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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:42 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
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dude EVERYONE knows that the typical threads in NS are the silly "hate fox news" "condemn israel" threads. I bet i could find a thread condoning america in the next page or two.


what does that have to do with the topic of the thread?


i just mentioned it below my response, my response was how CNN is no differen't, i already pointed that out. It was more of a side note that I wanted to include.
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Postby New Conglomerate » Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:42 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
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what does that have to do with the topic of the thread?


i just mentioned it below my response, my response was how CNN is no differen't, i already pointed that out. It was more of a side note that I wanted to include.

You're still ignoring the question.

Can you provide a source that CNN has made up stories (without retracting them later)?
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:45 pm

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Can you cite a specific and proven example of CNN blatantly stating a lie on a particular news story for political gain?

And frankly you were the only one to bring up Israel in this thread so nice strawman.


dude EVERYONE knows that the typical threads in NS are the silly "hate fox news" "condemn israel" threads. I bet i could find a thread condoning america in the next page or two.

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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:58 pm

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dude EVERYONE knows that the typical threads in NS are the silly "hate fox news" "condemn israel" threads. I bet i could find a thread condoning america in the next page or two.

Enjoy your fantasy land, but please stop trying to drag the rest of us into it.


Yeah cause its such a fantasy that NS is liberal bias :roll: I must be nuts.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:00 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
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what does that have to do with the topic of the thread?


i just mentioned it below my response, my response was how CNN is no differen't, i already pointed that out. It was more of a side note that I wanted to include.

This is not a thread about partisan bias. This is a thread about the fabrication of stories to attempt to create news.

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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:00 pm

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i just mentioned it below my response, my response was how CNN is no differen't, i already pointed that out. It was more of a side note that I wanted to include.

You're still ignoring the question.

Can you provide a source that CNN has made up stories (without retracting them later)?


http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oGdXJ5 ... rging.html

You wanted a source there is it, you can choose to ignore it or not.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:02 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
New Conglomerate wrote:You're still ignoring the question.

Can you provide a source that CNN has made up stories (without retracting them later)?


http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oGdXJ5 ... rging.html

You wanted a source there is it, you can choose to ignore it or not.

That says that Toyota claimed that CNN put out false information, not that CNN actually did.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:03 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
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http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oGdXJ5 ... rging.html

You wanted a source there is it, you can choose to ignore it or not.

That says that Toyota claimed that CNN put out false information, not that CNN actually did.


So basically it just comes down to your personal opinion of whether or not they are lying?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:04 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That says that Toyota claimed that CNN put out false information, not that CNN actually did.


So basically it just comes down to your personal opinion of whether or not they are lying?

In the case of FOX, we have evidence that they mare making shit up. Is there evidence that Toyota's claims are true?

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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:06 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
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So basically it just comes down to your personal opinion of whether or not they are lying?

In the case of FOX, we have evidence that they mare making shit up. Is there evidence that Toyota's claims are true?


You have no solid evidence, even the OP dosn't have solid evidence of "story fabrication"

Note: That being said, i believe fox does want to put more pressure on the left wing, they are a strong but isolated media station compared to the liberal media. That's why i watch CNN so i get a taste of the other side. I don't really see any bullshit coming from either side when it comes to just the news, but I do see tendencies when it comes to personal shows like Orelly and when CNN brings on their democrats.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:06 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That says that Toyota claimed that CNN put out false information, not that CNN actually did.


So basically it just comes down to your personal opinion of whether or not they are lying?

No, the article you linked does not say that CNN definitely put out false information without retracting it later. It says that Toyota claimed that CNN put out false information. In context, Toyota was being beaten from pillar to post about those recalls back in 2010, and it vehemently disagreed with information CNN broadcast, calling it false. I don't see anywhere in there that the info was proved false.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:07 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:In the case of FOX, we have evidence that they mare making shit up. Is there evidence that Toyota's claims are true?


You have no solid evidence, even the OP dosn't have solid evidence of "story fabrication"

The evidence is the lack of it. There is no verifiable connection between the White House shooter and the Occupy movement. Even conservative watchdogs claim that Fox is the only news source to claim such, and hasn't presented any evidence to verify this claim. Unless, of course, you can show me what evidence they have brought up.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:27 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Enjoy your fantasy land, but please stop trying to drag the rest of us into it.


Yeah cause its such a fantasy that NS is liberal bias :roll: I must be nuts.

Stand by, your Waaaaahmbulance is on its way.

In the meantime, let me point out some things that might help you and your pity party.

You, like every other member of this forum, have the ability to post threads. On the main page, the big button that says "New Topic", just press that and you can make topics about whatever your little heart desires.

Furthermore, there is a difference between over-representation and bias. Learn it.

Now, I know you're just twisting yourself up about all the horrible, horrible things that might happen if you 'dare' to make a thread about any one of the little red herrings you've brought up in order to avoid the rather indefensible act that Fox has pulled here because it makes you uncomfortable. The important thing to remember is that no one can actually do anything to you. These are all just words on a screen, and if the words scare you that much that you're afraid to venture out with a thread of your own you can always turn the computer off and stare at a blue sheet of paper to calm down.

If you've got a complaint about CNN, hit "New Topic" and make one. Because just like the conservatives you're pretending don't exist on NSG so as to nail yourself to the cross that came to this thread before you who brought up 'B-but MSNBC!', vague whining about CNN does not address this situation in anyway. CNN could rival the Onion in random bullshit around the clock and it would not excuse Fox. Much in the same way what Timmy did next door didn't excuse the shit you did with your momma.

All of your complaints about bias this and bias that, moot. Fuck all to do with anything, except in the context of this lie. And it is a lie. What anyone else does is not an excuse. No one is going to go, "Oh well...conservatives hate CNN, so it's all okay now." Doesn't work that way.

We take your flopping around and changing of the subject as a tacit acknowledgment that this is an inexcusable act and the people at Fox are in fact hacks.
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Postby Dracoria » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:34 pm

Eh. This is exactly the same as when every violent act for a while was initially linked to the Tea Party. Remember, the Holocaust museum slaughter, the Giffords shooting, the wacko who flew a plane into a building because he hated the IRS?
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Postby Hellenic Protectorates » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:34 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:*snip*


Inb4 "Fox is evil".

Oh, wait. This is the OP. Nevermind.

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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:34 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Yeah cause its such a fantasy that NS is liberal bias :roll: I must be nuts.

Stand by, your Waaaaahmbulance is on its way.

In the meantime, let me point out some things that might help you and your pity party.

You, like every other member of this forum, have the ability to post threads. On the main page, the big button that says "New Topic", just press that and you can make topics about whatever your little heart desires.

Furthermore, there is a difference between over-representation and bias. Learn it.

Now, I know you're just twisting yourself up about all the horrible, horrible things that might happen if you 'dare' to make a thread about any one of the little red herrings you've brought up in order to avoid the rather indefensible act that Fox has pulled here because it makes you uncomfortable. The important thing to remember is that no one can actually do anything to you. These are all just words on a screen, and if the words scare you that much that you're afraid to venture out with a thread of your own you can always turn the computer off and stare at a blue sheet of paper to calm down.

If you've got a complaint about CNN, hit "New Topic" and make one. Because just like the conservatives you're pretending don't exist on NSG so as to nail yourself to the cross that came to this thread before you who brought up 'B-but MSNBC!', vague whining about CNN does not address this situation in anyway. CNN could rival the Onion in random bullshit around the clock and it would not excuse Fox. Much in the same way what Timmy did next door didn't excuse the shit you did with your momma.

All of your complaints about bias this and bias that, moot. Fuck all to do with anything, except in the context of this lie. And it is a lie. What anyone else does is not an excuse. No one is going to go, "Oh well...conservatives hate CNN, so it's all okay now." Doesn't work that way.

We take your flopping around and changing of the subject as a tacit acknowledgment that this is an inexcusable act and the people at Fox are in fact hacks.


1. First off don't claim things about me, you don't know me or my emotions.
2. I'm not excusing either news station, don't put words in my mouth.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:36 pm

Saiwania wrote:Fox News is the only major right wing news channel on cable television in the US, so I hold nothing against them. They cover stories that the other stations (mostly liberal) won't and FNC...


Apparently, because those stories are already known to be untrue.

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Postby Hellenic Protectorates » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:37 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
You have no solid evidence, even the OP dosn't have solid evidence of "story fabrication"

The evidence is the lack of it. There is no verifiable connection between the White House shooter and the Occupy movement. Even conservative watchdogs claim that Fox is the only news source to claim such, and hasn't presented any evidence to verify this claim. Unless, of course, you can show me what evidence they have brought up.

There's about as much connection between this shooter and a "movement" as there was between this shooter and his brain-stem. None.

Then again, seeing liberals whining about Fox claiming he was a member of the Occupy movement, when they endlessly claimed the Giffords shooter was a Tea Partier, as well as a couple other notable falsities, makes me laugh.

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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:38 pm

Hellenic Protectorates wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:The evidence is the lack of it. There is no verifiable connection between the White House shooter and the Occupy movement. Even conservative watchdogs claim that Fox is the only news source to claim such, and hasn't presented any evidence to verify this claim. Unless, of course, you can show me what evidence they have brought up.

There's about as much connection between this shooter and a "movement" as there was between this shooter and his brain-stem. None.

Then again, seeing liberals whining about Fox claiming he was a member of the Occupy movement, when they endlessly claimed the Giffords shooter was a Tea Partier, as well as a couple other notable falsities, makes me laugh.


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Postby Hellenic Protectorates » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:38 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Saiwania wrote:Fox News is the only major right wing news channel on cable television in the US, so I hold nothing against them. They cover stories that the other stations (mostly liberal) won't and FNC...


Apparently, because those stories are already known to be untrue.

You don't think that's a problem?

Loaded question. Nice try.

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Postby New Conglomerate » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:38 pm

Hellenic Protectorates wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:The evidence is the lack of it. There is no verifiable connection between the White House shooter and the Occupy movement. Even conservative watchdogs claim that Fox is the only news source to claim such, and hasn't presented any evidence to verify this claim. Unless, of course, you can show me what evidence they have brought up.

There's about as much connection between this shooter and a "movement" as there was between this shooter and his brain-stem. None.

Then again, seeing liberals whining about Fox claiming he was a member of the Occupy movement, when they endlessly claimed the Giffords shooter was a Tea Partier, as well as a couple other notable falsities, makes me laugh.

That was speculation, and all of it was retracted.

Also, this:
Cannot think of a name wrote:You, like every other member of this forum, have the ability to post threads. On the main page, the big button that says "New Topic", just press that and you can make topics about whatever your little heart desires.

Furthermore, there is a difference between over-representation and bias. Learn it.

Now, I know you're just twisting yourself up about all the horrible, horrible things that might happen if you 'dare' to make a thread about any one of the little red herrings you've brought up in order to avoid the rather indefensible act that Fox has pulled here because it makes you uncomfortable. The important thing to remember is that no one can actually do anything to you. These are all just words on a screen, and if the words scare you that much that you're afraid to venture out with a thread of your own you can always turn the computer off and stare at a blue sheet of paper to calm down.

If you've got a complaint about CNN, hit "New Topic" and make one. Because just like the conservatives you're pretending don't exist on NSG so as to nail yourself to the cross that came to this thread before you who brought up 'B-but MSNBC!', vague whining about CNN does not address this situation in anyway. CNN could rival the Onion in random bullshit around the clock and it would not excuse Fox. Much in the same way what Timmy did next door didn't excuse the shit you did with your momma.

All of your complaints about bias this and bias that, moot. Fuck all to do with anything, except in the context of this lie. And it is a lie. What anyone else does is not an excuse. No one is going to go, "Oh well...conservatives hate CNN, so it's all okay now." Doesn't work that way.

We take your flopping around and changing of the subject as a tacit acknowledgment that this is an inexcusable act and the people at Fox are in fact hacks.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:40 pm

New Conglomerate wrote:
Hellenic Protectorates wrote:There's about as much connection between this shooter and a "movement" as there was between this shooter and his brain-stem. None.

Then again, seeing liberals whining about Fox claiming he was a member of the Occupy movement, when they endlessly claimed the Giffords shooter was a Tea Partier, as well as a couple other notable falsities, makes me laugh.

That was speculation, and all of it was retracted.

Also, this:
Cannot think of a name wrote:You, like every other member of this forum, have the ability to post threads. On the main page, the big button that says "New Topic", just press that and you can make topics about whatever your little heart desires.

Furthermore, there is a difference between over-representation and bias. Learn it.

Now, I know you're just twisting yourself up about all the horrible, horrible things that might happen if you 'dare' to make a thread about any one of the little red herrings you've brought up in order to avoid the rather indefensible act that Fox has pulled here because it makes you uncomfortable. The important thing to remember is that no one can actually do anything to you. These are all just words on a screen, and if the words scare you that much that you're afraid to venture out with a thread of your own you can always turn the computer off and stare at a blue sheet of paper to calm down.

If you've got a complaint about CNN, hit "New Topic" and make one. Because just like the conservatives you're pretending don't exist on NSG so as to nail yourself to the cross that came to this thread before you who brought up 'B-but MSNBC!', vague whining about CNN does not address this situation in anyway. CNN could rival the Onion in random bullshit around the clock and it would not excuse Fox. Much in the same way what Timmy did next door didn't excuse the shit you did with your momma.

All of your complaints about bias this and bias that, moot. Fuck all to do with anything, except in the context of this lie. And it is a lie. What anyone else does is not an excuse. No one is going to go, "Oh well...conservatives hate CNN, so it's all okay now." Doesn't work that way.

We take your flopping around and changing of the subject as a tacit acknowledgment that this is an inexcusable act and the people at Fox are in fact hacks.


already responded to that, look above.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:41 pm

Hellenic Protectorates wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:*snip*


Inb4 "Fox is evil".

Oh, wait. This is the OP. Nevermind.

I swear. This site makes me give up on humanity sometimes.


Ten pages. Really too much to ask you to read it?

Or even just the OP, since you seem to have entirely missed the point.
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Postby Hellenic Protectorates » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:42 pm

New Conglomerate wrote:
Hellenic Protectorates wrote:There's about as much connection between this shooter and a "movement" as there was between this shooter and his brain-stem. None.

Then again, seeing liberals whining about Fox claiming he was a member of the Occupy movement, when they endlessly claimed the Giffords shooter was a Tea Partier, as well as a couple other notable falsities, makes me laugh.

That was speculation, and all of it was retracted.

Also, this:
Cannot think of a name wrote:You, like every other member of this forum, have the ability to post threads. On the main page, the big button that says "New Topic", just press that and you can make topics about whatever your little heart desires.

Furthermore, there is a difference between over-representation and bias. Learn it.

Now, I know you're just twisting yourself up about all the horrible, horrible things that might happen if you 'dare' to make a thread about any one of the little red herrings you've brought up in order to avoid the rather indefensible act that Fox has pulled here because it makes you uncomfortable. The important thing to remember is that no one can actually do anything to you. These are all just words on a screen, and if the words scare you that much that you're afraid to venture out with a thread of your own you can always turn the computer off and stare at a blue sheet of paper to calm down.

If you've got a complaint about CNN, hit "New Topic" and make one. Because just like the conservatives you're pretending don't exist on NSG so as to nail yourself to the cross that came to this thread before you who brought up 'B-but MSNBC!', vague whining about CNN does not address this situation in anyway. CNN could rival the Onion in random bullshit around the clock and it would not excuse Fox. Much in the same way what Timmy did next door didn't excuse the shit you did with your momma.

All of your complaints about bias this and bias that, moot. Fuck all to do with anything, except in the context of this lie. And it is a lie. What anyone else does is not an excuse. No one is going to go, "Oh well...conservatives hate CNN, so it's all okay now." Doesn't work that way.

We take your flopping around and changing of the subject as a tacit acknowledgment that this is an inexcusable act and the people at Fox are in fact hacks.


Retracted? Where? Source please.

Also, in accordance with CTOAN's post: Since left-wingers outnumber right-wingers on this site, we're not allowed to have opinions? Because every single thing FOX says is absolutely torn apart on this forum, and conservatives have more productive things to do than worthlessly whine about everything, we aren't allowed to object?

Nice logic. And by that, I mean the opposite.
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Postby Luziyca » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:42 pm

I do think that FOX News is the official American news source, and yes, I believe it is evil, owned by the CIA. How else will it be imperialist and be wrong?
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