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by Dusk_Kittens » Thu May 19, 2011 7:36 am
by Ecans » Thu May 19, 2011 7:36 am
by Kakushi Densetsu » Thu May 19, 2011 7:44 am
by Tekania » Thu May 19, 2011 8:16 am
Dusk_Kittens wrote:Who would it hurt if the LGBT crowd were given rights to marry any other consenting adult(s), to adopt children, to be free of discrimination in housing and employment (etc), to be protected from hate crimes?
Nobody?
Oh, wait. The religious Reich would get their panties in a bunch and feel all butthurt because they've been told to mind their own business and stop trying to shove their idiocy down everyone else's throats, and the greedy insurance companies would have to pay out benefits to spouses, cover the expenses of male-to-female and female-to-male transition (Transsexuality, it should be pointed out, is considerably more than "merely" a psychological or cosmetic matter, but as long as the insurance companies can keep appealing to government-sanctioned discrimination, they don't have to admit this, and can continue to pretend that it's all psychological and cosmetic, and therefore can refuse to cover the costs).
So, yeah, who that MATTERS would it hurt? Nobody? Right, nobody.
So give human rights to humans, regardless of their sexual orientation and/or gender identity.
by New Rogernomics » Thu May 19, 2011 8:25 am
Tekania wrote:It's a violation of the Religious Right's fundamental right to dictate religious belief upon others, their fundamental right to use the power of civil law to enforce their views upon religious discipline upon the masses, and their fundamental right to indoctrinate everyone else's children into the Religious Right's religious viewpoints. In short, as far as the Religious Right is concerned the only people who have rights, are those of the Religious Right.
by Flameswroth » Thu May 19, 2011 8:28 am
Tekania wrote:It's a violation of the Religious Right's fundamental right to dictate religious belief upon others, their fundamental right to use the power of civil law to enforce their views upon religious discipline upon the masses, and their fundamental right to indoctrinate everyone else's children into the Religious Right's religious viewpoints. In short, as far as the Religious Right is concerned the only people who have rights, are those of the Religious Right.
Czardas wrote:Why should we bail out climate change with billions of dollars, when lesbians are starving in the streets because they can't afford an abortion?
Reagan Clone wrote:What you are proposing is glorifying God by loving, respecting, or at least tolerating, his other creations.
That is the gayest fucking shit I've ever heard, and I had Barry Manilow perform at the White House in '82.
by EnragedMaldivians » Thu May 19, 2011 9:27 am
by Draconian Races » Thu May 19, 2011 10:50 am
-St George wrote:The Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality.
God doesn't approve or disapprove.
by SpectacularSpectacular » Thu May 19, 2011 10:52 am
by EnragedMaldivians » Thu May 19, 2011 10:52 am
by Draconian Races » Thu May 19, 2011 10:54 am
by Samuraikoku » Thu May 19, 2011 10:54 am
Nazi Flower Power wrote:Homosexual people have a right to be treated with the same common decency that everyone has a right to. Gay marriage should be legal because it is a step toward a less sexist way of thinking.
by SpectacularSpectacular » Thu May 19, 2011 10:55 am
Draconian Races wrote:EnragedMaldivians wrote:
The Bible - possible. I know no Hebrew or Aramaic.
As for the underlined - prove it.
Well seeing as He listed it as a death penalty crime in the OT...
and, in the face of mot of the Greek and Roman empires, said in the NT it was sinful.. that those who practice homosexuality would not enter His Kingdom...
Id say its pretty easy to prove
by EnragedMaldivians » Thu May 19, 2011 11:00 am
Draconian Races wrote:EnragedMaldivians wrote:
The Bible - possible. I know no Hebrew or Aramaic.
As for the underlined - prove it.
Well seeing as He listed it as a death penalty crime in the OT...
and, in the face of mot of the Greek and Roman empires, said in the NT it was sinful.. that those who practice homosexuality would not enter His Kingdom...
Id say its pretty easy to prove
by Dusk_Kittens » Thu May 19, 2011 11:03 am
Draconian Races wrote:-St George wrote:The Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality.
God doesn't approve or disapprove.
Incorrect. It does condemn it, and He doesnt approve.
by Draconian Races » Thu May 19, 2011 11:04 am
EnragedMaldivians wrote:Draconian Races wrote:
Well seeing as He listed it as a death penalty crime in the OT...
and, in the face of mot of the Greek and Roman empires, said in the NT it was sinful.. that those who practice homosexuality would not enter His Kingdom...
Id say its pretty easy to prove
I'll assume that a God exists for the purposes of this discussion.
I was raised Muslim. Why should I think beleive that the Bibles conception of God is the correct one?
Seeing as that I am an atheist now, what is the criteria for beleiving in any religions conceptions of God. The literature only asserts that what it says is true - it does not prove it.
So I ask you again - do you have any proof that God dissaproves of homosexuality?
by EnragedMaldivians » Thu May 19, 2011 11:09 am
Draconian Races wrote:EnragedMaldivians wrote:
I'll assume that a God exists for the purposes of this discussion.
I was raised Muslim. Why should I think beleive that the Bibles conception of God is the correct one?
Seeing as that I am an atheist now, what is the criteria for beleiving in any religions conceptions of God. The literature only asserts that what it says is true - it does not prove it.
So I ask you again - do you have any proof that God dissaproves of homosexuality?
Well if you are atheist, then the question is pointless, as no matter what I say, you will try to disprove it with "God does not exist"
And as I believe the only True God is the one of the Bible... yes, I can prove it via that.
by Dusk_Kittens » Thu May 19, 2011 11:11 am
Draconian Races wrote:And as I believe the only True God is the one of the Bible... yes, I can prove it via that.
by Draconian Races » Thu May 19, 2011 11:15 am
EnragedMaldivians wrote:Draconian Races wrote:
Well if you are atheist, then the question is pointless, as no matter what I say, you will try to disprove it with "God does not exist"
And as I believe the only True God is the one of the Bible... yes, I can prove it via that.
But I have already said that for the purposes of this discussion - that God exists. Where is the proof that the God of the bible is the correct one?
by SpectacularSpectacular » Thu May 19, 2011 11:16 am
Draconian Races wrote:EnragedMaldivians wrote:
I'll assume that a God exists for the purposes of this discussion.
I was raised Muslim. Why should I think beleive that the Bibles conception of God is the correct one?
Seeing as that I am an atheist now, what is the criteria for beleiving in any religions conceptions of God. The literature only asserts that what it says is true - it does not prove it.
So I ask you again - do you have any proof that God dissaproves of homosexuality?
Well if you are atheist, then the question is pointless, as no matter what I say, you will try to disprove it with "God does not exist"
And as I believe the only True God is the one of the Bible... yes, I can prove it via that.
by EnragedMaldivians » Thu May 19, 2011 11:17 am
by Tekania » Thu May 19, 2011 11:19 am
by EnragedMaldivians » Thu May 19, 2011 11:20 am
by Dusk_Kittens » Thu May 19, 2011 11:22 am
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