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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:49 pm

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Genivaria wrote:Does anyone else here find a sort of detachment between the Christmas you grew up with and the Christmas you hear about from Christians?
Let me clarify, when I was a child Christmas was A Christmas Carol, How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, spending time your family, enjoying time off from work/school, Santa Claus, Jack Frost, Frosty the Snow Man.

In the movie A Christmas Carol, what did the Ghost of Christmas Present say Christmas was all about?
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Oh, it's fine.

I sort of keep the two separate, the secular Christmas and the Christian one. I do my own quiet little reverence, and then I spend my time with the family in the secular way because, hey, they're not religious, but I still love'em and the secular Christmas.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:49 pm

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Vaklor wrote:you dont get it, midnight was CREATED and STARTED when the big bang happened

how do we know the universe wasn't created on what we consider 2:00pm on a sunday, we don't know the exact date how far back the universe was created.


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Postby Cu Math » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:49 pm

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Cu Math wrote:When did jesus exist? Not using a calender arbitrarily designed hundreds after his supposed death. When did god create matter? Using a scientifically acceptable manner of measurement, not a mad trance by a starving man somewhere in the middle east?

When did we exist, how do we know the exact date of when the universe was created.

Because of the decay of radiation, the slow expansion of the universe at a steady rate, and the fact that the big bang is still affecting instruments in a way easily extrapolated from Much like the doppler effect combined with knowledge of the pitch at rest can easily give the speed of the object.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:49 pm

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Soviet Canuckistan wrote:My questions don't have to do with this thread, I can answer people besides you.

If your questions have nothing to do with this thread then why did you post them?

Most of this thread has nothing to do with the OP and i didn't post my questions that I want to ask here, they're from TG
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Postby Constaniana » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:49 pm

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Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Christmas is up there too.

And Thanksgiving is important to a lot of people as well. Guess what, we still joke about it.

Ok,,first off, Christmas is extremely important to Christians, and I love it, but I was trying to stay on topic, no offense.
Second, did you REALLY just try comparing EASTER to THANKSGIVING? Are you aware of how stupid an analogy that is? Thanksgiving is an entirley secular holiday created not by any church, but the US government. Thanksgiving is simply about being grateful, which you're supposed to be all year round. Easter is a Christian holiday celebrating the triumph of our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ over the bonds of death. I don't make fun of Easter because I'm showing reverence to the most important holiday of the year for Christians, other than Christmas.


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Postby Harkonna » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:49 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:I know, but if physics has all the answers how come we don't have an exact measure down to the nanosecond of when the universe was created.

Because they're working on it, and don't know yet you ignorant swine. They don't just make up a date and say, WE HAVE COMPLETE FAITH THAT IT HAPPENED AT THIS EXACT MOMENT. They actually carefully examine and collect evidence, and are willing to work through extremely complex mathematical equations in order to get as close as they absolutely can. If you're so worried about it, how about you actually find out instead of relying on ancient fairy tales. You insufferable nitwit!
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:49 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Oh, it's fine.

I sort of keep the two separate, the secular Christmas and the Christian one. I do my own quiet little reverence, and then I spend my time with the family in the secular way because, hey, they're not religious, but I still love'em and the secular Christmas.

I knew there was a reason I like you. :hug: Happy Easter.

You make sense finally.
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:49 pm

Renascibilitas wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Christmas is up there too.


Christmas is for pagans.

No it fucking isn't.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:50 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Time of the universe is measured in BILLIONS of YEARS.

I know, but if physics has all the answers how come we don't have an exact measure down to the nanosecond of when the universe was created.


Never said physics has all of the answers. I actually said the opposite a while back. READ.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:50 pm

Harkonna wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:I know, but if physics has all the answers how come we don't have an exact measure down to the nanosecond of when the universe was created.

Because they're working on it, and don't know yet you ignorant swine. If you're so worried about it, how about you actually find out instead of relying on ancient fairy tales. You insufferable nitwit!

See physics doesn't have the answers.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:50 pm

The Addams Family wrote:My activities will include throwing black dyed eggs at the Easter Parade and digging up graves.

Dude, wtf is wrong with you!?

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Postby Fedeledland » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:50 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Vaklor wrote:you dont get it, midnight was CREATED and STARTED when the big bang happened

how do we know the universe wasn't created on what we consider 2:00pm on a sunday, we don't know the exact date how far back the universe was created.



There was no 2:00 pm and no sunday because EARTHLY CALENDARS DIDN'T EXIST. The Big Bang was the start, the 0:00:00 of universal time.
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Postby Wisconsin7 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:51 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Time started with the Big Bang. So, day 0. :palm:

But how many days exactly, how do we know that our midnight is the midnight the universe was created on.

We don't claim that. We base midnight, and all time at or below the level of a day, on our geophysical position relative to the Earth's terminator.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:51 pm

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Soviet Canuckistan wrote:how do we know the universe wasn't created on what we consider 2:00pm on a sunday, we don't know the exact date how far back the universe was created.


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Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Harkonna wrote:Because they're working on it, and don't know yet you ignorant swine. If you're so worried about it, how about you actually find out instead of relying on ancient fairy tales. You insufferable nitwit!

See physics doesn't have the answers.


THEY DON'T HAVE THEM YET. You don't read a word of what we said, do you?
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:51 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Harkonna wrote:Because they're working on it, and don't know yet you ignorant swine. If you're so worried about it, how about you actually find out instead of relying on ancient fairy tales. You insufferable nitwit!

See physics doesn't have the answers.


Attacking straw men must be your specialty.
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Postby Cu Math » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:51 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Harkonna wrote:Because they're working on it, and don't know yet you ignorant swine. If you're so worried about it, how about you actually find out instead of relying on ancient fairy tales. You insufferable nitwit!

See physics doesn't have the answers.

Actually, they do. Because, unlike religion, physics has no human intervention. Its goddamned math.
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:52 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Addams Family wrote:My activities will include throwing black dyed eggs at the Easter Parade and digging up graves.

Dude, wtf is wrong with you!?

'Twas a reference to The Addams Family television show.
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Postby Heirosoloa » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:52 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:See physics doesn't have the answers.


Attacking straw men must be your specialty.


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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:53 pm

Fedeledland wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:See physics doesn't have the answers.


THEY DON'T HAVE THEM YET. You don't read a word of what we said, do you?

I do, religion has the answers, how do we not know God doesn't exist has physics proven that?
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Postby Hossaim » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:53 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I knew there was a reason I like you. :hug: Happy Easter.

You make sense finally.

Sadly your yet to make any.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:53 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
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A troll attempting to debate. And failing, hard.


What's scary is that he might be serious.
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Postby Finium » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:54 pm

Heirosoloa wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Attacking straw men must be your specialty.


Guess who took the Scarecrow's brain before Wizard of Oz?
Soviet Canuckistan.

:o what is wrong with you, you sick person. :rofl:
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Postby Not Kony Run Uganda » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:54 pm

The Akkadian Empire wrote: A shame that this is what it comes down to, kids parodying Christianity by comparing its Prophet to a brainless zombie, and celebrating his name by playing half a day of video games.

Me? I'll enjoy time with friends and family, at church and at home, while enjoying a feast that was made possible by the Messiah that you mock and his father.


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Postby Huskvarneque » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:54 pm

Fedeledland wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:how do we know the universe wasn't created on what we consider 2:00pm on a sunday, we don't know the exact date how far back the universe was created.



There was no 2:00 pm and no sunday because EARTHLY CALENDARS DIDN'T EXIST. The Big Bang was the start, the 0:00:00 of universal time.


This, time didn't exist until the big bang happened. It's just that simple, don't go over thinking things....

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