Gandhi Was Racist Towards Blacks

[Keronians]

You say it as if everyone else wasn't.

You say that as if every human being under the sun before the 1950's was racist.

Most of them were, tbh.

[Oterro]

The only way you could ascend in caste was if you became a minister of the Emperor, or the Emperor himself.

If the world was a medieval fantasy novel that would be soooo cool.

Sucks it's not :I

[Distruzio]

The only way you could ascend in caste was if you became a minister of the Emperor, or the Emperor himself.

If the world was a medieval fantasy novel that would be soooo cool.

Sucks it's not :I

Yeah... I don't like hygiene either or central climate control either.

[Caotic chaos]

I find it interesting you would assume that someone who identifies with liberalism and pacifism would lack an understanding of historical figures.

[Ashmoria]

You say that as if every human being under the sun before the 1950's was racist.

Most of them were, tbh.

gandhi was in africa 1893-1914. it was a pretty racist time.

[Keronians]

Most of them were, tbh.

gandhi was in africa 1893-1914. it was a pretty racist time.

Indeed.

[Tekania]

Who gives a shit?

People who are tired of hearing Gandhi paraded around like a saint?

I like Ghandi II better

[Cromarty]

Gandhi also liked Hitler.

“We have no doubt about your bravery or devotion to your fatherland, nor do we believe that you are the monster described by your opponents.” Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi to Adolph Hitler.

Or he was trying to achieve Hitler's support once his suggestion that an independent, but subserviant to Britain, India could fight the war better than as a colony was soundly rejected by Britain.

[New Conglomerate]

Who gives a shit?

People who are tired of hearing Gandhi paraded around like a saint?

^This.

[Cromarty]

Honestly it's so hard to find a hero you can revere in history now :<

Jack Fucking Churchill.

[Cromarty]

Who gives a shit?

People who are tired of hearing Gandhi paraded around like a saint?

People need to get the fuck over themselves then.

[Communist Finland]

Gandhi was still a leftist. Even if he would have been a racist, he wouldn't have restricted black people's rights. It's against his own words to deny another person's right to live.

[Bears Armed]

Actually, I read somewhere or other a while back, the Sanskrit term for the four basic castes apparently translates into English as "Colours": Apparently members of the higher castes tend to be paler-skinned than members of the lower ones, at least amongst the peoples of northern India, and the system probably started off there with caste determined in some way by the extent to which people were 'Indo-Aryan' in ancestry rather than descended from any of the the earlier (e.g. Dravidian, Munda, pre-Dravidian, etc...) native groups.

They seem far more related to occupation to me.

Nowadays, yes, but how do you think the occupations originally got shared out? The conquerors established a monopoly of the more prestigious ones (priest, warrior) for their own families, and limited their subjects to the lower-status roles.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

It is good that Gandhi was there when he was to help India to become an independent state. If it had happened later, the United States would have attacked them as Communists.

No.

They probably would have stayed under the heel of the Empire, with American help. 8)

You say it as if everyone else wasn't.

You say that as if every human being under the sun before the 1950's was racist.

Good ol'e days obv.

[Ape managment]

Interesting

[New Manvir]

That's not surprising. Racism against people with dark skin is pretty common in India and Indian people, AFAIK. Partly as a remnant of the caste system, and partly from years of British Imperialism.

[Caninope]

Gandhi was a racists, a sexist, an abuser of women, potentially a pedophile, and many other heinous things. This isn't news to myself as liberal and a pacifist.

I find it interesting you would assume that someone who identifies with liberalism and pacifism would lack an understanding of historical figures.

I do that for a lot of people. Including myself to some extent. I don't expect CM to know all about Tokugawa Ieyasu and his strategies and thoughts (although this might not be the case); similarly, I don't expect Kat to know all about the Trajan; I don't expect Sibirsky to be well acquainted with Hannibal. It might be the case that I'm wrong on all counts, it's just that I don't assume people to know too much outside of their chosen field of study.

[Caninope]

Honestly it's so hard to find a hero you can revere in history now :<

Jack Fucking Churchill.

Guns are for cowards.

[Communist Finland]

Ganhi himself did not condemn or judge people of different skin color, sex or orientation. If he would be, say, leader of India, he would not regulate the rights of black people. That would be against his own Left-liberal views. Was Gandhi a hypocrite? No. He followed his own words. He mainly did all these things because he feared that India would be attacked for his opinions. That's why he said good thing s about Hitler. He obviously disliked Hitler's fascist ideology.

Also, can a Liberal person be truly racist? Basically, not. They can say whatever they say, but if they judge people because of shit like this, they're not Liberal. And Racism in India was mainly caused by the British empire.
And true, USA would attacked and killed Gandhi brutally, as an anarcho-communist. He was a leftist, and USA obviously thought of all Left-Wingers as Stalinists. Even JFK believed propaganda about Stalinism being true communism.

Anyways, I have a picture of him in my room. I've had the picture my whole life, and I respect Gandhi's views. Especially the one saying that to be truly good, you must sacrifice yourself to everyone-including your enemies. I will never remove his face from my wall. His thoughts will never disappear.
Even though India respects him, India remains corrupt. The difference between the poor and the rich must disappear, or liberty will perish.

[Communist Finland]

Gandhi was a racists, a sexist, an abuser of women, potentially a pedophile, and many other heinous things. This isn't news to myself as liberal and a pacifist.

I find it interesting you would assume that someone who identifies with liberalism and pacifism would lack an understanding of historical figures.

Gandhi most certainly was not Sexist. He was a liberal, yes. The whole idea of Liberalism is to defend the freedom of all, not matter what skin color, gender or orientation. Give me a name of one racist liberal, and I will believe you. He might have been a pedophile. Who knows? Many political idiots spilled propaganda and lies about him the years when he was active. The fact about him raping children is most probably untrue, as is the accusation of him worshipping Satan, and him being gay.

He also believed anyone could run a nation, and that everyone must act. If he was a racist and a sexist, then he wouldn't be classed as a Liberal. Racism and Sexism are against the ideology of leftism.

[Puissancevise]

Gandhi was a great man. He beat the British empire by simply starving himself. He gave the Muslims Pakistan. He never fought anyone, he was all about peace. Most people back in that time were racist, especially in the British colonies. And i don't care if your tired of hearing about how good he was. If these accusations that he was racist are even true, they amount to nothing that the man was able to pull off. Conservatives don't like him because most conservatives tend to lack the ability to see past one's religious beliefs when judging character. Many Christians dislike him simply because he isn't Christian. Whatever the case, they are wrong. If there was one person in history to be remembered as the "Good Guy" it would be Gandhi.

[Mushet]

I also heard that he beat his wife, he still did good even though I don't completely agree with his methods, nobody's perfect

[Communist Finland]

I also heard that he beat his wife, he still did good even though I don't completely agree with his methods, nobody's perfect

That was british propaganda, I've heard it too.
The same people who said that, said that he was a remnant of Stalin...

[Communist Finland]

Gandhi was a great man. He beat the British empire by simply starving himself. He gave the Muslims Pakistan. He never fought anyone, he was all about peace. Most people back in that time were racist, especially in the British colonies. And i don't care if your tired of hearing about how good he was. If these accusations that he was racist are even true, they amount to nothing that the man was able to pull off. Conservatives don't like him because most conservatives tend to lack the ability to see past one's religious beliefs when judging character. Many Christians dislike him simply because he isn't Christian. Whatever the case, they are wrong. If there was one person in history to be remembered as the "Good Guy" it would be Gandhi.

Complete agreement.

[Caninope]

Gandhi was a racists, a sexist, an abuser of women, potentially a pedophile, and many other heinous things. This isn't news to myself as liberal and a pacifist.

I find it interesting you would assume that someone who identifies with liberalism and pacifism would lack an understanding of historical figures.

Gandhi most certainly was not Sexist. He was a liberal, yes. The whole idea of Liberalism is to defend the freedom of all, not matter what skin color, gender or orientation. Give me a name of one racist liberal.

Abraham Lincoln is debatable. Thomas Jefferson. Woodrow Wilson. FDR. You can support freedom for all while believing that some people are inferior to you or your race.