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Constaniana
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Postby Constaniana » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:19 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:First of all, ignore all the snide and unhelpful comments, especially from the pretentious buggers who insult RPers because they think there's something superior about arguing their whackass political views rather than creative writing.

Second of all, it's up to you. If you want to debate politics, General is the go-to place. International Incidents and NationStates are for you to RP (that is, roleplay) with your nation. Portal to the Multiverse is also an RP forum, but for RPs unrelated to your NationStates nation.

Before posting in any forum, it's a good idea to read the threads at the top of the forums, or stickies, which tell you about that particular forum's rules. As well as General and the RPing forums, there is Forum 7, which is for random shit that doesn't fit anywhere else, and there's Arts & Fiction, which more or less speaks for itself. Factbooks & National Information is for posting information about your country.

Global Economics & Trade is about business-based RPs regarding your country, where you 'buy' and 'sell' stuff. NS Sports is for RPing sporting events.

You can also join the WA, which is our version of the United Nations. This allows you to vote for resolutions and stuff, I'm not a member so I don't know much beyond that.

Finally, there's the Gameplay aspect of NationStates, which we don't talk about here on the forums because even the RPers, F7ers and Generalites tend to agree that the people who don't post on forums and do these funny things called raiding and defending are just plain odd. I gather it has something to do with the WA.

For further information visit the FAQs page.

Finally, good luck and welcome to NationStates :)

I agree with this. I recommend doing RP's in international incidents or nationstates, since that's way more fun than raiding or solving issues or getting into butthurt arguments in General. Also, how did you found a region? i was considering doing it for a future series of roleplays I though about
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Old Tyrannia
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Old Tyrannia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:19 am

Nadkor wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:First of all, ignore all the snide and unhelpful comments, especially from the pretentious buggers who insult RPers because they think there's something superior about arguing their whackass political views rather than creative writing.


There's nothing wrong with creative writing, but let's not be insulting to those who actually do it, hmm?

What's that supposed to mean?
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Postby Radiatia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:21 am

Das Reich Gervak wrote:Well, Hi this may be the wrong place to post this but I can't see anywhere else.
My nation is called Das Reich Gervak.
I've already created a Custom Flag and done all the issues, I've also founded my Region called Gervakstar...

What should I do now...?


Hi there Das Reich Gervak. What are you wanting to do with Nationstates? There are various communities on here.

NSG (where you are now) is inhabited almost exclusively by internet trolls who make comments like the ones above because they are lonely, sad, pathetic people in real life.

Then there's the Gameplay community who do things like Regional government, and a game called Raiding and Defending (which I know little about).

There's the WA which is another faucet altogether.

Finally there's the RP community, of which I am a part, where we essentially roleplay as our nations and develop worlds and stories, etc.

I'm about to go to bed, but if you need any more help I am a TG away.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Constaniana » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:21 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
There's nothing wrong with creative writing, but let's not be insulting to those who actually do it, hmm?

What's that supposed to mean?

Maybe they're just mad because they can't make a good roleplay?
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Ameriganastan wrote:I work hard to think of those ludicrous Eric adventure stories, but I don't think I'd have come up with rescuing a three armed alchemist from goblin-monkeys in a million years.

Kudos.

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Postby Varijnland » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:21 am

Leave, NS will eat your soul.

Nah, I kid. The General thread is a good place to start
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Postby Tigeria » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:24 am

Write a fact book for your nation
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Postby Laerod » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:25 am

Constaniana wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:What's that supposed to mean?

Maybe they're just mad because they can't make a good roleplay?

Dunno, I'm kinda doing a decent one at the moment.

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Postby Yewhohohopia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:26 am

Constaniana wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:What's that supposed to mean?

Maybe they're just mad because they can't make a good roleplay?

I think we're more mad because the whole idea of fiction is besmirched on a regular basis over that way.

"Oh but you can't do better etc."

Maybe not, but that's exactly why I wouldn't try writing wannabe Clancy.
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Postby ImperialistSalvia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:26 am

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Postby Meryuma » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:27 am

My advice is to ignore everyone who's using this thread as a vehicle to bitch about what is in fact generally one of the most intelligent & entertaining sites on the internet.
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Postby Laerod » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:28 am

Meryuma wrote:My advice is to ignore everyone who's using this thread as a vehicle to bitch about what is in fact generally one of the most intelligent & entertaining sites on the internet.

Fox News?

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Postby Wamitoria » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:28 am

Yewhohohopia wrote:
Constaniana wrote:Maybe they're just mad because they can't make a good roleplay?

I think we're more mad because the whole idea of fiction is besmirched on a regular basis over that way.

"Oh but you can't do better etc."

Maybe not, but that's exactly why I wouldn't try writing wannabe Clancy.

RP's can be pretty good if everyone involved is a decent writer with some knowledge of basic military tactics. Otherwise, RPs get bad quick as people either godmod or do stupid shit.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:28 am

Meryuma wrote:My advice is to ignore everyone who's using this thread as a vehicle to bitch about what is in fact generally one of the most intelligent & entertaining sites on the internet.


We built it. We can bitch about it. :p
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Postby Wamitoria » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:29 am

Laerod wrote:
Meryuma wrote:My advice is to ignore everyone who's using this thread as a vehicle to bitch about what is in fact generally one of the most intelligent & entertaining sites on the internet.

Fox News?

Stormfront. *nods*
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Old Tyrannia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:29 am

Yewhohohopia wrote:
Constaniana wrote:Maybe they're just mad because they can't make a good roleplay?

I think we're more mad because the whole idea of fiction is besmirched on a regular basis over that way.

"Oh but you can't do better etc."

Maybe not, but that's exactly why I wouldn't try writing wannabe Clancy.

Oh, there are bad RPers. There are also bad debaters in General. But just as General as a few pretty decent debaters, there are some very good RPers in the RPing forums, and I'd consider myself among them.
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Postby Constaniana » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:29 am

Laerod wrote:
Constaniana wrote:Maybe they're just mad because they can't make a good roleplay?

Dunno, I'm kinda doing a decent one at the moment.

That's fine.
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Kudos.

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Postby Laerod » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:29 am

Wamitoria wrote:
Yewhohohopia wrote:I think we're more mad because the whole idea of fiction is besmirched on a regular basis over that way.

"Oh but you can't do better etc."

Maybe not, but that's exactly why I wouldn't try writing wannabe Clancy.

RP's can be pretty good if everyone involved is a decent writer with some knowledge of basic military tactics. Otherwise, RPs get bad quick as people either godmod or do stupid shit.

Who says a good RP needs to be about military engagements?

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Postby Wamitoria » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:30 am

Laerod wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:RP's can be pretty good if everyone involved is a decent writer with some knowledge of basic military tactics. Otherwise, RPs get bad quick as people either godmod or do stupid shit.

Who says a good RP needs to be about military engagements?

You're talking to someone who bombed a royal wedding.
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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:30 am

Instead of founding your own region, which will (a) promptly get taken over if it is doing well, or (b) be ineffective and irrelevant, I suggest joining one of the many vital regions already in existence.
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Old Tyrannia
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:31 am

Laerod wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:RP's can be pretty good if everyone involved is a decent writer with some knowledge of basic military tactics. Otherwise, RPs get bad quick as people either godmod or do stupid shit.

Who says a good RP needs to be about military engagements?

This. Diplomatic RPs or even character RPs can be just as good, and in fact are usually a higher quality than military RPs in my experience.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:31 am

Laerod wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:RP's can be pretty good if everyone involved is a decent writer with some knowledge of basic military tactics. Otherwise, RPs get bad quick as people either godmod or do stupid shit.

Who says a good RP needs to be about military engagements?

A sizeable proportion of II, it seems.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:32 am

Laerod wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:RP's can be pretty good if everyone involved is a decent writer with some knowledge of basic military tactics. Otherwise, RPs get bad quick as people either godmod or do stupid shit.

Who says a good RP needs to be about military engagements?


I have actually thought about RPing, but BJP is too well known, and in a military engagement, to damn large.
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Postby Nadkor » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:32 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:there are some very good RPers in the RPing forums, and I'd consider myself among them.


Funny, that.
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Postby Laerod » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:32 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Laerod wrote:Who says a good RP needs to be about military engagements?

This. Diplomatic RPs or even character RPs can be just as good, and in fact are usually a higher quality than military RPs in my experience.

Well, to be honest, I'm in a warfare RP with no diplomacy other than "Put down your weapons" and the extent of our warfare scenes so far has been a picture of a dogfight. Everything else has been character and world building.
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Old Tyrannia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:33 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Laerod wrote:Who says a good RP needs to be about military engagements?


I have actually thought about RPing, but BJP is too well known, and in a military engagement, to damn large.

Many people RP with smaller populations than on their nation page.
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Laerod wrote:Who says a good RP needs to be about military engagements?

A sizeable proportion of II, it seems.

Mainly n00bs who can't write decently for shit anyway.
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