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What do you think of Ron Paul?

Postby Chrislamic Libertarians » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:13 am

I am Traditional Republican and although I disagree with COngressman Paul on a lot of economic issues I think we (U.S.) need him for his consistency, ideas on maximizing civil liberties, and ideas of a non-interventionist foreign policy. What do you think of Congressman Ron Paul?

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Postby Tekcirb » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:16 am

Don't like him, can't be bothered to explain.

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Postby The Hasenei Empire » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:16 am

As a libertarian I would have to concur. He has had a proven record of consistency. Despite being a libertarian, I also disagree with him on some issues, but he's very perspicacious, and would be more than adequate as a president.

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Postby Zwitterjiund » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:18 am

Im British so I don't really have much say in the matter but If I were an American I would vote for Ron Paul...plus Id happily pay a little more tax (especially If I was rich)

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Postby The Forsaken Wilderness » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:18 am

i like him.
he is an honest, old-fashioned American and would do a lot of good for our country. why does the media keep ignoring him?
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Postby Northern Europia » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:19 am

I love Him. He is so awesome.

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Postby Hellenic Protectorates » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:19 am

Chrislamic Libertarians wrote:I am Traditional Republican and although I disagree with COngressman Paul on a lot of economic issues I think we (U.S.) need him for his consistency, ideas on maximizing civil liberties, and ideas of a non-interventionist foreign policy. What do you think of Congressman Ron Paul?

He sticks to his guns. His weird, old guns.

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Postby Wilgrove » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:19 am

I like his foreign policy, but I hate his domestic policies.

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Postby The FTR » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:20 am

He wants to brand anyone who gets an abortion as a criminal, and he believes legal and illegal immigrants should not have freedom. He believes one big reason we are in debt is because of the federal reserve.

I don't like him.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:20 am

He's a consistent fella' with some "unique" perspectives on a lot of issues. He certainly knows how to stir up his online fanbase, too. However, his inability to get the fanbase to transfer itself from the Internet to reality in significant amounts, combined with his old age and key economic positions which seem to come off as too extreme in too many peoples' eyes, makes him an unlikely candidate for more than the Congress, in my opinion.
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Postby Angleter » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:20 am

Zwitterjiund wrote:Im British so I don't really have much say in the matter but If I were an American I would vote for Ron Paul...plus Id happily pay a little more tax (especially If I was rich)


I don't think there'd be any danger of you having to pay more tax, especially if you were rich, if Ron Paul were in power.

The Forsaken Wilderness wrote:i like him.
he is an honest, old-fashioned American and would do a lot of good for our country. why does the media keep ignoring him?


Because the Internet won't shut up about him?
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Postby Ar-Rabalistan » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:21 am

I like the idea of term limits for Congress and I do think we need to be kess of a warmonger. Other than that, I hate him.
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Postby Hellenic Protectorates » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:21 am

The FTR wrote:He wants to brand anyone who gets an abortion as a criminal, and he believes legal and illegal immigrants should not have freedom. He believes one big reason we are in debt is because of the federal reserve.

I don't like him.

Source for these.

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Postby Divair » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:22 am

Best of the candidates, but still rather bad like all politicians.

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Postby Hippostania » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:22 am

This picture says it all.
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Postby Fluffy Coyotes » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:23 am

Rhodmhire wrote:He's a consistent fella' with some "unique" perspectives on a lot of issues. He certainly knows how to stir up his online fanbase, too. However, his inability to get the fanbase to transfer itself from the Internet to reality in significant amounts, combined with his old age and key economic positions which seem to come off as too extreme in too many peoples' eyes, makes him an unlikely candidate for more than the Congress, in my opinion.

This, basically.

I think it is interesting that while his libertarian perspective is perceived as being outside of the line between left and right, which is what I find refreshing, Ron Paul himself claims that his perspective is actually closer to what the right used to be about.
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Postby Hellenic Protectorates » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:24 am

Hippostania wrote:This picture says it all.
(Image)
Yeah, he's an annoying isolationist idiot who worships a 200-year old piece of paper. Good thing he's never going to be the president.

Because a picture made on photoshop in five minutes, expressing nothing more than an impertinent personal attack, is justification for disliking someone.

If that were the case, Obama would be Lenin II.
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Postby The FTR » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:25 am

Hellenic Protectorates wrote:
The FTR wrote:He wants to brand anyone who gets an abortion as a criminal, and he believes legal and illegal immigrants should not have freedom. He believes one big reason we are in debt is because of the federal reserve.

I don't like him.

Source for these.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/abortion/
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/
They are on his website.
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Postby The Great Librarian » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:26 am

Hellenic Protectorates wrote:
Hippostania wrote:This picture says it all.
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Yeah, he's an annoying isolationist idiot who worships a 200-year old piece of paper. Good thing he's never going to be the president.

Because a picture made on photoshop in five minutes, expressing nothing more than an impertinent personal attack, is justification for disliking someone.

If that were the case, Obama would be Lenin II.

You mean most Americans don't think he is? To give you a general idea of how I feel about Ron Paul, I'll first say: I'm Canadian, and second say: "I like Obama, but he's a bit conservative for my tastes."

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Postby Seibertron » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:27 am

Hellenic Protectorates wrote:
Hippostania wrote:This picture says it all.
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Yeah, he's an annoying isolationist idiot who worships a 200-year old piece of paper. Good thing he's never going to be the president.

Because a picture made on photoshop in five minutes, expressing nothing more than an impertinent personal attack, is justification for disliking someone.

If that were the case, Obama would be Lenin II.

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Postby Hippostania » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:28 am

Hellenic Protectorates wrote:
Hippostania wrote:This picture says it all.
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Yeah, he's an annoying isolationist idiot who worships a 200-year old piece of paper. Good thing he's never going to be the president.

Because a picture made on photoshop in five minutes, expressing nothing more than an impertinent personal attack, is justification for disliking someone.

If that were the case, Obama would be Lenin II.

Obama is indeed too leftist for my taste.

But anyways, he's an isolationist (he's not a neoconservative), is anti-choice, supports legalizing dangerous drugs, supports the OWS and stuff like that. I'd pick Cain or Romney over Paul every day. I mean, I absolutely detest Ron Paul. He's just so goddamn arrogant and annoying, and his supporters tend to be almost as annoying as the man itself.
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Postby Fluffy Coyotes » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:29 am

Hippostania wrote:Yeah, he's an annoying isolationist idiot who worships a 200-year old piece of paper.

God damn it, he has already gone over why "isolationist" is not exactly an accurate description of his perspective. Enough of that tired talking point.
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Postby Stachland » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:29 am

Though I'm a communist, I easily have more respect for Ron Paul than any other Republican politician, as he is the only one who hasn't changed his ideals to conform to the party platform. I agree with him on some things, but not that many, and I honestly would never vote for him, but I still have to give him points for consistency.
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Postby The Hasenei Empire » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:29 am

The FTR wrote:He wants to brand anyone who gets an abortion as a criminal, and he believes legal and illegal immigrants should not have freedom. He believes one big reason we are in debt is because of the federal reserve.

I don't like him.


He believes that abortion should be up to the states first of all. Second I have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to illegal immigrants, as far as I know he is the most liberal when it comes to the conundrum of immigration. Third, he believes that the FED is engendering copious economic problems, the debt is not necessarily one of them. He is speaking of inflation and the demise of the US dollar.

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