November 30th Strikes - UK

[Fartsniffage]

British Gas has been fined a couple of times in the last year by Ofgem.

For what?

Once for not dealing with small business account complaints in the correct manner (£2.5million) and once for claiming too much in FiT payments (£1million).

If I remember correctly.

[Bales Rant]

For what?

Once for not dealing with small business account complaints in the correct manner (£2.5million) and once for claiming too much in FiT payments (£1million).

If I remember correctly.

Indeed. Mishandling complaints and misreporting the amount of energy it gets from renewable sources. But that's not being fined over high prices because Ofgem can't do that.

[The UK in Exile]

Every person who has participated in these strikes should be ashamed! Their employers should have a right to fire these lazy bastards, they should be happy that they have a job in the first place. And apparently they don't appreciate it.. This is exactly what happens when unions have too much power.

for too much read: any?

[Fartsniffage]

Once for not dealing with small business account complaints in the correct manner (£2.5million) and once for claiming too much in FiT payments (£1million).

If I remember correctly.

Indeed. Mishandling complaints and misreporting the amount of energy it gets from renewable sources. But that's not being fined over high prices because Ofgem can't do that.

If Ofgem could show that the energy companies were operating as a cartel then they could discipline them. Anything from fines to removal of licenses.

[Free foundation]

pension system should be abolished and people shud be asked to save and invest for their retirement.

That's nonsense. Most wealth can't be stockpiled, so stockpiling money and using interests to pay for retirement anyway means taking from the goods produced at the time in which you are retired, meaning the system is exactly as vulnerable to demographic pressure or economical collapse as a redistribution system.

But the system creates an enormous amount of stockpiled money, which can easily inflate bubbles out of control, increase speculation, and all other destructive forces of the economy. And by encouraging people to save instead of spending, it slows down the real economy.

Redistribution system is the only one that makes sense.

any economic system can collapse . redistribution has high cost which usually increases both internal and external debts on a country. And saving doesnt slows down economy , it just doesn't fuel it to speculative levels. which was one of the essential cause of global economic meltdown.

[Bales Rant]

Indeed. Mishandling complaints and misreporting the amount of energy it gets from renewable sources. But that's not being fined over high prices because Ofgem can't do that.

If Ofgem could show that the energy companies were operating as a cartel then they could discipline them. Anything from fines to removal of licenses.

Fucking jokers. If Ofgem were everyday customers they'd soon realise there's a cartel in operation.

[Yootwopia]

Every person who has participated in these strikes should be ashamed! Their employers should have a right to fire these lazy bastards, they should be happy that they have a job in the first place. And apparently they don't appreciate it.. This is exactly what happens when unions have too much power.

I hope you know that you're a very boring poster.

[Glasgia]

NO SCHOOL!!! I have to take this seriously though coz my dad is a prof and therefore public-sector. He didn't go on strike thoguh

[The Archregimancy]

Every person who has participated in these strikes should be ashamed!

<looks at self in mirror>

<pokes self a couple of times>

Sorry, clearly not really feeling much shame here...

[Communist Roderikland]

Every person who has participated in these strikes should be ashamed! Their employers should have a right to fire these lazy bastards, they should be happy that they have a job in the first place. And apparently they don't appreciate it.. This is exactly what happens when unions have too much power.

Point is they are already fired, that is why they protest.

[Yootwopia]

NO SCHOOL!!! I have to take this seriously though coz my dad is a prof and therefore public-sector. He didn't go on strike thoguh

Boo, what a scab bastard. Unless his union wasn't on strike, obviously.

[Fartsniffage]

If Ofgem could show that the energy companies were operating as a cartel then they could discipline them. Anything from fines to removal of licenses.

Fucking jokers. If Ofgem were everyday customers they'd soon realise there's a cartel in operation.

They've tried to prove it about 10 times in the last decade. Never been able to.

[Myrth]

Every person who has participated in these strikes should be ashamed! Their employers should have a right to fire these lazy bastards, they should be happy that they have a job in the first place. And apparently they don't appreciate it.. This is exactly what happens when unions have too much power.

What a ridiculous statement. If everyone thought like this, industrial relations in the UK wouldn't have advanced since the 19th century. You can thank unions for minimum wages, for the weekend, for a pension at all, for a 9 to 5 working day, for paid holiday, for job security and for a host of other rights that you take for granted at work. If people hadn't been prepared to stand up for these rights and go out on strike, we wouldn't have any of them.

These attacks on public sector pensions are being made by a right-wing government for ideological reasons. The 'gold-plated' final salary schemes (average worth: £6,000 a year) of the past have already been closed, and the Hutton Review of pensions a couple of years ago determined current pensions WERE sustainable.

This government simply wants to make a scapegoat of public sector workers who are already enduring frozen pay at a time of high inflation, because they'd rather that than go after the real criminals here who are the Chief Execs paying themselves ever-increasing salaries and bonuses, and companies who avoid paying their taxes by registering in the Channel Islands/inserttaxhavenhere.

[Belvadaire]

I really encourage more people to get out there and voice their opinions, But I must say, prophecy can't be rewritten, things are going to ahve to have to take it's course, though I really support the people that's risking their freedoms all over the world, the more I see on the news that more protestors are taking to the streets, letting me know that more and more people are beginning to wake up about corrupt goverment, and at the same time it's not written in the Bible saying that people chnaged the fate of prophecy, It's hard for me to know the bible and support the OWS movement at the same time, knowing deep in my heart that's it's not going to change nothing, and it's going to bring more blood shed, people loosing their lives for future generations, we have to stay strong, and I truly hope that more christians get out theur voicing the word of God in front of goverment grounds, it is written that two prophests confronting a govement leader saying that he is the anti-christ, and the that very same leader had thetwo prophets killed, everyone witnessed, and the body of the prophets was tooken up by God himself, right before everyone eyes.... that day is coming very soon, i don't know when because i'm not the type to be saying things are going to happen at a exact date and time, I don't know, but what I do know, it's coming, everyone will be in awe, to experience the hand of God taking those prophets off the grounds into his bossom, evil is truly behind this, the word of God need to lead the voice of the people, preached to the Goverment, standing on truth. These events will happen swiftly so we must be prepared......Beloved be prepared.

[Farnhamia]

Every person who has participated in these strikes should be ashamed! Their employers should have a right to fire these lazy bastards, they should be happy that they have a job in the first place. And apparently they don't appreciate it.. This is exactly what happens when unions have too much power.

What a ridiculous statement. If everyone thought like this, industrial relations in the UK wouldn't have advanced since the 19th century. You can thank unions for minimum wages, for the weekend, for a pension at all, for a 9 to 5 working day, for paid holiday, for job security and for a host of other rights that you take for granted at work. If people hadn't been prepared to stand up for these rights and go out on strike, we wouldn't have any of them.

These attacks on public sector pensions are being made by a right-wing government for ideological reasons. The 'gold-plated' final salary schemes (average worth: £6,000 a year) of the past have already been closed, and the Hutton Review of pensions a couple of years ago determined current pensions WERE sustainable.

This government simply wants to make a scapegoat of public sector workers who are already enduring frozen pay at a time of high inflation, because they'd rather that than go after the real criminals here who are the Chief Execs paying themselves ever-increasing salaries and bonuses, and companies who avoid paying their taxes by registering in the Channel Islands/inserttaxhavenhere.

Oh, what do you know? You're just a poll option.

Good points, though.

[Olivaero]

Every person who has participated in these strikes should be ashamed! Their employers should have a right to fire these lazy bastards, they should be happy that they have a job in the first place. And apparently they don't appreciate it.. This is exactly what happens when unions have too much power.

Ah you see... no. People have the right to withhold their labour and considering the amount of people striking good luck firing all of them and finding replacements with the same amount of experience. Oh and if anything unions don't have enough power, They are democratically elected bodies of the workers you know. For nations that put so much stock in democracy they should be given a bigger say and be encouraged.

[Hippostania]

Every person who has participated in these strikes should be ashamed!

<looks at self in mirror>

<pokes self a couple of times>

Sorry, clearly not really feeling much shame here...

You clearly have no soul D:

Every person who has participated in these strikes should be ashamed! Their employers should have a right to fire these lazy bastards, they should be happy that they have a job in the first place. And apparently they don't appreciate it.. This is exactly what happens when unions have too much power.

Point is they are already fired, that is why they protest.

Wait.. If they've been fired already, how can they strike?

Every person who has participated in these strikes should be ashamed! Their employers should have a right to fire these lazy bastards, they should be happy that they have a job in the first place. And apparently they don't appreciate it.. This is exactly what happens when unions have too much power.

Ah you see... no. People have the right to withhold their labour and considering the amount of people striking good luck firing all of them and finding replacements with the same amount of experience. Oh and if anything unions don't have enough power, They are democratically elected bodies of the workers you know. For nations that put so much stock in democracy they should be given a bigger say and be encouraged.

People have a right to withhold their labour, but then they should get fired as they are not doing the job they're supposed to do.
And if unions should have more power, so should corporations.

[The Matthew Islands]

Well, as far I'm concerned, public sector strikes should be immediately banned. Every fucker and their screaming child who was out of school swarmed into fucking Pounland today, constantly buying food so I had to keep restocking the shelves. /half joke rant.

[Myrth]

People have a right to withhold their labour, but then they should get fired as they are not doing the job they're supposed to do.
And if unions should have more power, so should corporations.

Good luck firing half your workforce.

And more power to corporations? Hahahaha, you're a good troll, I'll give you that.

[Dimoniquid]

Fuck it, really. One day off of college sounds good to me - I can finally get my coursework done.

[Rhursbourg]

Did the Police go on Strike i thought they where not allowed to go on strike

[Hippostania]

People have a right to withhold their labour, but then they should get fired as they are not doing the job they're supposed to do.
And if unions should have more power, so should corporations.

Good luck firing half your workforce.

And more power to corporations? Hahahaha, you're a good troll, I'll give you that.

Tell me then, why should unions have more power but corporations should have less?

[Myrth]

Good luck firing half your workforce.

And more power to corporations? Hahahaha, you're a good troll, I'll give you that.

Tell me then, why should unions have more power but corporations should have less?

Because a union is a democratic organisation made up of the workforce. A corporation is an undemocratic organisation made up of shareholders and executives.

[Lordieth]

With all the cuts to public services the government has made (and there are plenty more to come), the Unions are the only ones with the collective power to fight back. Which isn't to say I'm happy with the idea of more Strikes, because it is somewhat like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

I support the hard working public sector workers who are fighting back against public sector cuts, to an extent. They shouldn't be able to hold the services they run to ransom.

However, I don't support the penpushing jobsworths who just fancied a day off at all.

[The Archregimancy]

<looks at self in mirror>

<pokes self a couple of times>

Sorry, clearly not really feeling much shame here...

You clearly have no soul D:

<reads book on Orthodox theology>

<asks priest>

<pokes self a couple of times again>

Sorry, I'm fairly satisfied that I have a soul.

Thanks for taking an interest, though.