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by Ravineworld » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:20 pm
by Revolutopia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:24 pm
Ravineworld wrote:Ron Paul isn't a racist. But racist's do like him a lot.
by Allrule » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:40 pm
Revolutopia wrote:Ravineworld wrote:Ron Paul isn't a racist. But racist's do like him a lot.
No he just allows racists to ghostwrite as him for profit, while at the same time hanging around with racist organization to establish a base of support and various other actions. But, no he is not racist or anything. There is more evidence that he is racist then there is of him being anti-big government.
by Dempublicents1 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:42 pm
Allrule wrote:You do realize that even if dear old Ronnie gave a speech denouncing Lincoln's legacy and calling for the return of slavery, these guys would still say he somehow wasn't racist?
by Revolutopia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:54 pm
Allrule wrote:Revolutopia wrote:
No he just allows racists to ghostwrite as him for profit, while at the same time hanging around with racist organization to establish a base of support and various other actions. But, no he is not racist or anything. There is more evidence that he is racist then there is of him being anti-big government.
You do realize that even if dear old Ronnie gave a speech denouncing Lincoln's legacy and calling for the return of slavery, these guys would still say he somehow wasn't racist?
by Dondleslavia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:58 pm
by Tlaceceyaya » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:59 pm
Dondleslavia wrote:Ron Paul would not be welcome in Dondleslavia. Well, okay, he would be. But I would not be happy about it!
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by Revolutopia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:18 pm
RPJVAJRP wrote:How in the world is Ron Paul even remotly rascist?
by Death Metal » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:42 pm
RPJVAJRP wrote:How in the world is Ron Paul even remotly rascist?
by Allrule » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:45 pm
by Ravineworld » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:47 pm
Revolutopia wrote:Ravineworld wrote:Ron Paul isn't a racist. But racist's do like him a lot.
No he just allows racists to ghostwrite as him for profit, while at the same time hanging around with racist organization to establish a base of support and various other actions. But, no he is not racist or anything. There is more evidence that he is racist then there is of him being anti-big government.
by Revolutopia » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:51 pm
Ravineworld wrote:Revolutopia wrote:
No he just allows racists to ghostwrite as him for profit, while at the same time hanging around with racist organization to establish a base of support and various other actions. But, no he is not racist or anything. There is more evidence that he is racist then there is of him being anti-big government.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ron_Paul
Just read some of those quotes, then read the "newsletters" quotes. The writing style is totally different, the way he talks is totally different, and his positions are totally different. I just am saying, after reading the two, you can't deny the fact that the way he talks is totally different. And even if he were a racist, if he stands up for himself and doesn't sell out, then I still respect.
by Death Metal » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:50 pm
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by Death Metal » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:51 am
by Grave_n_idle » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:18 am
Ravineworld wrote:Revolutopia wrote:
No he just allows racists to ghostwrite as him for profit, while at the same time hanging around with racist organization to establish a base of support and various other actions. But, no he is not racist or anything. There is more evidence that he is racist then there is of him being anti-big government.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ron_Paul
Just read some of those quotes, then read the "newsletters" quotes. The writing style is totally different, the way he talks is totally different, and his positions are totally different. I just am saying, after reading the two, you can't deny the fact that the way he talks is totally different. And even if he were a racist, if he stands up for himself and doesn't sell out, then I still respect.
by Ravineworld » Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:38 am
Death Metal wrote:Even if he weren't, his policies are childish at best.
It's like he played SimCity one day and fancied himself a master politician and economist based on that alone.
Well, no. That's not fair. Because even in SimCity you can't run a government without taxes.
by Natapoc » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:17 am
Ravineworld wrote:Death Metal wrote:Even if he weren't, his policies are childish at best.
It's like he played SimCity one day and fancied himself a master politician and economist based on that alone.
Well, no. That's not fair. Because even in SimCity you can't run a government without taxes.
But you can run a government without taxes. If you privatize everything and basically let the states have their own governments, the fed can exist without taxes. Just look at alaska, they have no personal income tax, no sales tax, and the government pays several thousand dollars every year to the citizens of the state. So you are wrong
by Ravineworld » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:29 am
Natapoc wrote:Ravineworld wrote:But you can run a government without taxes. If you privatize everything and basically let the states have their own governments, the fed can exist without taxes. Just look at alaska, they have no personal income tax, no sales tax, and the government pays several thousand dollars every year to the citizens of the state. So you are wrong
Alaska? You mean the quazi fascist state of Alaska? The welfare state of alaska with several state owned companies?
How do they run their state without charging their people taxes? Well, besides the state owned companies Alaska gets back $1.84 for ever dollar it's people spend in taxes from the federal government. In other words they are making a huge profit on federal taxes.
A profit skimmed off taxation of individuals in other states.
"Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell announced Friday that every eligible man, woman and child will receive $2,069, thanks to dividend payments from the state’s oil royalty investment program distributed annually. On top of that, the checks will include another $1,200 from the state treasury to help offset soaring fuel prices."
I did not know libertarians considered the state controlling industry and distributing the proceeds to people to be a good idea.
If there was no federal income tax, Alaska would have to straighten up and learn some fiscal responsibility.
by Farnhamia » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:46 am
Ravineworld wrote:Natapoc wrote:
Alaska? You mean the quazi fascist state of Alaska? The welfare state of alaska with several state owned companies?
How do they run their state without charging their people taxes? Well, besides the state owned companies Alaska gets back $1.84 for ever dollar it's people spend in taxes from the federal government. In other words they are making a huge profit on federal taxes.
A profit skimmed off taxation of individuals in other states.
"Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell announced Friday that every eligible man, woman and child will receive $2,069, thanks to dividend payments from the state’s oil royalty investment program distributed annually. On top of that, the checks will include another $1,200 from the state treasury to help offset soaring fuel prices."
I did not know libertarians considered the state controlling industry and distributing the proceeds to people to be a good idea.
If there was no federal income tax, Alaska would have to straighten up and learn some fiscal responsibility.
Please give some sources.
by Ravineworld » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:10 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Ravineworld wrote:Please give some sources.
Ask and you shall ... It's from 2008, of course, but that's what they do in Alaska, they redistribute wealth. All perfectly legitimate.
by Cromarty » Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:01 pm
Ravineworld wrote:Death Metal wrote:Even if he weren't, his policies are childish at best.
It's like he played SimCity one day and fancied himself a master politician and economist based on that alone.
Well, no. That's not fair. Because even in SimCity you can't run a government without taxes.
But you can run a government without taxes. If you privatize everything and basically let the states have their own governments, the fed can exist without taxes. Just look at alaska, they have no personal income tax, no sales tax, and the government pays several thousand dollars every year to the citizens of the state. So you are wrong
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by Ravineworld » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:25 pm
Cromarty wrote:Ravineworld wrote:But you can run a government without taxes. If you privatize everything and basically let the states have their own governments, the fed can exist without taxes. Just look at alaska, they have no personal income tax, no sales tax, and the government pays several thousand dollars every year to the citizens of the state. So you are wrong
Alaska is home to 8 people, and all of them are Polar Bears.
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