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Fedeledland
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Postby Fedeledland » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:54 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Fedeledland wrote:
THEY DON'T HAVE THEM YET. You don't read a word of what we said, do you?

I do, religion has the answers, how do we not know God doesn't exist has physics proven that?


BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE TO DISPROVE. YOU HAVE TO PROVE. THAT IS HOW LOGICS WORK. SO NOT KNOW IS NOT A VALID ARGUMENT.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:54 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Fedeledland wrote:
THEY DON'T HAVE THEM YET. You don't read a word of what we said, do you?

I do, religion has the answers, how do we not know God doesn't exist has physics proven that?


>Implying that an answer is always right.
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Postby Vaklor » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:55 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Fedeledland wrote:
THEY DON'T HAVE THEM YET. You don't read a word of what we said, do you?

I do, religion has the answers, how do we not know God doesn't exist has physics proven that?

Just because you have an answer doesn't mean it's the right one. And how do we know that The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist? We don't. Therefore, he does. Christian logic is circular logic.
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Postby Jerusalem and Damascus » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:55 pm

Hossaim wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:You make sense finally.

Sadly your yet to make any.

YOU CANNOT ASSUME SOMETHING IS TRUE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PROVE IT ISN'T. YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT IF I STAB MYSELF IN THE THROAT WITH A KNIFE I WONT BE RE-CREATED IN ANOTHER, BETTER UNIVERSE. DOES THAT MEAN I SHOULD STAB MYSELF IN THE THROAT? NO, BECAUSE LOGIC AND REASONING SAY I SHOULDN'T. WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THIS. I FEEL LIKE IM TALKING TO A BRICK WALL.


/end rage on human stupidity


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Postby Heirosoloa » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:56 pm

Not Kony Run Uganda wrote:
Hossaim wrote: A shame that this is what it comes down to, kids parodying Christianity by comparing its Prophet to a brainless zombie, and celebrating his name by playing half a day of video games.

Me? I'll enjoy time with friends and family, at church and at home, while enjoying a feast that was made possible by the Messiah that you mock and his father.


That.


Since when are they mutually exclusive?

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:56 pm

Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Hossaim wrote:Sadly your yet to make any.

YOU CANNOT ASSUME SOMETHING IS TRUE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PROVE IT ISN'T. YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT IF I STAB MYSELF IN THE THROAT WITH A KNIFE I WONT BE RE-CREATED IN ANOTHER, BETTER UNIVERSE. DOES THAT MEAN I SHOULD STAB MYSELF IN THE THROAT? NO, BECAUSE LOGIC AND REASONING SAY I SHOULDN'T. WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THIS. I FEEL LIKE IM TALKING TO A BRICK WALL.


/end rage on human stupidity


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Postby Birkinghamia » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:57 pm

SMH at this thread. Can't we all just get a long and relax for once? "Agree to disagree", shall we say?
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Postby Harkonna » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:57 pm

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Postby Finium » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:57 pm

Heirosoloa wrote:
Not Kony Run Uganda wrote:
That.


Since when are they mutually exclusive?

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Postby Huskvarneque » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:58 pm

Birkinghamia wrote:SMH at this thread. Can't we all just get a long and relax for once? "Agree to disagree", shall we say?


NS? Agree to disagree??...........


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Nice one, got a good laugh from that xD

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:58 pm

Just ignore him and he'll go away.

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Postby Cu Math » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:58 pm

Hossaim wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:You make sense finally.

Sadly your yet to make any.

YOU CANNOT ASSUME SOMETHING IS TRUE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PROVE IT ISN'T. YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT IF I STAB MYSELF IN THE THROAT WITH A KNIFE I WONT BE RE-CREATED IN ANOTHER, BETTER UNIVERSE. DOES THAT MEAN I SHOULD STAB MYSELF IN THE THROAT? NO, BECAUSE LOGIC AND REASONING SAY I SHOULDN'T. WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THIS. I FEEL LIKE IM TALKING TO A BRICK WALL.

/end rage on human stupidity

Get the tranqs! He's having thoughts! He's been overexposed to pigheaded idiots with no knowledge of physics! Get him to an isolation ward and put on Neil Tyson! *runs off with patient gurney*
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Postby Renascibilitas » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:58 pm

Birkinghamia wrote:SMH at this thread. Can't we all just get a long and relax for once? "Agree to disagree", shall we say?


You can't ''agree to disagree' when somebody is spitting on basic understanding of the world around us.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:58 pm

Birkinghamia wrote:SMH at this thread. Can't we all just get a long and relax for once? "Agree to disagree", shall we say?


But father, that's boring! :(
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Hossaim » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:58 pm

Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Hossaim wrote:Sadly your yet to make any.

YOU CANNOT ASSUME SOMETHING IS TRUE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PROVE IT ISN'T. YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT IF I STAB MYSELF IN THE THROAT WITH A KNIFE I WONT BE RE-CREATED IN ANOTHER, BETTER UNIVERSE. DOES THAT MEAN I SHOULD STAB MYSELF IN THE THROAT? NO, BECAUSE LOGIC AND REASONING SAY I SHOULDN'T. WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THIS. I FEEL LIKE IM TALKING TO A BRICK WALL.


/end rage on human stupidity


Try, for all of us.

For Science.

I won't, because I am a man of logic. There is the same chance that I appear in another universe after stabbing myself as there is God existing. That is roughly 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%.If you want bet on a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance, fine, ill be here with smart and logical people betting on the
99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% chance.
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Postby Heirosoloa » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:59 pm

Genivaria wrote:Just ignore him and he'll go away.


Quote/point or everyone just gets really confused.

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Soviet Canuckistan
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:59 pm

Religion is a theory, a lot of stuff surrounding the Big-Bang is theory such as existence of certain particles and such, we all have our own theories, both sides have their unknowns.
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Postby Jerusalem and Damascus » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:59 pm

Hossaim wrote:
Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Try, for all of us.

For Science.

I won't, because I am a man of logic. There is the same chance that I appear in another universe after stabbing myself as there is God existing. That is roughly 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%.If you want bet on a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance, fine, ill be here with smart and logical people betting on the
99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% chance.


Well it won't kill you to tr--

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Postby Condunum » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:59 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:When did we exist, how do we know the exact date of when the universe was created.

Time started with the Big Bang. So, day 0. :palm:

As far as I know, that's pretty wrong. From what I understand, time didn't actually start with the big bang.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:59 pm

Hossaim wrote:
Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Try, for all of us.

For Science.

I won't, because I am a man of logic. There is the same chance that I appear in another universe after stabbing myself as there is God existing. That is roughly 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%.If you want bet on a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance, fine, ill be here with smart and logical people betting on the
99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% chance.

How do you know the longshot won't win?
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Postby Renascibilitas » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:00 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Religion is a theory, a lot of stuff surrounding the Big-Bang is theory such as existence of certain particles and such, we all have our own theories, both sides have their unknowns.


Do you have a list of ''most refuted arguments in the history of the world'' that you check off when you're done posting?
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:00 pm

Heirosoloa wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Just ignore him and he'll go away.


Quote/point or everyone just gets really confused.

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Postby Cu Math » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:00 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Religion is a theory, a lot of stuff surrounding the Big-Bang is theory such as existence of certain particles and such, we all have our own theories, both sides have their unknowns.

Therefore, death is a theory. Therefore, i can kill you without punishment. *stab*
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:00 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Religion is a theory, a lot of stuff surrounding the Big-Bang is theory such as existence of certain particles and such, we all have our own theories, both sides have their unknowns.


Religion isn't a theory. It isn't even science. It's based off of circular logic and baseless assumptions. The existence of certain particles is mostly related to things such as string theory, not the Big Bang.
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Postby Vaklor » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:00 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Religion is a theory, a lot of stuff surrounding the Big-Bang is theory such as existence of certain particles and such, we all have our own theories, both sides have their unknowns.

Except basic logic can tell anyone religion is a bunch of hookey.
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