Why are most atheists left-wing?

[Trotskylvania]

All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.

All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.

Well, when you can invent a machine that can call down manna from heaven so that I don't have to leave my room, we'll have that fixed. But for now, we're all in this together.

[Paragade]

I think a lot of Libertarians are Atheist also. I'm part of a bungie.net group that's for Atheists and it's half and half when it comes to who's left wing and who's Libertarian in the group. Marx advocated Atheism which is probably why a lot of Atheists are left wing.

[GeneralHaNor]

Really?, you say things like the underlined and wonder why you are called "America hatin"
You are correct, you haven't turned Conservative into a dirty word, rather you have turned "American" to be synonymous for Ignorant.

If the dunce cap fits...

Liberal elite's provide me with constant amusement

Ivory Tower much?

[Seperates]

If the dunce cap fits...

Liberal elite's provide me with constant amusement

Ivory Tower much?

Meh, when 50% of your population participates in elections...

[GeneralHaNor]

Yeah, positive law, total utilitarian trash.

That allows you to post such views. Gotta love democratic freedom friend

Don't gotta do anything, a man is free until acted against by an outside force that seeks to impose it's will against his own.

The State is that force (and I'll add for my leftist friends, Capitalism) It doesn't "allow" us to do anything, it has simply not gotten around to preventing us from doing so.

[GeneralHaNor]

Liberal elite's provide me with constant amusement

Ivory Tower much?

Meh, when 50% of your population participates in elections...

Voter participation numbers mean nothing. a lot of people feel that statistically speaking their votes mean nothing, and technically, that is true.

[GeneralHaNor]

What? I was referring to filming police officers in the field.

You can do that now as well. Supreme Court ruled it so.

That won't stop cops in the field from being ignorant of their own law (or not caring at all) smashing your camera, and your face.

[GeneralHaNor]

I am an atheist.

And it is no more a strawman than virtually every post on here accusing libertarians of being authoritarians or corporatists.

One ill turn does not deserve another.

Considering you dedicated an entire thread to the subject, it's hardly an equivalent turn

[Distruzio]

I'm neither atheist and I'm neither a believer of the free market in the sense most anarchists, libertarians, etc. use the term.

I do not consider myself dumb.

:brofist:

Reads mah sig

[GeneralHaNor]

Well what is the remedy? Violent revolution? Violent revolution doesn't work and is also disturbing and frankly just uncivil. You can't beat them in their our monopoly courts, so that avenue is gone. You can also practice civil disobedience, but filming officers in some places is a felony and can result in life sentences for older people. You need a public outcry and public awareness to defeat them, the only way to do that is through education.

They have been muthafucking beaten in the courts. It is now legal to take pictures of the police. I REPEAT: It is now legal to take pictures of the police.

Tell them that, when they are taking the nightsticks to your ribcage

[Norstal]

Why people smart enough to be atheists are not smart enough to understand the free market?

Because it requires me to believe in something, the same way religion require me to believe in a deity.

I don't believe in things. Either they are observable facts or they're not. Hence why I just can't be an economist.

[Norstal]

One ill turn does not deserve another.

Considering you dedicated an entire thread to the subject, it's hardly an equivalent turn

Trotsky is a libertarian. So of course he can do a thread on his own ideology.

[GeneralHaNor]

Considering you dedicated an entire thread to the subject, it's hardly an equivalent turn

Trotsky is a libertarian. So of course he can do a thread on his own ideology.

Considering his support of central planning, I wouldn't identify him as such, in much the same way that I wouldn't identify myself as a duck

[Trotskylvania]

One ill turn does not deserve another.

Considering you dedicated an entire thread to the subject, it's hardly an equivalent turn

So, as a libertarian, I am not allowed to criticize the very unlibertarian tendencies that I see in some libertarians?

[Trotskylvania]

Trotsky is a libertarian. So of course he can do a thread on his own ideology.

Considering his support of central planning, I wouldn't identify him as such, in much the same way that I wouldn't identify myself as a duck

I don't support central planning. I support participatory planning.

[GeneralHaNor]

Considering you dedicated an entire thread to the subject, it's hardly an equivalent turn

So, as a libertarian, I am not allowed to criticize the very unlibertarian tendencies that I see in some libertarians?

No, I'm saying "Don't throw stones" One ill turn does not deserve another, is such a stone.

[Norstal]

Considering you dedicated an entire thread to the subject, it's hardly an equivalent turn

So, as a libertarian, I am not allowed to criticize the very unlibertarian tendencies that I see in some libertarians?

Nah, your membership got revoked remember?

[GeneralHaNor]

Considering his support of central planning, I wouldn't identify him as such, in much the same way that I wouldn't identify myself as a duck

I don't support central planning. I support participatory planning.

My apologies, I am mistaken then

[Lacadaemon]

All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.

Well, when you can invent a machine that can call down manna from heaven so that I don't have to leave my room, we'll have that fixed. But for now, we're all in this together.

I'd get right on it, but I'm busy sitting quietly right now.

[Tmutarakhan]

Because reality has a liberal bias. /thread

[Infinite Harmony]

Re. the comment: "Why people smart enough to be atheists are not smart enough to understand the free market?"

I agree with another poster here that academia has adopted a leftist and atheistic mindset in the last few decades, though it was not always this way. Leftists as a general rule tend to have a horrible understanding of economics (no offense to leftists here, just my personal understanding), and have since at least the days of Karl Marx.


See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ch ... in_science, which shows that many excellent scientists were also very religious,

and http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Physics-An ... 0268034710 (from a Ph. D in physics, an impressive feat.) which discusses the extremely small odds of intelligent life arising from chance alone from a physics standpoint, as well as dealing with other logical inconsistencies in the strictly atheistic views of evolution and intelligence.


While religious people can believe some extremely ignorant things, the idea that atheism is fully supported by science and reason is also incorrect IMO.

[Siorafrica]

It's dogma that atheists are smart; there's no great logic involved in saying "You guys don't have proof,you can't prove a negative,we win." Anyway they tend to be humanist and left wing politics are humanist. Sioraf's 2 cents (which will probably be refunded but you can't help those that refuse the help).

[The Chaos Heart]

Why are most atheists left-wing?

Because most religious people are right-wing. It's where their beliefs fall. Typically. Topic solved.

[Meridiani Planum]

Why people smart enough to be atheists are not smart enough to understand the free market?

Serious answer: smart people disagree. Even uber-smart people disagree. Aristotle disagreed with Plato, and they are both uber-geniuses. It happens.

[Forster Keys]

I used to post in some atheist forum(randi,rationaskepticism,rationalia,freethought etc) and I have left all of them

Why? because the great majority of atheists there are liberals/social democrats(US sense) or far-leftists

Another thing i have noticed is: we(anarcho-capitalists/libertarians) are often treat very badly,often worse than social conservative

Why people smart enough to be atheists are not smart enough to understand the free market?

Mmm... Love that arrogance.