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Can Ron Paul get as far as the 2012 national republican convention?

Yes, He will
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20%
Yes, He could
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No, he probably couldn't
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17%
No, he won't
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47%
 
Total votes : 361

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Postby Death Metal » Sun May 13, 2012 12:07 am

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Don't you want to see Ron Paul capture the nomination? Don't you want to see those newsletters splattered all over the country? Don't you want to watch Ron Paul try to defend the gold standard on national television?

No. I want Ron Paul to fade away and disappear, because every time I hear about him I get a little more tired and weary, and my life gets a little more grey.


Don't forget his puppet-son Rand.

Feel so sorry for that kid. Even his name reeks of indoctrination...
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun May 13, 2012 12:08 am

Death Metal wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:No. I want Ron Paul to fade away and disappear, because every time I hear about him I get a little more tired and weary, and my life gets a little more grey.


Don't forget his puppet-son Rand.

Feel so sorry for that kid. Even his name reeks of indoctrination...

His name is actually "Randal," but yeah ...
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sun May 13, 2012 12:09 am

Death Metal wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:No. I want Ron Paul to fade away and disappear, because every time I hear about him I get a little more tired and weary, and my life gets a little more grey.


Don't forget his puppet-son Rand.

Feel so sorry for that kid. Even his name reeks of indoctrination...

I've heard Rand is more Tea Party than Libertarian. Which hopefully means handing the reigns over to him will crash the "revolution".

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Postby Death Metal » Sun May 13, 2012 12:11 am

Wikkiwallana wrote:I've heard Rand is more Tea Party than Libertarian.


Eh, so is his dad.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sun May 13, 2012 12:13 am

Death Metal wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:I've heard Rand is more Tea Party than Libertarian.


Eh, so is his dad.

Sorry, I meant more modern Tea Party than his dad's faux-libertarianism.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun May 13, 2012 12:15 am

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
Eh, so is his dad.

Sorry, I meant more modern Tea Party than his dad's faux-libertarianism.

Shhhh I like to pretend neither of them exist.
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Postby TaQud » Sun May 13, 2012 4:42 am

Death Metal wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:I've heard Rand is more Tea Party than Libertarian.


Eh, so is his dad.

I wonder if THe Paul dynasty for Elections will ever stop? :meh:
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Postby Khadgar » Sun May 13, 2012 5:02 am

Jedi8246 wrote:I think the past 9 days have just gone on to show that Ron Paul's chances of becoming president are far more legitimate than most are willing to credit.

http://thereal2012delegatecount.com/

This count is based on actual results of state conventions. Ron Paul is only about 150 or so delegates behind Romney. We'll get a clearer picture come June. I'd also point that no delegates are bound to vote for anyone, due to Rule 38 of the RNC Election Rules.


I think it's cute when the Ronulans deny reality.

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Postby Laerod » Sun May 13, 2012 5:52 am

Khadgar wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:I think the past 9 days have just gone on to show that Ron Paul's chances of becoming president are far more legitimate than most are willing to credit.

http://thereal2012delegatecount.com/

This count is based on actual results of state conventions. Ron Paul is only about 150 or so delegates behind Romney. We'll get a clearer picture come June. I'd also point that no delegates are bound to vote for anyone, due to Rule 38 of the RNC Election Rules.


I think it's cute when the Ronulans deny reality.

It gets old.

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Postby NyxNyke » Sun May 13, 2012 6:18 am

Svobodu wrote:American voters are so lucky to have a man like Ron Paul as an option. 99.999% of all politicians are corrupt bureaucrats with no real interest in doing what is right for their country, but only gaining power and money. The vast majority of politicians stay away from specifics, have no plans, and have no idea about economics. They will say anything and openly lie to look good in public.

Ron Paul is the only politician I have ever seen to answer ALL questions directly and with specifics, truthfully. I guess we are lucky to have even one guy like him around willing to put up with the bullshit life of a politician.

Even if you don't agree with him, you cannot argue he isn't consistent, that he doesn't know his message, or he doesn't have a plan for his country to succeed.

RON PAUL 2012!


Thank you, I agree completely. While I don't agree with everything he says, I agree with how he came to his decisions.

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Postby Jedi8246 » Sun May 13, 2012 9:42 am

Khadgar wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:I think the past 9 days have just gone on to show that Ron Paul's chances of becoming president are far more legitimate than most are willing to credit.

http://thereal2012delegatecount.com/

This count is based on actual results of state conventions. Ron Paul is only about 150 or so delegates behind Romney. We'll get a clearer picture come June. I'd also point that no delegates are bound to vote for anyone, due to Rule 38 of the RNC Election Rules.


I think it's cute when the Ronulans deny reality.

The only one denying reality is people like you.
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Postby Arkinesia » Sun May 13, 2012 9:48 am

Khadgar wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:I think the past 9 days have just gone on to show that Ron Paul's chances of becoming president are far more legitimate than most are willing to credit.

http://thereal2012delegatecount.com/

This count is based on actual results of state conventions. Ron Paul is only about 150 or so delegates behind Romney. We'll get a clearer picture come June. I'd also point that no delegates are bound to vote for anyone, due to Rule 38 of the RNC Election Rules.

I think it's cute when the Ronulans deny reality.

I didn't realize Alien Space Bats was a Ronulan now.
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Postby Galla- » Sun May 13, 2012 9:50 am

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Pope Joan wrote:It would be a fantastic breath of fresh air for the party. New ideas! What a concept.

He would keep us out of Iran and Syria better than Romney or Obomba would.

I voted for him in NY, so this news fills me with glee.

Hm, I see he garnered 25% as many votes here as Romney did. No news coverage, though.


Ok...firstly, OBAMA is not trying to get us into Syria or Iran, so wherever you get your news from, stop watching it.


He'd get my vote if he were, tbh.
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Postby Jedi8246 » Sun May 13, 2012 9:55 am

Holy Trek wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:It would be a fantastic breath of fresh air for the party. New ideas! What a concept.

He would keep us out of Iran and Syria better than Romney or Obomba would.

I voted for him in NY, so this news fills me with glee.

Hm, I see he garnered 25% as many votes here as Romney did. No news coverage, though.


Ok...firstly, OBAMA is not trying to get us into Syria or Iran, so wherever you get your news from, stop watching it. Secondly, if we were to get involved in Syria, unlike Iraq in 2003 and like Libya last summer (?), we'd have international support, so it wouldn't be a US and select allies ONLY involvement, nor would it likely be a US-led intervention. Thirdly, and I believe I said this already, Ron Paul has ZERO chance of making such a sudden upset at the Convention that he knocks Romney off his high-horse and takes the nomination...and even if he did, he'd get beaten by Obama in November.

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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Sun May 13, 2012 9:56 am

NERVUN wrote:That it ain't gonna happen, no matter what the Paul supporters might wish.

It's happening; whether you like it or not NERVUN

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun May 13, 2012 10:24 am

So, suppose he manages to game the nomination, stack the delegates. He only got fractional support among his own party, didn't even manage to win a caucus state when that was supposed to be his advantage, and is now going to invalidate their entire primary. How is he to turn that into a winning presidency campaign? Is he going to game the electoral college? Turn the election into a caucus? The internet hasn't managed to turned its own enthusiasm into votes. Even if this shell game works, how is it supposed to turn into a winning campaign?
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Postby Bontivate » Sun May 13, 2012 10:27 am

It'd be hilarious if Ronnie Paul won the primary. Obama would crush 'im like a bug.
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Postby Jedi8246 » Sun May 13, 2012 10:34 am

Bontivate wrote:It'd be hilarious if Ronnie Paul won the primary. Obama would crush 'im like a bug.

Haha... no. Obama would get his butt kicked by someone who is genuine and not just some puppet for Goldman Sachs. Sorry, but Ron Paul will win.

-The GOP voters will never vote for Obama. Even if they don't want Ron Paul, they don't want Obama more.
-Non-interventionists will jump at the chance to vote for someone who actually advocates non-interventionism.
-A number of social liberals will vote for Ron Paul. He's a man that actually cares about personal liberty, unlike Obama who signs our rights with ease.

The fact is, Ron Paul gets more bipartisan support than most candidates ever do. His policies are enthused by people on both sides of the aisle and his presidency will be one that can unite our country.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun May 13, 2012 10:35 am

Jedi8246 wrote:
Bontivate wrote:It'd be hilarious if Ronnie Paul won the primary. Obama would crush 'im like a bug.

Haha... no. Obama would get his butt kicked by someone who is genuine and not just some puppet for Goldman Sachs. Sorry, but Ron Paul will win.

-The GOP voters will never vote for Obama. Even if they don't want Ron Paul, they don't want Obama more.
-Non-interventionists will jump at the chance to vote for someone who actually advocates non-interventionism.
-A number of social liberals will vote for Ron Paul. He's a man that actually cares about personal liberty, unlike Obama who signs our rights with ease.

The fact is, Ron Paul gets more bipartisan support than most candidates ever do. His policies are enthused by people on both sides of the aisle and his presidency will be one that can unite our country.

Why has none of this manifest itself in votes in contests that have actually happened?
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Postby Jedi8246 » Sun May 13, 2012 10:42 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:Haha... no. Obama would get his butt kicked by someone who is genuine and not just some puppet for Goldman Sachs. Sorry, but Ron Paul will win.

-The GOP voters will never vote for Obama. Even if they don't want Ron Paul, they don't want Obama more.
-Non-interventionists will jump at the chance to vote for someone who actually advocates non-interventionism.
-A number of social liberals will vote for Ron Paul. He's a man that actually cares about personal liberty, unlike Obama who signs our rights with ease.

The fact is, Ron Paul gets more bipartisan support than most candidates ever do. His policies are enthused by people on both sides of the aisle and his presidency will be one that can unite our country.

Why has none of this manifest itself in votes in contests that have actually happened?

Except it has. I frankly don't know what your talking about.
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Postby Bontivate » Sun May 13, 2012 10:43 am

Jedi8246 wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Why has none of this manifest itself in votes in contests that have actually happened?

Except it has. I frankly don't know what your talking about.


Elections aren't like golf. Lower numbers aren't better.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sun May 13, 2012 10:45 am

Laerod wrote:
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I think it's cute when the Ronulans deny reality.

It gets old.

So very, very old.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun May 13, 2012 10:46 am

Jedi8246 wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Why has none of this manifest itself in votes in contests that have actually happened?

Except it has. I frankly don't know what your talking about.

Did he win a primary I wasn't aware of? Has he won any election other than the senate seat he has?
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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Sun May 13, 2012 10:47 am

Bontivate wrote:It'd be hilarious if Ronnie Paul won the primary. Obama would crush 'im like a bug.

Not in debates. Ron Paul would crush Obama so bad in a debate just on foreign policy alone that Obama could respond only by stuttering and avoiding the question at hand.

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Postby Bontivate » Sun May 13, 2012 10:49 am

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:
Bontivate wrote:It'd be hilarious if Ronnie Paul won the primary. Obama would crush 'im like a bug.

Not in debates. Ron Paul would crush Obama so bad in a debate just on foreign policy alone that Obama could respond only by stuttering and avoiding the question at hand.


As far as I'm aware, Obama has been an excellent debater and Ron Paul has been an average one at best. In the Republican Primaries he never "crushed" anyone, what makes you think he stands a chance against Obama?
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