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Postby Renascibilitas » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:49 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
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"Thou shalt not kill" was broken throughout the whole damn Bible. Jainism and Buddhism hold true to that belief several times better than Christianity. Why should you respect your neighbor for no reason? "Leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" is how it's been for a long time. What "creation" are we respecting?

Show proof, and creation is our environment, if we respect our environment maybe we wouldn't be falling into our global warming apocalypse.


Are you seriously going to postulate the idea that religions that predated Christianity by thousands of years didn't develop those ideas first?
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:49 pm

Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:Sigh.

Really? All this negativity? Oh, come on guys, it's not the time for this. This is a time to be celebrating, even if it's not for Easter. It's bloody spring, and it's been so for a while! You're free for cold's brutal clutches and may now enjoy some semblance of warmth! Huzzah!

I like the cold actually. :(

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Postby Jerusalem and Damascus » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:49 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:Sigh.

Really? All this negativity? Oh, come on guys, it's not the time for this. This is a time to be celebrating, even if it's not for Easter. It's bloody spring, and it's been so for a while! You're free for cold's brutal clutches and may now enjoy some semblance of warmth! Huzzah!

Negativity?

Is light mocking negativity now? Really?


No, not him.

Ussss. The Christians. We're all getting upset over what is not really something to get upset over.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:50 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Where's the proof there, show us some proof.


Jain monks don't eat carrots. Know why? Because they have roots, therefore you would be killing the carrot. THAT'S how much they respect life. I'd say that defeats anything Jesus ever taught.

Then what do they eat as all vegetables are living, you can't survive on water
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:50 pm

Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:No, not him.

Ussss. The Christians. We're all getting upset over what is not really something to get upset over.

Oh whoops, my mistake, apologies.
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Postby Jerusalem and Damascus » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:50 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:Sigh.

Really? All this negativity? Oh, come on guys, it's not the time for this. This is a time to be celebrating, even if it's not for Easter. It's bloody spring, and it's been so for a while! You're free for cold's brutal clutches and may now enjoy some semblance of warmth! Huzzah!

I like the cold actually. :(


You do not live in the Ottawa Valley, this is why.

My beard has frozen on occasion here.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:50 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
"Thou shalt not kill" was broken throughout the whole damn Bible. Jainism and Buddhism hold true to that belief several times better than Christianity. Why should you respect your neighbor for no reason? "Leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" is how it's been for a long time. What "creation" are we respecting?

Show proof, and creation is our environment, if we respect our environment maybe we wouldn't be falling into our global warming apocalypse.


Proof of what? Care for the environment once again is not something Christianity came up with. In fact, Cynics held the philosophy centuries before Jesus even lived.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:50 pm

Renascibilitas wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Show proof, and creation is our environment, if we respect our environment maybe we wouldn't be falling into our global warming apocalypse.


Are you seriously going to postulate the idea that religions that predated Christianity by thousands of years didn't develop those ideas first?

But who created the people who postulated those ideas...God
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Postby Caninope » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:51 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Where's the proof there, show us some proof.


Jain monks don't eat carrots. Know why? Because they have roots, therefore you would be killing the carrot. THAT'S how much they respect life. I'd say that defeats anything Jesus ever taught.

So, Jainist monks don't eat anything?

After all, by eating something, you've killed something. Besides, last I checked, Jesus wasn't into the whole killing thing.
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Postby Fedeledland » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:51 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
"Thou shalt not kill" was broken throughout the whole damn Bible. Jainism and Buddhism hold true to that belief several times better than Christianity. Why should you respect your neighbor for no reason? "Leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" is how it's been for a long time. What "creation" are we respecting?

Show proof, and creation is our environment, if we respect our environment maybe we wouldn't be falling into our global warming apocalypse.


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Postby Renascibilitas » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:51 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Jain monks don't eat carrots. Know why? Because they have roots, therefore you would be killing the carrot. THAT'S how much they respect life. I'd say that defeats anything Jesus ever taught.

Then what do they eat as all vegetables are living, you can't survive on water


Because all vegetables are root vegetables. :roll:
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:51 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Jain monks don't eat carrots. Know why? Because they have roots, therefore you would be killing the carrot. THAT'S how much they respect life. I'd say that defeats anything Jesus ever taught.

Then what do they eat as all vegetables are living, you can't survive on water

Image

You've never heard of fruit?
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:51 pm

Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I like the cold actually. :(


You do not live in the Ottawa Valley, this is why.

My beard has frozen on occasion here.

Come to Alberta, it's bad there
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:51 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Then what do they eat as all vegetables are living, you can't survive on water

Image

You've never heard of fruit?

Fruit living too.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:51 pm

Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I like the cold actually. :(


You do not live in the Ottawa Valley, this is why.

My beard has frozen on occasion here.

*blinks* I'm sorry to hear that.
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Postby Fedeledland » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:51 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Renascibilitas wrote:
Are you seriously going to postulate the idea that religions that predated Christianity by thousands of years didn't develop those ideas first?

But who created the people who postulated those ideas...God


No. It was a sperm cell and an ovary.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:52 pm

Caninope wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Jain monks don't eat carrots. Know why? Because they have roots, therefore you would be killing the carrot. THAT'S how much they respect life. I'd say that defeats anything Jesus ever taught.

So, Jainist monks don't eat anything?

After all, by eating something, you've killed something. Besides, last I checked, Jesus wasn't into the whole killing thing.


:palm: What the fuck is going on? Ignorance, ignorance everywhere.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:52 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
You do not live in the Ottawa Valley, this is why.

My beard has frozen on occasion here.

*blinks* I'm sorry to hear that.
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Postby Caninope » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:52 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Then what do they eat as all vegetables are living, you can't survive on water

Image

You've never heard of fruit?

And by eating fruit, they've prevented new life from forming. They've killed a little embryo (the seed).
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Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:52 pm

Fedeledland wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:But who created the people who postulated those ideas...God


No. It was a sperm cell and an ovary.

Created by... God
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Postby Renascibilitas » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:52 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Renascibilitas wrote:
Are you seriously going to postulate the idea that religions that predated Christianity by thousands of years didn't develop those ideas first?

But who created the people who postulated those ideas...God


God must like contradictions. The morality of Hinduism and Jainism are completely incompatible with Christianity. How can they both be from the same source?
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― Christopher Hitchens

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:52 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Image

You've never heard of fruit?

Fruit living too.


Fruits aren't living. Fruits are simply growths of a plant meant to be eaten for seed dispersal.
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Postby Fedeledland » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:52 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Image

You've never heard of fruit?

Fruit living too.


No. The TREE and SEED are living but the fruit isn't. God.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:52 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Renascibilitas wrote:
Are you seriously going to postulate the idea that religions that predated Christianity by thousands of years didn't develop those ideas first?

But who created the people who postulated those ideas...God

Again. Proof or GTFO.

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Postby Finium » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:53 pm

I get the feeling that the gracious author of this thread was really hoping to pick a fight...
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