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Postby Orcoa » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:27 pm

Vitius wrote:Happy Passover.

Everyone just forgets about us...

Holy shit, it's Passover already?

Jeez I need to look at my calender more
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Postby The Akkadian Empire » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:28 pm

Harkonna wrote:
The Akkadian Empire wrote: Man has no way to know for sure that, billions of years ago that exactly happened. Man cannot even form a widely agreed basis on what happened a MILLION years ago.


The Christian creation story has been documentarily proven wrong at numerous points. Furthermore, currently, the best model we can fabricate based on evidence, is the big bang model, and the singularity theory. The bible is not based on evidence, it is a story that was created to reflect what the people of a long-dead nation thought to be true. Not reflective of a universal being. Game over.

This was never a game to begin with. For once I would wish to person I was speaking to with respond himself, and not have a stranger come in with his nonsensical hubris.

Since it has been proven wrong, explain what is wrong with it and what proof you have yourself, without the advancement of google.

You seem to have little Faith in the "Big Bang Model" and the "Singularity theory" yourself. So why should I bear the agony of listening further to your hollowed words?
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Postby Renascibilitas » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:28 pm

Wisconsin7 wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Opinion varies on how ling it's been around

Let me guess, you're on the side of "6000 years".


I really hope there's not anybody here who thinks the Sumerians invented glue before the world even existed.
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Postby Wisconsin7 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:28 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Wisconsin7 wrote:Let me guess, you're on the side of "6000 years".

No I'm on the billions of years side.

You're making progress.
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Postby Vaklor » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:28 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Opinion varies on how ling it's been around


The consensus is 13-14 billion years. The only ones who debate this are creationists with no real scientific evidence.

"We are forming consensus. Try again later." Or... something like that.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:28 pm

Avenio wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:goof point, lets go to 16 or so billion then


The Big Bang happened 13.75 billion years ago at current estimates, and thus was the beginning of time. Nothing happened before that.

It was a rough estimate, +/- 2.5 billion years, most of the Big Bang happened in seconds
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:28 pm

The Akkadian Empire wrote:
Since it has been proven wrong, explain what is wrong with it and what proof you have yourself, without the advancement of google.


Plants can't survive without our sun. GG.
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Postby Heirosoloa » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:29 pm

Renascibilitas wrote:
Wisconsin7 wrote:Let me guess, you're on the side of "6000 years".


I really hope there's not anybody here who thinks the Sumerians invented glue before the world even existed.



Surprise! Gravity is really just Sumerian super-glue.
Their glue created the universe.
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Postby Fedeledland » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:29 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Avenio wrote:
The Big Bang happened 13.75 billion years ago at current estimates, and thus was the beginning of time. Nothing happened before that.

It was a rough estimate, +/- 2.5 billion years, most of the Big Bang happened in seconds


...what does it happening in a short time have ANYTHING to do?
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Postby The Akkadian Empire » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:29 pm

Vitius wrote:Happy Passover.

Everyone just forgets about us...

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=173650

Don't worry, some of us have respect for the Orthodox and the Jews...
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:30 pm

Wisconsin7 wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:No I'm on the billions of years side.

You're making progress.

And I believe in evolution and physics, I just believe God created the stuff for physics to happen, just putting it out there.
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Postby Weyr Sular » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:30 pm

Finium wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Mother of gods... :shock:

Father of gods... :shock:
Just trying not to be sexist :roll:

Grandparents of Gods.

Yeah. Didn't see that coming did ya.

Then...Gods of Gods of Gods of etc.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:31 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Avenio wrote:
The Big Bang happened 13.75 billion years ago at current estimates, and thus was the beginning of time. Nothing happened before that.

It was a rough estimate, +/- 2.5 billion years, most of the Big Bang happened in seconds



NOPE.
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Postby Drouga » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:31 pm

Weyr Sular wrote:
Finium wrote:Father of gods... :shock:
Just trying not to be sexist :roll:

Grandparents of Gods.


Guess that would make them the...
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Elder Gods!

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Postby Fedeledland » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:31 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Wisconsin7 wrote:You're making progress.

And I believe in evolution and physics, I just believe God created the stuff for physics to happen, just putting it out there.


So you attack physics while believing in them? What?
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:31 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Wisconsin7 wrote:You're making progress.

And I believe in evolution and physics, I just believe God created the stuff for physics to happen, just putting it out there.


Which goes against what physics aims at.
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Postby Heirosoloa » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:31 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:It was a rough estimate, +/- 2.5 billion years, most of the Big Bang happened in seconds



NOPE.



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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:31 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:It was a rough estimate, +/- 2.5 billion years, most of the Big Bang happened in seconds



NOPE.

Chuck Testa, now when is the day the Universe started, anyone know?
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Postby Wisconsin7 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:32 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Wisconsin7 wrote:You're making progress.

And I believe in evolution and physics, I just believe God created the stuff for physics to happen, just putting it out there.

Well, it's better than nothing.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:32 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:And I believe in evolution and physics, I just believe God created the stuff for physics to happen, just putting it out there.


Which goes against what physics aims at.

For you but not for me
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Postby Avenio » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:32 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:It was a rough estimate, +/- 2.5 billion years,


You didn't know the number, it wasn't an estimate.

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:most of the Big Bang happened in seconds


Indeed? So you accept the model of the universe's early period presented by cosmologists?
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:32 pm

Wisconsin7 wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Opinion varies on how ling it's been around

Let me guess, you're on the side of "6000 years".

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Postby Vaklor » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:32 pm

Heirosoloa wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:

NOPE.



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Yep.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:33 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Which goes against what physics aims at.

For you but not for me


Whut? Science doesn't cater to your personal tastes. If it did, you wouldn't have your computer.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:33 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:

NOPE.

Chuck Testa, now when is the day the Universe started, anyone know?


This is in billions of years...
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