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by -St George » Thu May 19, 2011 3:59 pm
by Draconian Races » Thu May 19, 2011 4:00 pm
Ceannairceach wrote:Ah, so bears won't be blocked? Good to know; those hairy bastards are far from effeminate. This said, are women not effeminate? If yes, then they aren't going to heaven.
by Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 4:01 pm
Draconian Races wrote:Ceannairceach wrote:Ah, so bears won't be blocked? Good to know; those hairy bastards are far from effeminate. This said, are women not effeminate? If yes, then they aren't going to heaven.
Those who abuse themselves with men.
Bears included.
And the effeminate are not feminine There is a difference
by Bitchkitten » Thu May 19, 2011 4:03 pm
by Draconian Races » Thu May 19, 2011 4:04 pm
-St George wrote:Leviticus is a set of guidelines for Jewish priests, and in the original hebrew, "abomination" translates as unclean.
Both 1 Corinthians and Timothy use the Greek word arsenokoitai which Paul made up. Had he meant homosexuality he'd have used the existing Greek word for such.
Sodom and Gommorrah were destroyed because of the craving of the men of Sodom for the angel messengers. Angels, if they exist, are a separate species, thus making it beastiality and not homosexuality. Bibilicle/Jewish/Islamic holy texts also cite the unkindness of the "people of Lot" as a reason for their destruction.
I've already addressed Paul's writings in Romans.
by Draconian Races » Thu May 19, 2011 4:06 pm
by SpectacularSpectacular » Thu May 19, 2011 4:10 pm
Draconian Races wrote:Ceannairceach wrote:Abuse? Straight and gay BDSM fanatics then, not homosexuals.
Define both using a dictionary then.
Actually, straight BDSM may very well be a sin.
And
Effeminate: Having or showing characteristics regarded as typical of a woman; unmanly.
Feminine: The female principle; : A woman; Any one of those words which are the appellations of females, or which have the terminations usually found in such words; as, actress, songstress, abbess, executrix; Of the female sex; biologically female, not male, womanly; Belonging to females; appropriated to ...
Effeminate is being like a woman, feminine is being one.
by Draconian Races » Thu May 19, 2011 4:12 pm
SpectacularSpectacular wrote:So you keep your 'laws of god' and live your life by them. Leave the laws of man to logic, reason, and society.
by SpectacularSpectacular » Thu May 19, 2011 4:15 pm
Draconian Races wrote:SpectacularSpectacular wrote:So you keep your 'laws of god' and live your life by them. Leave the laws of man to logic, reason, and society.
I would, except that it WOULD affect me.
Giving homosexuals 'marriage' or 'adoption', and expecting me to treat them the same way I treat REAL marriages and adoptions, forces me to break my religious rules. So infringes on my rights.
by Militia Alliance » Thu May 19, 2011 4:15 pm
by Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 4:16 pm
Draconian Races wrote:Ceannairceach wrote:Abuse? Straight and gay BDSM fanatics then, not homosexuals.
Define both using a dictionary then.
Actually, straight BDSM may very well be a sin.
And
Effeminate: Having or showing characteristics regarded as typical of a woman; unmanly.
Feminine: The female principle; : A woman; Any one of those words which are the appellations of females, or which have the terminations usually found in such words; as, actress, songstress, abbess, executrix; Of the female sex; biologically female, not male, womanly; Belonging to females; appropriated to ...
Effeminate is being like a woman, feminine is being one.
by Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 4:18 pm
Draconian Races wrote:SpectacularSpectacular wrote:So you keep your 'laws of god' and live your life by them. Leave the laws of man to logic, reason, and society.
I would, except that it WOULD affect me.
Giving homosexuals 'marriage' or 'adoption', and expecting me to treat them the same way I treat REAL marriages and adoptions, forces me to break my religious rules. So infringes on my rights.
by Draconian Races » Thu May 19, 2011 4:19 pm
SpectacularSpectacular wrote:Draconian Races wrote:I would, except that it WOULD affect me.
Giving homosexuals 'marriage' or 'adoption', and expecting me to treat them the same way I treat REAL marriages and adoptions, forces me to break my religious rules. So infringes on my rights.
How so? It makes you feel angry? I'm angry I pay too much for gas and need to register my car every year. Being upset is not an infringement on any of your rights. You don't have to treat them anyway you don't want to...Besides, things being 'real' has never stopped a good Christian from treating it as 'not real'
by Draconian Races » Thu May 19, 2011 4:21 pm
Ceannairceach wrote:Untrue; It would simply require you to treat them equal, which is not against your religion, and it will not force you to recognize homosexual marriages as Christian marriages. You may refuse to acknowledge them as you would a Hindu, Islamic, or etc. marriage. But not discriminate against them.
by SpectacularSpectacular » Thu May 19, 2011 4:21 pm
Ceannairceach wrote:Draconian Races wrote:I would, except that it WOULD affect me.
Giving homosexuals 'marriage' or 'adoption', and expecting me to treat them the same way I treat REAL marriages and adoptions, forces me to break my religious rules. So infringes on my rights.
Untrue; It would simply require you to treat them equal, which is not against your religion, and it will not force you to recognize homosexual marriages as Christian marriages. You may refuse to acknowledge them as you would a Hindu, Islamic, or etc. marriage. But not discriminate against them.
by Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 4:21 pm
Draconian Races wrote:SpectacularSpectacular wrote:
How so? It makes you feel angry? I'm angry I pay too much for gas and need to register my car every year. Being upset is not an infringement on any of your rights. You don't have to treat them anyway you don't want to...Besides, things being 'real' has never stopped a good Christian from treating it as 'not real'
I dont want my children corrupted by seeing or being around homosexuals, male or female.
I do not want to have to run to the bathroom to throw up every time two guys are holding hands
I dont want my daughters told that lesbianism is a 'valid' 'healthy' style of life.
And I would have to treat them different. Because were I to be able to do what I believe is right, I wouldnt allow gays to stay in any hotel I owned, I wouldnt check them out at a check-stand in a store (if I knew they were gay), I would refuse to acknowledge that any child was 'adopted' by them.
Its bad enough to deal with people you dont know are gay. Worse when they dont have to hide in a closet.
by New Asgariath » Thu May 19, 2011 4:22 pm
by Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 4:23 pm
Draconian Races wrote:Ceannairceach wrote:Untrue; It would simply require you to treat them equal, which is not against your religion, and it will not force you to recognize homosexual marriages as Christian marriages. You may refuse to acknowledge them as you would a Hindu, Islamic, or etc. marriage. But not discriminate against them.
But their marriages are NOT equal according to my beliefs. The fact that they can live out of the closet, is being treated equal.
But, I also dont believe marriage and 'loving' who you want, are human rights.
by Draconian Races » Thu May 19, 2011 4:24 pm
New Asgariath wrote:I'm against gay rights.
Here are my problems with gayness:
1) It goes against my religion
2) It goes against the social code
3) It destroys the value of "the family"
4) No one wants to see a bunch of gay people making out. Ever. Anywhere. I don't wanna see it. If they must be gay, then they can be so in their bedrooms. It should not be legal. In fact, some people have trouble when straight people make out. So no gay!
5) People might as well start making laws so that you can marry your cat. Why not? If you're gonna be stupid enough to marry the same sex, why not marry a different species? Soon we're going to be petitioning for bestial gay marriage. Gay cat lovers. This is what America is being reduced to.
6) It's just gay!
by SpectacularSpectacular » Thu May 19, 2011 4:25 pm
Draconian Races wrote:SpectacularSpectacular wrote:
How so? It makes you feel angry? I'm angry I pay too much for gas and need to register my car every year. Being upset is not an infringement on any of your rights. You don't have to treat them anyway you don't want to...Besides, things being 'real' has never stopped a good Christian from treating it as 'not real'
I dont want my children corrupted by seeing or being around homosexuals, male or female.
I do not want to have to run to the bathroom to throw up every time two guys are holding hands
I dont want my daughters told that lesbianism is a 'valid' 'healthy' style of life.
And I would have to treat them different. Because were I to be able to do what I believe is right, I wouldnt allow gays to stay in any hotel I owned, I wouldnt check them out at a check-stand in a store (if I knew they were gay), I would refuse to acknowledge that any child was 'adopted' by them.
Its bad enough to deal with people you dont know are gay. Worse when they dont have to hide in a closet.
by Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 4:25 pm
New Asgariath wrote:I'm against gay rights.
Here are my problems with gayness:
1) It goes against my religion
2) It goes against the social code
3) It destroys the value of "the family"
4) No one wants to see a bunch of gay people making out. Ever. Anywhere. I don't wanna see it. If they must be gay, then they can be so in their bedrooms. It should not be legal. In fact, some people have trouble when straight people make out. So no gay!
5) People might as well start making laws so that you can marry your cat. Why not? If you're gonna be stupid enough to marry the same sex, why not marry a different species? Soon we're going to be petitioning for bestial gay marriage. Gay cat lovers. This is what America is being reduced to.
6) It's just gay!
by Ceannairceach » Thu May 19, 2011 4:25 pm
Draconian Races wrote:New Asgariath wrote:I'm against gay rights.
Here are my problems with gayness:
1) It goes against my religion
2) It goes against the social code
3) It destroys the value of "the family"
4) No one wants to see a bunch of gay people making out. Ever. Anywhere. I don't wanna see it. If they must be gay, then they can be so in their bedrooms. It should not be legal. In fact, some people have trouble when straight people make out. So no gay!
5) People might as well start making laws so that you can marry your cat. Why not? If you're gonna be stupid enough to marry the same sex, why not marry a different species? Soon we're going to be petitioning for bestial gay marriage. Gay cat lovers. This is what America is being reduced to.
6) It's just gay!
You just summarized my entire view.
by Draconian Races » Thu May 19, 2011 4:25 pm
Ceannairceach wrote:Draconian Races wrote:
But their marriages are NOT equal according to my beliefs. The fact that they can live out of the closet, is being treated equal.
But, I also dont believe marriage and 'loving' who you want, are human rights.
They are, by the current powers that be. Marriage is not to be discriminated against. And if they aren't allowed to marry, then neither are you. Either everyone has rights, or no one has them; simple as that.
by Niur » Thu May 19, 2011 4:25 pm
by Nightkill the Emperor » Thu May 19, 2011 4:28 pm
New Asgariath wrote:I'm against gay rights.
Here are my problems with gayness:
1) It goes against my religion
2) It goes against the social code
3) It destroys the value of "the family"
4) No one wants to see a bunch of gay people making out. Ever. Anywhere. I don't wanna see it. If they must be gay, then they can be so in their bedrooms. It should not be legal. In fact, some people have trouble when straight people make out. So no gay!
5) People might as well start making laws so that you can marry your cat. Why not? If you're gonna be stupid enough to marry the same sex, why not marry a different species? Soon we're going to be petitioning for bestial gay marriage. Gay cat lovers. This is what America is being reduced to.
6) It's just gay!
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".
Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.
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