Is There a God?

[Samuraikoku]

How do you know your god is not created in an accident?

Tell that to the Eldar. *nods*

[Person012345]

Science and magic are becoming one and the same. Science has a lot of phenomena that can't be explained. Look at the behavior of electrons. We just snootily call the parts we understand the most science and feel accomplished.

So true. Completely agree. Espers are the true gods.

Except it's not true. You need to find out what science is. Science is a way of trying to understand the bits we don't understand. And it consistently leads us to the truth - the bits about electrons we understand, in this example.

[Mavorpen]

I didn't even list them, so what are you referencing? The single one that I said could be a contributor?

It seems that you're getting a little over-defensive and it's making you irrational. Are you upset because I'm communicating in a reasonable way and that doesn't work in your paradigm of religious people?

This has nothing to do with anything, so ignoring.

Here are just a few of the reasons it could have happened.

1. Glacial melt
2. Thermal expansion
3. Sea-floor spreading

Glacial melt does not create a global flooding. The closest it has done is flood some coastal areas, barely affecting the majority of land itself.
Same for thermal expansion.
What does sea floor spreading have to do with the flood?

[Mavorpen]

Most educated people would find the idea of a giant puff of hydrogen occurring out of nowhere and for no reason preposterous compared to the idea of an eternal, all-perfect Creator.

Actually, most educated people accept the first as plausible while the second being completely silly from a scientific standpoint.

Everything in science indicates that something is always caused by another, which in turn is caused by something else.

You've never heard of Quantum Mechanics, have you?

Sooner or later there must be a First Cause, and atheistic scientists have failed to provide information as to what that could be. It is not the theists who refuse to listen to the voice of reason.

Really? "Must"? Do explain what states everything must have a First Cause.

You're not an educated individual, are you?

[Norstal]

Also, global flooding could happen for many reasons. I know one of my ancestors (Brett) actually won an award for discovering that Michigan used to be underwater. Glacial melting contributed to a lot of flooded area.

Global flooding would have crushed a lot of aquatic organism with extreme amounts of pressure. That means no more fishy.

I mean, you realize how certain animals can only live on certain levels of the ocean, right? If you raise the level up, they will all die since adaptation takes more than a million years for them to properly survive.

[Genivaria]

How do you know your god is not created in an accident?

Tell that to the Eldar. *nods*

Bad Eldar! No orgies! Look what you did!

[Genivaria]

Also, global flooding could happen for many reasons. I know one of my ancestors (Brett) actually won an award for discovering that Michigan used to be underwater. Glacial melting contributed to a lot of flooded area.

Global flooding would have crushed a lot of aquatic organism with extreme amounts of pressure. That means no more fishy.

Not to mention the mixing of all the fresh and salt water in the world.

[Sailsia]

Short answer: No
Long answer: No.

Anymore questions?

[Vareiln]

Also, global flooding could happen for many reasons. I know one of my ancestors (Brett) actually won an award for discovering that Michigan used to be underwater. Glacial melting contributed to a lot of flooded area.

Global flooding would have crushed a lot of aquatic organism with extreme amounts of pressure. That means no more fishy.

*Screams wildly*
This cannot be allowed to happen! God must die!

[Samuraikoku]

Tell that to the Eldar. *nods*

Bad Eldar! No orgies! Look what you did!

The Exodites and the Craftworld Chief Farseers will tell you "It was our Dark cousins' fault, the depraved!"

[Genivaria]

Global flooding would have crushed a lot of aquatic organism with extreme amounts of pressure. That means no more fishy.

*Screams wildly*
This cannot be allowed to happen! God must die!

No. Fuck fish, they smell.

[Vareiln]

*Screams wildly*
This cannot be allowed to happen! God must die!

No. Fuck fish, they smell.

You have incurred my wrath, friend.

[Norstal]

*Screams wildly*
This cannot be allowed to happen! God must die!

No. Fuck fish, they smell.

If there's no fishy, that means no more Japanese people.

And that means no more animu! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Mavorpen]

No. Fuck fish, they smell.

If there's no fishy, that means no more Japanese people.

And that means no more animu! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Fuck the anime, no more hentai!

[Genivaria]

No. Fuck fish, they smell.

You have incurred my wrath, friend.

Bah, to hell with your wrath. All that extra pressure killed Cthulhu and destroyed R'lyeh.

[Samuraikoku]

No. Fuck fish, they smell.

If there's no fishy, that means no more Japanese people.

And that means no more animu! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

We can always count on Goku or Seiya to save the world.

Or me. *nods*

[The Nuclear Fist]

You have incurred my wrath, friend.

Bah, to hell with your wrath. All that extra pressure killed Cthulhu and destroyed R'lyeh.

I rebuilt it and saved him, though.

[Genivaria]

If there's no fishy, that means no more Japanese people.

And that means no more animu! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Fuck the anime, no more hentai!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKss2uYpih8

[Mavorpen]

Fuck the anime, no more hentai!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKss2uYpih8

Alternative version.

[The New World Oceania]

Of what?

Hell, I'd like that apotheosis to be of me. *sigh*

Convert to Mormonism?

[Samuraikoku]

Convert to Mormonism?

I'd rather prefer a:

Samuraikoku,

[Twilliamson]

I have no idea why atheists are bringing up the big bang, except to divert the attention of the posters. The Big Bang, if it existed (as it well might) could disprove creationism, but is unrelated to the question of God and to this discussion. God could simply have made the universe with the Big Bang and developed it with evolution. Even so, where could have the Big Bang come from? Most educated people would find the idea of a giant puff of hydrogen occurring out of nowhere and for no reason preposterous compared to the idea of an eternal, all-perfect Creator. Everything in science indicates that something is always caused by another, which in turn is caused by something else. Sooner or later there must be a First Cause, and atheistic scientists have failed to provide information as to what that could be. It is not the theists who refuse to listen to the voice of reason.

okay so if the universe can't have happen for no reason but god can just magicaly apper is stupid. You trying to logicaly explain why there most be a god backed fired and you look like the uneducated one. If you said that there no prove for god but you stil believe in God then i would be fine with that, but no you have to sound like to smart one even when you're reasoning makes no sence.

[Communal Ecotopia]

Truthfully, I don't know this and, probably, can't know this. I strongly suspect the answer is no, but to claim that I know this makes me little better than the fundamentalist evangelicals I can't usually stomach. Nonetheless, I prefer to act with kindness and good deeds towards my fellow humans and fellow creatures and try to leave the world better than I found it, and let the theological chips fall where they may.

[Nordengrund]

It is my fault, I brought up the Big Bang.

[Vareiln]

You have incurred my wrath, friend.

Bah, to hell with your wrath. All that extra pressure killed Cthulhu and destroyed R'lyeh.

What? Those things? Nah, they're harmless compared the the wrath of Kauhuhu.