes, but it is so tricky to determine how much freedom can be given to a society before they fall. I know the statement sounds like I'm for big government, which I'm not, but the notion of anarchy just sounds like chaos which I'm pretty sure it is.


Society wont fall just because some wanker don't have control of all the people.
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Postby Raumm » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:03 pm

I am somewhat of a social liberal and a political nationalist/centrist. My views are a mix of lots of things...
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Postby Distruzio » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:03 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
New Finnland wrote:
I meant the most recent father of National Socialism you dommkopf!

National Socialism has more than one father?

National Socialism is gay?!


At least now we know where they get their fashion sense.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:04 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:National Socialism has more than one father?

National Socialism is gay?!


OH GOD, THE TRAGIC IRONY!

Hehehe. I'm seriously hoping someone sig's that.
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Postby Distruzio » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:04 pm

Alaje wrote:
The USOT wrote:Only in the same way that an Oak is a tree, but a tree does not neccesarily imply an oak.

National Socialism (in its Hittlerite version) is indeed a variant of fascism, but fascism does not neccesarily entail national socialism.


National Socialism is Socialism, Fascism is Socialism. They're the same, albeit with minor differences.


I'd disagree there.... but I'd want to know more before I spoke my peace. How do you figure that fascism is socialism?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:04 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:National Socialism has more than one father?

National Socialism is gay?!


At least now we know where they get their fashion sense.

That's going in my collection of quotes.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:05 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I think I'm gonna be sick.

Why?

I don't care for Paul.
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Postby New Finnland » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:05 pm

Danke Dummkofs Good bye trollers
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Postby The USOT » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:06 pm

Distruzio wrote:
The USOT wrote:Yeah I figured that.
But to anyone who doesnt know you, it kinda looks like your proposing parliament to force atheist policies on people :lol:


....

Holy shit... I hadn't even thought of that! :shock:

Now I have to think of a new zinger!

Not sure if sarcasm...
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Postby Chestaan » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:06 pm

I'm a libertarian socialist and recently been leaning increasingly towards anarcho-communism.
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Postby Distruzio » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:06 pm

The USOT wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
....

Holy shit... I hadn't even thought of that! :shock:

Now I have to think of a new zinger!

Not sure if sarcasm...


Absolutely sarcasm. I seriously hadn't thought of it that way.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:06 pm

Alaje wrote:
The USOT wrote:Only in the same way that an Oak is a tree, but a tree does not neccesarily imply an oak.

National Socialism (in its Hittlerite version) is indeed a variant of fascism, but fascism does not neccesarily entail national socialism.


National Socialism is Socialism, Fascism is Socialism. They're the same, albeit with minor differences.

I'll have to disagree there. I have read the Doctrine of Fascism (but not Mein Kampf), and studied Fascism quite a bit (possibly not as much as you) and it does not appear to be very Socialist. How do you figure fascism is socialism?
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:07 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
OH GOD, THE TRAGIC IRONY!

Hehehe. I'm seriously hoping someone sig's that.


Regrettably, probably not.

*weeps*
Don't be deceived when our Revolution has finally been stamped out and they tell you things are better now even if there's no poverty to see, because the poverty's been hidden...even if you ever got more wages and could afford to buy more of these new and useless goods which these new industries foist on you, and even if it seems to you that "you never had so much" - that is only the slogan of those who have much more than you.

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Postby Libertas Liber » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:07 pm

Vecherd wrote:
Libertas Liber wrote:
Yes, but it is so tricky to determine how much freedom can be given to a society before they fall. I know the statement sounds like I'm for big government, which I'm not, but the notion of anarchy just sounds like chaos which I'm pretty sure it is.


Society wont fall just because some wanker don't have control of all the people.


Yes, but anarchy implies that people's only protection is the protection they can offer themselves which leads to massive crime. Anarchy is a system where violence is allowed (and perhaps encouraged?)... It'd be fine if it was freedom of society until people are hurt, scammed, or stolen from.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:07 pm

New Finnland wrote:Danke Dummkofs Good bye trollers

Please stop trying to speak German. Please.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:08 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Hehehe. I'm seriously hoping someone sig's that.


Regrettably, probably not.

*weeps*

*weeps louder*

Well, at least I got some enjoyment out of it.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:08 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
New Finnland wrote:Danke Dummkofs Good bye trollers

Please stop trying to speak German. Please.


I'm not even German, but I still find it both grossly offensive and strangely tragic.
Don't be deceived when our Revolution has finally been stamped out and they tell you things are better now even if there's no poverty to see, because the poverty's been hidden...even if you ever got more wages and could afford to buy more of these new and useless goods which these new industries foist on you, and even if it seems to you that "you never had so much" - that is only the slogan of those who have much more than you.

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Postby Libertas Liber » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:09 pm

Chestaan wrote:I'm a libertarian socialist and recently been leaning increasingly towards anarcho-communism.


I apologize, could you elaborate? I don't believe I know what a "liberterian socialist" is.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:09 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Why?

I don't care for Paul.

Ah, I see. What exactly do you not like about him (just curious)?
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Postby Ruridova » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:09 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:National Socialism has more than one father?

National Socialism is gay?!


OH GOD, THE TRAGIC IRONY!

I think i'm gonna sig this...
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