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Postby Free Soviets » Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:09 am

Farnhamia wrote:
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Don't they already have Gary Johnson running for the nomination? He's probably pretty far ahead.

I think if Ron Paul asked to be the nominee they'd accomodate him, don't you? Just on name recognition alone.

especially since johnson has endorsed him repeatedly

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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:15 am

ron paul is not going to run on the libertarian ticket unless his son wants to run as a libertarian in the future. dr paul is playing the long game and its not time yet to give up the boost that being a republican gives him.
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Postby Tahar Joblis » Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:30 am

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Death Metal wrote:To call Ron Paul a constitutionalist is like calling Taco Bell authentic Mexican food.

If anything, he's an Articles Of Confederationist.

Not really. The guy believes in following the constitution as he interprets it, which is constitutionalism. He is more of a right wing libertarian though.

Excepting Article VI (which applies federal constitutional law to states), Amendment I (separation of church and states), Amendment XVI and XVII (which he explicitly wants to repeal). His interpretation of Amendment XIV is Plessy-friendly at best. And he would have preferred, from what I can tell, that slavery ended voluntarily on a state-by-state basis, which would be Amendment XIII. And if he knew what Amendment IX actually said, he would find that his "We the people" act is all about trampling over it.

He's not just interpreting the Constitution bizarrely; he also wants to very substantially amend it.
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Postby United Dependencies » Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:51 am

One Thread to bring them all and in the darkness Bind them!
In the land of NSG, where the shadows lie...

62 pages and no one has said it. come on.
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Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:08 am

United Dependencies wrote:One Thread to bring them all and in the darkness Bind them!
In the land of NSG, where the shadows lie...

62 pages and no one has said it. come on.

Ahem ...
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Postby United Dependencies » Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:28 am

Farnhamia wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:One Thread to bring them all and in the darkness Bind them!
In the land of NSG, where the shadows lie...

62 pages and no one has said it. come on.

Ahem ...

It's in the same vein.
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

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Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:27 pm

Ur-Mordor wrote:Everyone has to die, life is miserable.

Ron Paul, please get cancer.

Wow, that's one syllable away from being the meanest haiku I've ever read.
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Postby Death Metal » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:35 pm

Change the "has to" into a "will", and it fits, albeit not in the standard format.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:38 pm

Death Metal wrote:Change the "has to" into a "will", and it fits, albeit not in the standard format.

Actually, I meant it was one syllable short, not over.
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I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
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Postby Death Metal » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:41 pm

It's 18 syllables though...
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:00 pm

Death Metal wrote:It's 18 syllables though...

Likely because of my accent, but "every" is being counted as only 1.

Also, on recount, I now get 17 instead of 16, even while counting "every" as 1 syllable. I missed a syllable in the last line on my previous count.
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I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
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Postby Streamland » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:01 pm

Death Metal wrote:It's 18 syllables though...


Depends on your accent. I personally pronounce miserable with 3.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:08 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Death Metal wrote:It's 18 syllables though...

Likely because of my accent, but "every" is being counted as only 1.

Also, on recount, I now get 17 instead of 16, even while counting "every" as 1 syllable. I missed a syllable in the last line on my previous count.


One syllable? I can make it two, with my London laziness... how do you get to one?
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:12 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Likely because of my accent, but "every" is being counted as only 1.

Also, on recount, I now get 17 instead of 16, even while counting "every" as 1 syllable. I missed a syllable in the last line on my previous count.


One syllable? I can make it two, with my London laziness... how do you get to one?

"Evry" and blend the v and r so that they are practically one letter.

Then realize you are an idiot and it's still two syllables.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Streamland » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:14 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
One syllable? I can make it two, with my London laziness... how do you get to one?

"Evry" and blend the v and r so that they are practically one letter.

Then realize you are an idiot and it's still two syllables.



There is a strict rule in phonetic saying that a syllable must contain one and exactly one vowel. "every" has too vowels because the -ver- consonant particle inside is not silent.
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At the beginning there was nothing except for Me and the Word. And then I used the Word to make everything. It was a fragile, entropic, continuously changing world that encompassed both light and darkness, sadness and joy, agony and ecstasy, sin and rescue. I looked down at that barely holding piece of mud, and it was good. I looked up at the entire universe, an unstable sandstorm of stars that would fade just as inevitably as the souls of man, and it was good. There was only one thing out of place, one thing that did not belong: Myself.

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Postby Aquophia » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:19 pm

Never understood haikus. 17 syllables seems so random and arbitrary.

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Postby Streamland » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:20 pm

Aquophia wrote:Never understood haikus. 17 syllables seems so random and arbitrary.


Japanese people have their 17 and 4, Chinese have their 108, Christians have their trinity.

Can you really say who is the stupid and random one here? (I can but wtvr)
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:20 pm

Streamland wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:"Evry" and blend the v and r so that they are practically one letter.

Then realize you are an idiot and it's still two syllables.



There is a strict rule in phonetic saying that a syllable must contain one and exactly one vowel. "every" has too vowels because the -ver- consonant particle inside is not silent.

It is around here.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Streamland » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:25 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Streamland wrote:

There is a strict rule in phonetic saying that a syllable must contain one and exactly one vowel. "every" has too vowels because the -ver- consonant particle inside is not silent.

It is around here.


Then you get the triphthong rule. Since you take -ver- as silent, you must subvocalize it until the word itself sounds like iui. And since a triphthong cannot exist if two of the sounds within are identical or anyway really similar, you have that.

You can also argue that since the first "E" is a long vowel (:), it forces a hiatus.
At the beginning there was nothing except for Me and the Word. And then I used the Word to make everything. It was a fragile, entropic, continuously changing world that encompassed both light and darkness, sadness and joy, agony and ecstasy, sin and rescue. I looked down at that barely holding piece of mud, and it was good. I looked up at the entire universe, an unstable sandstorm of stars that would fade just as inevitably as the souls of man, and it was good. There was only one thing out of place, one thing that did not belong: Myself.

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Postby Aquophia » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:26 pm

Streamland wrote:
Aquophia wrote:Never understood haikus. 17 syllables seems so random and arbitrary.


Japanese people have their 17 and 4, Chinese have their 108, Christians have their trinity.

Can you really say who is the stupid and random one here? (I can but wtvr)
Yeah I figured it was probably religiously based. Still don't like haikus. They have no rhythm to them and when recited, they always sound terribly emo.

I remember watching an episode of Avatar:The Last Airbender. They all got into a Haiku battle. Guess that's the asian version of rap battles. :p

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:27 pm

Streamland wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:It is around here.


Then you get the triphthong rule. Since you take -ver- as silent, you must subvocalize it until the word itself sounds like iui. And since a triphthong cannot exist if two of the sounds within are identical or anyway really similar, you have that.

You can also argue that since the first "E" is a long vowel (:), it forces a hiatus.

You've never heard a southerner say "every" have you? Spelling is more of suggestion than a rule around here.
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I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Death Metal » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:29 pm

Aquophia wrote:
Streamland wrote:
Japanese people have their 17 and 4, Chinese have their 108, Christians have their trinity.

Can you really say who is the stupid and random one here? (I can but wtvr)
Yeah I figured it was probably religiously based. Still don't like haikus. They have no rhythm to them and when recited, they always sound terribly emo.

I remember watching an episode of Avatar:The Last Airbender. They all got into a Haiku battle. Guess that's the asian version of rap battles. :p


That's because Haiku translations rarely flow well. Same with songs.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:31 pm

Ok, I really didn't mean to derail this thread like this. Can we get back on topic before a mod comes by and yells at me?
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
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Postby Aquophia » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:32 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:Ok, I really didn't mean to derail this thread like this. Can we get back on topic before a mod comes by and yells at me?

What topic?

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Postby Streamland » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:45 pm

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Wikkiwallana wrote:Ok, I really didn't mean to derail this thread like this. Can we get back on topic before a mod comes by and yells at me?

What topic?


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