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by Death Metal » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:27 pm
by Death Metal » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:37 pm
WHS wrote:I feel it is unfair that he does not get as much media attention as the other candidates. I feel no of them can effectively run the country though.
by Revolutopia » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:39 pm
WHS wrote:I feel it is unfair that he does not get as much media attention as the other candidates. I feel no of them can effectively run the country though.
by Yootwopia » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:41 pm
WHS wrote:I feel it is unfair that he does not get as much media attention as the other candidates. I feel no of them can effectively run the country though.
by Ravineworld » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:43 pm
Death Metal wrote:WHS wrote:I feel it is unfair that he does not get as much media attention as the other candidates. I feel no of them can effectively run the country though.
No, it's fair. He's a fringe candidate even compared to the other fringe candidates, and the lack of media attention only helps his cause because the more he opens his mouth the more people realize that he's completely full of shit.
Should we give media attention to the Communist Party candidate? Because even he would be less extremist than Paul...
by Wikkiwallana » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:46 pm
Ravineworld wrote:Death Metal wrote:
No, it's fair. He's a fringe candidate even compared to the other fringe candidates, and the lack of media attention only helps his cause because the more he opens his mouth the more people realize that he's completely full of shit.
Should we give media attention to the Communist Party candidate? Because even he would be less extremist than Paul...
He's a fringe candidate?
Ever heard of Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney and Barrack Obama?
Oh, wait, they are all the same candidates
Ron Paul is the only one with views that are independent of the normal two party system. Not saying he's the best candidate out there...
That title is reserved for a tie between Buddy Roemer and Gary Johnson... and to a lesser extent, R. Lee Wrights.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Death Metal » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:47 pm
Ravineworld wrote:He's a fringe candidate?
Ever heard of Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney and Barrack Obama?
Oh, wait, they are all the same candidates
by Revolutopia » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:50 pm
Ravineworld wrote:He's a fringe candidate?
Ever heard of Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney and Barrack Obama?
Oh, wait, they are all the same candidates
Ron Paul is the only one with views that are independent of the normal two party system. Not saying he's the best candidate out there...
That title is reserved for a tie between Buddy Roemer and Gary Johnson... and to a lesser extent, R. Lee Wrights.
by Kaeshar » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:51 pm
Death Metal wrote:Ravineworld wrote:He's a fringe candidate?
Ever heard of Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney and Barrack Obama?
Oh, wait, they are all the same candidates
Except... not at all.
And of the four, only Santorum and Gingrich can be considered fringe, and even then they are closer to the mainstream GOP base than Paul ever will be.
Romney and Obama are moderates, but aren't even that similar as Romney is a conservative and Obama a progressive.
Whereas Paul is a bizarre mix of a confederate and a fascist.
by Ravineworld » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:52 pm
Wikkiwallana wrote:Ravineworld wrote:He's a fringe candidate?
Ever heard of Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney and Barrack Obama?
Oh, wait, they are all the same candidates
Ron Paul is the only one with views that are independent of the normal two party system. Not saying he's the best candidate out there...
That title is reserved for a tie between Buddy Roemer and Gary Johnson... and to a lesser extent, R. Lee Wrights.
Do you understand the definition of fringe? If you think you do, please explain it to us.
by Death Metal » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:57 pm
by Death Metal » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:59 pm
by Ravineworld » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:14 pm
Death Metal wrote:Ravineworld wrote:A bit of a personal comment there, maybe a hint of flame?
Fringe means extreme and away from the mainstream.
How was that a flame? At worst, that was suspicion of ignorance.
And again, how do you equate Paul as the only non-fringe candidate, especially when your critera pretty much is Paul to a T.
by Death Metal » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:16 pm
by Revolutopia » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:19 pm
Ravineworld wrote:Death Metal wrote:
How was that a flame? At worst, that was suspicion of ignorance.
And again, how do you equate Paul as the only non-fringe candidate, especially when your critera pretty much is Paul to a T.
He isn't away from the mainstream within the politics he identifies with. I.E. Constitution party politics and Libertarian Party politics
by Ravineworld » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:51 pm
Revolutopia wrote:Ravineworld wrote:He isn't away from the mainstream within the politics he identifies with. I.E. Constitution party politics and Libertarian Party politics
That is not really how you define fringe, instead you do from the general American perspective.
And out of that Paul along with the Libertarian and Constitution party are defined as fringe.
Hell, we got more Socialist members(Bernie Sanders) then we got Libertarian or Constitution Party(no one) members in congress.
by Allrule » Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:00 pm
Ravineworld wrote:Revolutopia wrote:
That is not really how you define fringe, instead you do from the general American perspective.
And out of that Paul along with the Libertarian and Constitution party are defined as fringe.
Hell, we got more Socialist members(Bernie Sanders) then we got Libertarian or Constitution Party(no one) members in congress.
Technically that isn't true. There is a single libertarian in the lower houses. I am finding their name right now.
by Revolutopia » Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:07 pm
Ravineworld wrote:Revolutopia wrote:
That is not really how you define fringe, instead you do from the general American perspective.
And out of that Paul along with the Libertarian and Constitution party are defined as fringe.
Hell, we got more Socialist members(Bernie Sanders) then we got Libertarian or Constitution Party(no one) members in congress.
Technically that isn't true. There is a single libertarian in the lower houses. I am finding their name right now.
by Puissancevise » Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:09 pm
by Death Metal » Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:15 pm
Puissancevise wrote:I think it is a perfect symbol of what we are doing to the middle east.
by Ravineworld » Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:15 pm
Revolutopia wrote:Ravineworld wrote:Technically that isn't true. There is a single libertarian in the lower houses. I am finding their name right now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_members_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives
That is Wikipedia's current list of members of the House, and there is not one independent or third partier found in the whole list of the 435 members. There might be an individual who additionally classifies themselves as Libertarian, but they either ran as a Republican or Democrat.
There are only two independent currently serving in the US Congress, that of Senator Bernie Sanders and Senator Droopy...I mean Joe Lieberman.
by Kaeshar » Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:16 pm
Puissancevise wrote:I like the ad. I think it is a perfect symbol of what we are doing to the middle east. I like it. I hope he runs under a third party in 4 years so i can vote for him.
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