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Jon Stewart vs Fox News

Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:41 am

So, if you watch the Daily Show, you'll see that recently the feud between Jon Stewart and Fox has grown when Jon showed up on an old white guy's show.

In spirit of that, I've made this thread. Who do you view as more trustworthy, Jon Stewart or Fox?

My love of Stewart and my hatred of Fox has never been hidden, so I vote Stewart. The rest of you?
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Postby Living Freedom Land » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:47 am

Honestly, I enjoy Stewart's show and I like some programs on Fox, so I just think this is absolutely hilarious.

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Postby Libertarian Mesa » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:49 am

I admit that Fox is biased and I do not attend Stewart's show, but ... Stewart is a comedian.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:49 am

Libertarian Mesa wrote:I admit that Fox is biased and I do not attend Stewart's show, but ... Stewart is a comedian.

Your point?
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Postby Libertarian Mesa » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:50 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Libertarian Mesa wrote:I admit that Fox is biased and I do not attend Stewart's show, but ... Stewart is a comedian.

Your point?

One goal is to report on the news the other is to make people laugh.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:51 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Libertarian Mesa wrote:I admit that Fox is biased and I do not attend Stewart's show, but ... Stewart is a comedian.

Your point?


Comedians=/=newsman, otherwise Jay Leno. *dum, dum dum!!!!*

That said, I like Stewart, he makes me laugh.
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Postby Terra Agora » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:51 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Libertarian Mesa wrote:I admit that Fox is biased and I do not attend Stewart's show, but ... Stewart is a comedian.

Your point?

Generally comedians are not a source for news...
Buts its not like you have much of a choice.

I like 2 people on Fox but I think Stewart is funny. So im not sure who to vote for. Seems sort of like a false dichotomy.
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Postby The FTR » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:55 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:So, if you watch the Daily Show, you'll see that recently the feud between Jon Stewart and Fox has grown when Jon showed up on an old white guy's show.

In spirit of that, I've made this thread. Who do you view as more trustworthy, Jon Stewart or Fox?

My love of Stewart and my hatred of Fox has never been hidden, so I vote Stewart. The rest of you?

STEWART ALL THE WAY!
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Postby Enadail » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:56 am

On the other hand, Stewart actually reports real news, then makes fun of it. But it doesn't make what he presents any less factual, just presented as a joke.

Being a comedian doesn't make what he says any less true.

Given Fox presents itself as a news station and continually ignores truth/news/facts, and Stewart is meant to be a comedy show yet still manages to inform me, I'd go with Stewart over Fox any day.
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Postby Libertarian Mesa » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:56 am

The FTR wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:So, if you watch the Daily Show, you'll see that recently the feud between Jon Stewart and Fox has grown when Jon showed up on an old white guy's show.

In spirit of that, I've made this thread. Who do you view as more trustworthy, Jon Stewart or Fox?

My love of Stewart and my hatred of Fox has never been hidden, so I vote Stewart. The rest of you?

STEWART ALL THE WAY!
I agree with you.

Why are you so willing to trust a comedian more than a news agency?
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:57 am

Libertarian Mesa wrote:
The FTR wrote:STEWART ALL THE WAY!
I agree with you.

Why are you so willing to trust a comedian more than a news agency?

Enadail wrote:On the other hand, Stewart actually reports real news, then makes fun of it. But it doesn't make what he presents any less factual, just presented as a joke.

Being a comedian doesn't make what he says any less true.

Given Fox presents itself as a news station and continually ignores truth/news/facts, and Stewart is meant to be a comedy show yet still manages to inform me, I'd go with Stewart over Fox any day.
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Postby AustriaHungaryBohemia » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:58 am

Libertarian Mesa wrote:One goal is to report on the news the other is to make people laugh.


Come on, don't be that hard on Fox!
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Postby Living Freedom Land » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:58 am

Libertarian Mesa wrote:
The FTR wrote:STEWART ALL THE WAY!
I agree with you.

Why are you so willing to trust a comedian more than a news agency?

Because it's not Fox News, it's Faux News. I'm so witty.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:58 am

Libertarian Mesa wrote:
The FTR wrote:STEWART ALL THE WAY!
I agree with you.

Why are you so willing to trust a comedian more than a news agency?


Sadly, I agree with the sentiment, primarily because our news has become more entertainment based, rather than actual, efforts to objectively report the news. Then again CNN took Stewart's advice and look how they are doing :roll:
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Postby The FTR » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:59 am

Libertarian Mesa wrote:
The FTR wrote:STEWART ALL THE WAY!
I agree with you.

Why are you so willing to trust a comedian more than a news agency?

Because even the Republicans said he isn't a true comedian.
Jon Stewart uses the excuse: It is just comedy.
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Postby Libertarian Mesa » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:59 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Libertarian Mesa wrote:Why are you so willing to trust a comedian more than a news agency?

Enadail wrote:On the other hand, Stewart actually reports real news, then makes fun of it. But it doesn't make what he presents any less factual, just presented as a joke.

Being a comedian doesn't make what he says any less true.

Given Fox presents itself as a news station and continually ignores truth/news/facts, and Stewart is meant to be a comedy show yet still manages to inform me, I'd go with Stewart over Fox any day.


The thing is, he must do what he must make this news funny. How could he do this?
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:01 am

Libertarian Mesa wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:


The thing is, he must do what he must make this news funny. How could he do this?

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Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

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Postby Enadail » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:01 am

Libertarian Mesa wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:


The thing is, he must do what he must make this news funny. How could he do this?


By making it a joke/funny? Are you asking how comedy works? Are you implying removing facts/lying is the only way to make news funny?
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Postby Neo Art » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:02 am

Two things have gained me utmost respect for Jon Stewart:

1) the opening monologue, done cold, on the first show back after 9/11/01.

2) his time on crossfire where he accused the media of being essentially right wing shills for the bush administration. This alone was valuable, but he was subsequently "attacked" for being "soft" on John Kerry who visited the show, his response was, essentially, that they news anchors on CNN, he was a comedian on Comedy Central, and why in the world was CNN looking to Jon Stewart for tips on journalistic integrity.

He's repeated this a few times whenever the accusations get lobbed at him for being biased. That of course he's biased, but he's a comedian, not a journalist.
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Postby Aids-Land » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:02 am

Who the hell still watches the Daily Show? :blink:
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:02 am

Stewart is purposefully comedic and lampoons the news. Regardless, this is Fox News we're talking about. Stewart by far.
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Postby Libertarian Mesa » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:03 am

Enadail wrote:
Libertarian Mesa wrote:
The thing is, he must do what he must make this news funny. How could he do this?


By making it a joke/funny? Are you asking how comedy works? Are you implying removing facts/lying is the only way to make news funny?

It is one of them.
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Postby The FTR » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:03 am

Aids-Land wrote:Who the hell still watches the Daily Show? :blink:

People who know real comedy.
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Postby Enadail » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:04 am

Libertarian Mesa wrote:
Enadail wrote:
By making it a joke/funny? Are you asking how comedy works? Are you implying removing facts/lying is the only way to make news funny?

It is one of them.


Ok...? I'm not sure where you're going with this...
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Postby Imperium Nova Roma » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:05 am

Jon Stewart couldn't hold a candle to the whole of Fox News.
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