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What is your favorite type of communism?

Marxism
19
24%
Leninism
6
8%
Trotskyism
11
14%
Maoism
5
6%
Stalinism
4
5%
Castroism
2
3%
Anarcho-communism
24
30%
Council communism
5
6%
Hoxhaism
3
4%
 
Total votes : 79

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Re: Types of communism

Postby Niur » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:16 pm

Fassitude wrote:
Niur wrote:
Fassitude wrote:This is sort of like asking me what my "favourite" type of diarrhoea would be. I'd rather not have the runs or communism, thank you very much.

then don't reply.

You do not grasp the concept of a discussion forum, do you? Of course not. Communists aren't big on dissent and objecting opinions. They're pesky, what with disturbing the communist delusions with facts and reality and all that actually sane jazz.

I'm just saying if you hate communism so much, why are you repliying on a topic clearly marked "communism"? I don't have anything against discussing with you, I am just honestly curious. Is that so wrong?
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Re: Types of communism

Postby Natapoc » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:16 pm

3 Stalinists already? seriously? I though the only Stalinists left worked at revolution books in new york ;)

Can you explain why you think stalinism is the best of the mentioned types?

Are you guys just joking or do we have some serious authoritarian revolutionaries on this forum?
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Re: Types of communism

Postby Massicut » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:17 pm

Kantanska wrote:I do not think that one man should be able to control over a nation however the State needs to control the Economy


I agree with this! My nation has adopted Mikeism. Named after me our leader and inventer of the concept. Hail Mikeism!~ :bow:
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Re: Types of communism

Postby Kantanska » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:17 pm

Brogavia wrote:
Kantanska wrote:I do not think that one man should be able to control over a nation however the State needs to control the Economy


Why?

And using logic, not emotion, please. No heartstrings hijacking.

As they say, Communists have hearts, Captialists have brains.


Because the heads of corperations are only interested in the bottom line. some one needs to protect the workers

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Re: Types of communism

Postby Niur » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:18 pm

I think that Stalinism gets a bad rep because its named after Stalin.
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Re: Types of communism

Postby Natapoc » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:19 pm

Fassitude wrote:
Niur wrote:
Fassitude wrote:This is sort of like asking me what my "favourite" type of diarrhoea would be. I'd rather not have the runs or communism, thank you very much.

then don't reply.

You do not grasp the concept of a discussion forum, do you? Of course not. Communists aren't big on dissent and objecting opinions. They're pesky, what with disturbing the communist delusions with facts and reality and all that actually sane jazz.


Oh stop making stuff up ;) I love dissent. It is just the authoritarian communists who don't (same with authoritarian capitalists which are much more numerous). The rest of us fully support and encourage your right to complain as much as you want as long as you don't try to boss anyone else around ;)
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Re: Types of communism

Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:19 pm

Niur wrote:I think that Stalinism gets a bad rep because its named after Stalin.

some people are so judgemental aren't they?

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Re: Types of communism

Postby Kantanska » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:19 pm

That's True

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Re: Types of communism

Postby Brogavia » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:19 pm

Niur wrote:
Fassitude wrote:
Niur wrote:
Fassitude wrote:This is sort of like asking me what my "favourite" type of diarrhoea would be. I'd rather not have the runs or communism, thank you very much.

then don't reply.

You do not grasp the concept of a discussion forum, do you? Of course not. Communists aren't big on dissent and objecting opinions. They're pesky, what with disturbing the communist delusions with facts and reality and all that actually sane jazz.

I'm just saying if you hate communism so much, why are you repliying on a topic clearly marked "communism"? I don't have anything against discussing with you, I am just honestly curious. Is that so wrong?


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Re: Types of communism

Postby Fassitude » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:20 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:you shall be overthrown with the rest of the bourgeoisie overlords. in a peaceful manner as marx intended.

And you shall fail in your endeavours. Again. As history's proved.

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Re: Types of communism

Postby Kantanska » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:21 pm

Fassitude wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:you shall be overthrown with the rest of the bourgeoisie overlords. in a peaceful manner as marx intended.

And you shall fail in your endeavours. Again. As history's proved.


Why will we fail?

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Re: Types of communism

Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:22 pm

Fassitude wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:you shall be overthrown with the rest of the bourgeoisie overlords. in a peaceful manner as marx intended.

And you shall fail in your endeavours. Again. As history's proved.

eh that was the wrong countries, it was meant to be in the Wealthy Western countries not the poorer Eastern ones.
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Re: Types of communism

Postby Brogavia » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:22 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Fassitude wrote:
Niur wrote:
Fassitude wrote:This is sort of like asking me what my "favourite" type of diarrhoea would be. I'd rather not have the runs or communism, thank you very much.

then don't reply.

You do not grasp the concept of a discussion forum, do you? Of course not. Communists aren't big on dissent and objecting opinions. They're pesky, what with disturbing the communist delusions with facts and reality and all that actually sane jazz.


Oh stop making stuff up ;) I love dissent. It is just the authoritarian communists who don't (same with authoritarian capitalists which are much more numerous). The rest of us fully support and encourage your right to complain as much as you want as long as you don't try to boss anyone else around ;)


Communism is only sustainable through mass state oppression and micro managing its citizens lives.

Otherwise it would fall apart very rapidly.
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Re: Types of communism

Postby Berzerkirs » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:22 pm

Types of Communism, eh?

*cough*Feudalism*cough*

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Re: Types of communism

Postby Niur » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:23 pm

I live in a capitolist country, and I know this is not the "Truth". Theres homeless people begging for money on every corner, these people werent born this way, they were layed off because companies, "don't" have emotions, they are cruel, heartless, conglomerates that only care about money.
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Re: Types of communism

Postby Tubbsalot » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:23 pm

This poll is incredibly depressing. The first post was even worse.

"I like Stalin because he didn't care who died under his regime! Also he's cool because someone needs to protect the workers!!!"
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Re: Types of communism

Postby Kantanska » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:24 pm

Niur wrote:I live in a capitolist country, and I know this is not the "Truth". Theres homeless people begging for money on every corner, these people werent born this way, they were layed off because companies, "don't" have emotions, they are cruel, heartless, conglomerates that only care about money.


Capitalism will never work Communism is the only way

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Re: Types of communism

Postby Niur » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:25 pm

Tubbsalot wrote:This poll is incredibly depressing.

how so?
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Re: Types of communism

Postby Mackedamia » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:25 pm

Marxisim for the pure fact that it was meant for the better good of the people(however, I believe in regulated capitalisim)
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Re: Types of communism

Postby Neu Leonstein » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:25 pm

Kantanska wrote:Because the heads of corperations are only interested in the bottom line. some one needs to protect the workers

You do realise that Stalinism was tried, and it turned out that the state wasn't particularly interested in the wellbeing of the workers, right?

I mean, Stalinism was a horrid system by just about any criterion someone on the left (and indeed, most on the right) usually cares about: it didn't improve inequality, it didn't improve welfare, it absolutely fucked up the environment, it was unfree to the extreme and made extensive use of slave labour and what economic growth it produced was squandered on guns.
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Re: Types of communism

Postby Natapoc » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:26 pm

Brogavia wrote:
Communism is only sustainable through mass state oppression and micro managing its citizens lives.

Otherwise it would fall apart very rapidly.


Why do you say that? Under anarcho communism there would not even be a state to oppress "citizens" and the whole concept of a "citizen" would not even really exist. How would that be oppressive? I would agree with you on some forms of communism but even many forms of communism that have a state are at least as democratic as modern capitalist liberal democracies.

I agree that state oppression is bad but that is true no matter the economic model of the country don't you think?
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Re: Types of communism

Postby Niur » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:26 pm

Kantanska wrote:
Niur wrote:I live in a capitolist country, and I know this is not the "Truth". Theres homeless people begging for money on every corner, these people werent born this way, they were layed off because companies, "don't" have emotions, they are cruel, heartless, conglomerates that only care about money.


Capitalism will never work Communism is the only way

this is what i am trying to say, capitolism doesnt care about the people, it only sees them as money.
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Re: Types of communism

Postby Fassitude » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:26 pm

Niur wrote:I'm just saying if you hate communism so much, why are you repliying on a topic clearly marked "communism"?

You've answered your own question. Also, mainly because you created a thread where you've deliberately tried to exclude people who don't like communism - thus making it even more pertinent for those who don't to post. You may have thought by omitting the "I don't like any type of communism" poll option that that would silence us who don't. Nope.

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Re: Types of communism

Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:26 pm

Kantanska wrote:Capitalism will never work Communism is the only way

You make but a small mistake: Capitalism *is* working. :lol2:
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Re: Types of communism

Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:26 pm

Niur wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:This poll is incredibly depressing.

how so?

i guess that guy feels sad, shame really Marxism is such a great idea. would cheer him/her right up if they knew more about it.

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